***Official*** NHL Lockout news thread ***Confirmed***

Aquaman

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NHLPA's Goodenow releases statement

TSN.ca Staff
9/15/2004

TORONTO - NHLPA Executive Director, Bob Goodenow released a statement following NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman's press conference:

"This is a disappointing day for NHL Players and fans. Gary Bettman's announcement that he and the owners have locked out the Players and are shutting down the game of hockey is simply the wrong way to address the issues we are facing. The Players have been prepared to compromise for a very long time and have proposed frameworks that should already have produced a deal that is fair for all. Unfortunately, the League has rejected all opportunities for compromise, while stubbornly insisting that Gary Bettman has the single solution to every problem - a salary cap.

An honest partnership can never be achieved under the League's 'my way or the highway' approach. Partnerships are built on respect, trust and willingness to compromise. Partnerships are not built through confrontation. Nonetheless, Gary and the Owners have chosen, through a lockout, to try to force Players to accept a system they know Players would never agree to.

The Players' four-point proposal is the best opportunity to reach a fair agreement. The Owners' negotiating team has failed to offer anything that even resembles a compromise, while we have offered real dollars and real solutions. Each of our four points represent a significant and meaningful concession by the Players:

1. The Players are prepared to accept an immediate, five percent wage rollback on the full term of all existing contracts which would generate more than $100 million in savings for the Owners. This rollback would be applied to a marketplace that has already experienced a decline as Owners have reset player values in light of their current revenues.

2. The Players are prepared to accept changes to the Entry Level System that would produce annual savings of $60 million.

3. The Players are prepared to accept a tax on those teams whose payrolls exceed an agreed-upon level. The tax would restrain club spending on Player compensation and raise approximately $35 million annually for redistribution to teams that need money.

4. The Players are prepared to modify their revenue-sharing plan in order to distribute money from high-revenue clubs to low-revenue clubs in the amounts suggested by the league. Under this plan, low-revenue clubs would receive $80 million to $100 million per year.

The NHL continues to make selective and distorted references to team finances. We have seen some of the NHL's data but only after signing confidentiality agreements that prevent us from offering specific comments. As the NHL continues to claim its financial survival is at stake, it should open its books and let everyone see the teams claiming these losses. We have publicly asked the NHL to do so but they steadfastly refuse to expose the information to the light of day.

The Players remain prepared to negotiate a fair agreement with the Owners. But we need a negotiating partner who understands that agreements are the products of compromise. We do not have such a negotiating partner now."

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Excerpts from Bettman's speech

Canadian Press
9/15/2004

TORONTO (CP) - Excerpts from NHL commissioner Gary Bettman's speech Wednesday at a news conference in New York:

``For the past several years, as flaws in the current economic system have become increasingly difficult to overcome, we at the National Hockey League have done everything possible to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement that works, day-in and day-out, to serve the best interests of all involved.

Sadly, those efforts have not achieved their objective. And as the league stands at the threshold of the conclusion of the current CBA, which occurs at midnight tonight, it is my sombre duty to report that at today's meeting, the board of governors unanimously re-confirmed that NHL teams will not play at the expiration of the CBA until we have a new system which fixes the economic problems facing our game.

This action is not taken lightly - or eagerly - and when the union wants to stop the posturing and acknowledges that the problems are as real as our governors' resolve to fix them, we will be here, ready to make a fair and meaningful agreement that will usher in a new era for our game. . . .

Twenty of our clubs are losing money. There have been too many bankruptcies and too many other close calls. I have had too many owners tell me they will get out of this game if the economics are not repaired . . .

It is a fact - a fact - that during this CBA, a team in the top one-third in salaries has been three times more likely to make the playoffs than a team in the bottom third. That is a status quo with which we simply cannot continue to live. Our game and our fans deserve better . . .

There is no shortcut or quick fix. We need an enforceable, defined relationship between revenues and expenses. We need a system that will eliminate the disparities in payrolls, so that a team's ability to compete depends on its team-building skills, not on its ability to pay.

We believe that such a business model can and must be crafted in a partnership that creates shared rewards . . .

In July, we offered the union six different, creative, ground-breaking methods by which those partnership objectives could be attained.

Included in those frameworks was a willingness for the players to receive more than 50 per cent of every dollar of revenues our business generates. It may be less than the players are getting now, but we won't apologize for an offer that is more than fair.

We offered the union systems that would continue to pay multi-million dollar salaries to our star players. We will not apologize for contracts which could still be in excess of $6 million US per year, even if some players would make less than they are now getting.

We offered the union systems that would provide an average player salary of $1.3 million US per season. An average salary of $1.3 million may be less than the players are getting now, but we will not apologize for an average player salary of $1.3 million per season.

That said, we do apologize to our millions of fans and the thousands of people whose livelihoods depend on our game. It is truly unfortunate that we have to go through this. I assure you that no one is more unhappy about this situation than I am.

My pledge, at this difficult moment, is that we will correct this untenable situation the right way - not with Band-Aids and half-measures, but in a way that will ensure the health and excitement of our game for years to come. This game's future depends upon getting the right economic system. In the absence of such a system, there is no future for our game. As difficult as today is, the reality is, we had no choice in the face of the union's continued refusal to address economic problems that are clear to everyone but them . . .

There is a partnership deal to be made. We encourage the leadership of the players' union to join us in partnership . . .

We owe it to hockey's fans to achieve an economic system that will result in affordable ticket prices and stable, competitive franchises. The very future of our game is at stake, and the NHL's owners are united, as never before - determined to do everything humanly possible to bring hockey's economic system into the 21st century. We have no other choice.''

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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NHL owners vote to lock out players

Canadian Press
9/15/2004

The puck stops here.

The NHL board of governors, at a meeting in New York, unanimously voted Wednesday to ``not play again until there is a new economic system.''

With the current collective bargaining agreement expiring at midnight Wednesday, the decision means the NHL season is officially on ice.

A lockout has begun.

``Twenty of our clubs are losing money,'' commissioner Gary Bettman said at a New York news conference. ``There have been too many bankruptcies and too many other close calls. I have had too many owners tell me they will get out of this game if the economics are not repaired.''

``This game's future depends upon getting the right economic system,'' he added. ``In the absence of such a system, there is no future for our game.''

Bettman delivered a strong address, repeatedly saying the union was ``in denial.''

The NHL Players' Association responded by calling it ``a disappointing day'' for players and fans.

``An honest partnership can never be achieved under the league's `my way or the highway' approach,'' NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow said in a statement. ``Partnerships are built on respect, trust and willingness to compromise. Partnerships are not built through confrontation.

``Nonetheless, Gary and the owners have chosen, through a lockout, to try to force players to accept a system they know players would never agree to.''

Bettman said the league had ``done everything possible to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement that works . . .

``Sadly, those efforts have not achieved their objective. And as the league stands at the threshold of the conclusion of the current CBA, which occurs at midnight tonight, it is my sombre duty to report that at today's meeting, the board of governors unanimously re-confirmed that NHL teams will not play at the expiration of the CBA until we have a new system which fixes the economic problems facing our game.''

The optimistic prediction is for an end to the labour impasse in January, seen as the cutoff point for an NHL season to be salvaged - just like 9 years ago during the last lockout.

Some believe the whole 2004-05 season could be cancelled. That means the Stanley Cup not being awarded for the first time since 1919 - when an influenza epidemic stopped the Montreal-Seattle final.

The NHL and Players' Association last met last Thursday in Toronto. The session lasted just four hours.

Bettman apologized ``to our millions of fans and the thousands of people whose livelihoods depend on our game.''

``It is truly unfortunate that we have to go through this. I assure you that no one is more unhappy about this situation than I am.''

No meetings between the two sides have been scheduled for the foreseeable future.

News of the lockout comes just hours after Canadians celebrated a victory over Finland in the World Cup of Hockey. It could be the last top-flight hockey to savour for a while.

Both sides have stockpiled money for this labour battle. The league says its owners will actually lose less money with the players out than if the season went ahead as scheduled.

Some players will opt to stay at home. Others will pack up and play in Europe or on several domestic stopgap circuits established in the event of a work stoppage.

At the heart of the dispute is the league's demand for a salary cap, although it prefers to talk of a system that guarantees ``cost certainty.''

``We need an enforceable, defined relationship between revenues and expenses,'' Bettman said.

The league says it lost $273 million US in 2002-03 and $224 million last season, and needs a framework that guarantees player costs won't eat up more than 50 per cent of league revenues.

The NHL also says player costs consumed 75 per cent of league revenues last season.

The current collective bargaining agreement, twice renewed over 10 years, has seen player salaries soar - from an average of $733,000 in 1994-95 to $1.83 million in 2003-04.

Bettman said during the current CBA a team in the top one-third in salaries has been three times more likely to make the playoffs than a team in the bottom third.

``That is a status quo with which we simply cannot continue to live. Our game and our fans deserve better.''

``We need a system that will eliminate the disparities in payrolls, so that a team's ability to compete depends on its team-building skills, not on its ability to pay,'' he added.

The NHLPA, however, has resisted any attempt at capping salaries.

Instead Goodenow, senior director Ted Saskin and the union have offered a package that includes a luxury tax, revenue sharing, five per cent rollback on current player contracts and changes to entry-level contracts - all of which the union says will save owners up to $150 million next season.

The league has rejected that approach, saying it needs more to get its house in order.

``The present system doesn't work for us,'' Carolina president Jim Rutherford said in New York.

As baseball has learned to its cost, a work stoppage can lead to a nasty fan hangover. That could be costly for hockey, a sport that has struggled to find - or keep - a foothold in some markets.

In Chicago, where the once mighty Blackhawks stumble near the bottom of the standings these days, the Chicago Tribune played the NHL labour story on page 8 of the sports section. The lead item was the Cubs' victory over Pirates.

The Chicago Sun-Times played the NHL story 15 pages into the sports section. Top billing was a full-page teaser to a column on the Athletics-Rangers dustup.

The Dallas Morning News also led with the baseball brawl. There was no mention of the NHL labour situation.

The Miami Herald and the South Florida Sun-Sentinel led Wednesday with the Marlins win in Chicago over the Expos. The Herald played the lockout on the front below the fold while the Sun-Sentinel had it on page 9.

Papers in St. Louis, Columbus and Atlanta had the story on the front of their sports sections.

So did the Tennessean in Nashville, although top spot on the sports front went to the NFL Titans signing kicker Gary Anderson.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

BCYL

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This is really bad news for hockey... I wonder how many fans they will lose because of this...
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: BCYL
This is really bad news for hockey... I wonder how many fans they will lose because of this...

you have to have had fans, to lose fans. Most of the hockey fans out there right now are diehard enough that this won't cause them to turn their backs. I won't. I'm pissed about missing this season though.
 

SALvation

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Thanks Mr. Bettman for running the league into the ground. Here's hoping you choke on your dinner tonight.
 

WobbleWobble

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Thanks Linden for having the NHLPA drive the NHL to the ground.

I'm kidding

But I'm still on the owner's side and think there should be a salary cap.
 

Insane3D

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I knew it was coming. Thank goodness the AHL is still playing and I have my season tickets on the way. I sort of side with the league on this. They are partially to blame for expanding the league into so many non-hockey markets (Nashville?!?!), but salaries are waaaay out of control IMO. I mean when some average hockey player comes up from the AHL and makes the league average of a million +, it crazy. Also, the Canadian markets get's whacked because they pay players salaries in USD, but get their revenue in CND. The exchange rate alone kills them.

Oh well...hopefully things will resolve soon.

 

Balt

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Guess I'll have to go to a couple ECHL games this season to get my hockey fix.
 

TreyRandom

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
I knew it was coming. Thank goodness the AHL is still playing and I have my season tickets on the way. I sort of side with the league on this. They are partially to blame for expanding the league into so many non-hockey markets (Nashville?!?!), but salaries are waaaay out of control IMO. I mean when some average hockey player comes up from the AHL and makes the league average of a million +, it crazy. Also, the Canadian markets get's whacked because they pay players salaries in USD, but get their revenue in CND. The exchange rate alone kills them.

Oh well...hopefully things will resolve soon.



Nashville loves and supports their hockey team. So what's the big deal? Saying that Nashville is a "non-hockey market" is the kind of nonsense that keeps interest levels low. Without a team in Nashville, I could care less about watching hockey. With a team in Nashville, I've attended several games, and either watch or listen to the rest of the games on TV and radio.

Keep in mind that several of the teams that are losing money are from traditional hockey markets. "Non-hockey markets" have little to nothing to do with the larger problem.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: Insane3DThey are partially to blame for expanding the league into so many non-hockey markets (Nashville?!?!).
Well, that's EXACTLLY what they said about Dallas...

I agree on most your points though. It's just nothing venture, nothing gained, yeah they have made some good and bad moves.

Lockout=
 

Klixxer

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Actually, for us Europeans this is great news as most of our stars are returning home to play for their former teams.

Sorry guys but you won't get me to boo about THAT.
 
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