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rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: Aquaman
Originally posted by: rh71
^ that desperate I am

I'll make sure to put cloutiers head on ovechkin

cheers,
Aquaman
Man I remember when Cloutier was a Ranger. I had some good laughs then.
 

Aquaman

Lifer
Dec 17, 1999
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NHL, NHLPA meet; to resume Thursday

Canadian Press
5/25/2005 8:03:13 PM

CHICAGO (CP) - The NHL and NHL Players' Association met for 6 1/2 hours without their respective leaders Wednesday.

The two sides were back to the smaller-group format of last Tuesday and Wednesday, again discussing financial and accounting issues affecting the league's 30 teams.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow also skipped out on the small-group sessions last week before joining the larger group for 22 hours of talks over Thursday and Friday, meetings that for the first time gave many hope that the lockout could end in the next month.

Labour talks will resume Thursday morning in Chicago. The two sides have met four straight weeks and 14 times overall since Bettman announced the cancellation of the season Feb. 15. They plan to meet every week until a collective bargaining agreement is finally agreed upon.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

Lifer
Dec 17, 1999
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NHL, NHLPA wrap up talks; more planned

Canadian Press
5/26/2005 1:14:24 PM

CHICAGO (CP) - Two days of NHL talks wrapped up Thursday with both the league and the players' association saying there is still a lot of work ahead.

The two sides spent the two days discussing financial and accounting issues affecting the league's 30 teams.

"We just completed two days of meetings focused on revenue measurement and reporting issues," NHLPA senior director Ted Saskin said in a statement. "There is a lot more information to be exchanged between the parties and I expect Bob (Goodenow) and Gary (Bettman) will be scheduling further meetings shortly."

Bill Daly, NHL executive vice-president and chief legal officer, said in a statement the two sides will meet again next week.

"We continued to make progress this week, but we still have a ways to go," said Daly.

The two sides have met four straight weeks and 15 times overall since Bettman announced the cancellation of the season Feb. 15. They plan to meet every week until a collective bargaining agreement is finally agreed upon.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

Lifer
Dec 17, 1999
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ESPN declines option on NHL TV rights

TSN.ca Staff
5/27/2005 6:24:41 PM

The National Hockey League's pocket book has taken another hit.

Sources tell TSN that American cable sports giant ESPN will decline their option to retain their NHL broadcast rights for next season. The option to retain their national cable rights was for $60 million US.

ESPN has declined to comment on the matter, but the decision is expected to be officially announced next week.

The league is now free to negotiate with any other US cable network, including ESPN who may try to negotiate a new deal at a lesser cost.

The NHL announced its cable agreement with ESPN last May, worth half the $120 million US a season it made under the five-year, $600-million deal that expired with ABC/ESPN after the 2004 Stanley Cup Final. Both sides reached a one-year agreement with options for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons in May 2004.

While ESPN and ESPN2 covered a plethora of games during its previous contract, the new deal called for ESPN2 to air just 40 regular-season contests. The cable sports network also held exclusive rights to the conference finals and the first two games of the Stanley Cup Final.

The league also signed a two-year deal with NBC last year, which had the same type of revenue-sharing agreement the network has with the Arena Football League. Under the agreement, NBC would take the first portion of income from advertising to cover production expenses, while the NHL takes the next portion and the two split additional revenue equally.

The regular-season ratings on ABC have declined 21 per cent since the 2001-02 season while last year's Stanley Cup final ratings were down 21 per cent from 1999-2000.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

TheNinja

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Jan 22, 2003
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I'll post this in the "official" hockey thread:

The players are going to be seriously kicking themselves for not taking that last minute deal this past year that had a cap of around $42million. They won't get anything CLOSE to that now, and with ESPN dropping out the pie gets smaller and smaller.....man were they stupid, they'll be lucky to get a cap of $32million now.
 

Aquaman

Lifer
Dec 17, 1999
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Originally posted by: TheNinja
I'll post this in the "official" hockey thread:

The players are going to be seriously kicking themselves for not taking that last minute deal this past year that had a cap of around $42million. They won't get anything CLOSE to that now, and with ESPN dropping out the pie gets smaller and smaller.....man were they stupid, they'll be lucky to get a cap of $32million now.

Damn ninjas......... can't get rid of them......... like cocharoaches

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

Lifer
Dec 17, 1999
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NHL, NHLPA to meet Thursday

Canadian Press
5/29/2005 9:00:47 PM

TORONTO (CP) - Talks will resume Thursday in Toronto between the NHL and the NHL Players' Association.

The sides last met in New York last Thursday in the ongoing process to come to a collective bargaining agreement and end the lockout that wiped out the 2004-2005 season.

Last week the groups spend two days discussing financial and accounting issues affecting the league's 30 teams.

The NHL and NHLPA have met four straight weeks and 15 times overall since Bettman announced the cancellation of the season Feb. 15. They plan to meet every week until a collective bargaining agreement is finally agreed upon.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

MrCodeDude

Lifer
Jun 23, 2001
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I miss hockey.

I was originally against having "replacement players," but at this point, I'll take anything. I can't stand watching all these basketball and baseball games
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2005/05/31/1064644.html
SLAM: Lockout Will End Soon

Then so long Bettman, Goodenow!
By MIKE ULMER -- Toronto Sun

Toronto Sun columnist Mike Ulmer says once the NHL and the players have
an agreement in place to end the lockout, both Gary Bettman and Bob
Goodenow will be history among their respective organizations. (Photo
illustration)

There will be NHL hockey in the fall. The end game has in fact started
between the NHL and the players' association.

When league vice-president Bill Daly told reporters he saw a negotiated
settlement coming soon, he started the countdown to a deal that should
be wrapped up in the next month.

There is, in fact, little left for the players but to try to save face.

Adamant since the beginning that ownership was cooking the books, the
PA and the league have been working on a joint review. It's the kind of
rudimentary work that should have been done a year ago and it will
reveal what every party but the NHLPA has long accepted -- that a few
wealthy clubs, including the Maple Leafs, Philadelphia Flyers and New
York Rangers -- make good money. Another handful come close.

Two-thirds of the league, meanwhile, is in the red.

The union, having been denied $1 billion US in salaries, is badly
fractured. A splinter group that includes Chris Pronger, Jeremy Roenick
and others nearly swung an end-run around PA head Bob Goodenow before
the season was cancelled.

Throughout the process, players, hundreds of them, have been in contact
with the league and with their individual teams. The message flowing
from north to south: "Enough already, make a deal!"

Ownership hasn't broken the players' union. For one thing, hockey
players are too honourable to sell each other out. For another, the
laws of the land, specifically those regarding the use of replacement
workers, make destroying a union problematic.

EXHAUSTED

But the players are exhausted and no further ahead than when the
previous collective bargaining agreement expired in September.

The concept of an all-or-nothing opposition to the salary cap was a
suicidal notion but it was definitive enough. When the players'
association conceded the necessity of a cap just before the talks
collapsed, the players were left without a platform to contest.

A new, far more moneyed ownership group -- Tom Golisano in Buffalo and
Eugene Melnyk in Ottawa come to mind -- were able to outwait the
players. The lockout was planned, budgeted for and ruthlessly executed.
Except for rumblings from Leafs governor Larry Tanenbaum over the
league's inability to make a deal, ownership has maintained a steadfast
public face.

Some good will come from all of this.

The players will have succeeded in nudging the league toward more
revenue sharing, which, in a league peopled with six Canadian teams and
a bunch in the hockey hinterland, is an absolute necessity.

In the end, NHL players will be able to make a superb living with a
hand in increased revenues should the game manage to reinvent itself.

Deep dissatisfaction among the paying public about not just the
cancellation, but also the quality of the game, has humbled both sides.
There will be more impetus to reshape the game, to free up the play
and, in the wake of the Todd Bertuzzi attack, to police the game's
vigilante culture.

The most noticeable change in the game should include who runs it.

The game will need to move on and jettison both Goodenow and Bettman,
the two architects of the labour apocalypse.

Already, there is talk of Goodenow's imminent departure. Good form will
prevent him from leaving before a new deal is signed, but the schism
inside the union between Goodenow and its rank-and-file millionaires
only can result in Goodenow being gone within the year.

Bizarrely, Goodenow will be most responsible for keeping Bettman in
office. Ownership won't cashier Bettman until Goodenow is gone, but
once he is, they too will reach for a new face. Bettman won't be
renewed, not because of this CBA, but because of the past one, and the
amount of earth that had to be scorched to fix it.

And so the authors of the disaster will be gone, each having fulfilled
their destiny.

For Gary Bettman, that mission was the savage repudiation of a players'
union that had convinced itself it was the game. For Bob Goodenow, it
was to blindly lead his union into the slaughter.
w00t.
 

SSP

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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In his honour:

CBA talks: NHLers may play in Turin
Canadian Press
6/13/2005 10:02:17 AM

TORONTO (CP) - The NHL and NHL Players' Association continued to plug away at a new deal with another small group session Monday, making slow and steady progress towards finally ending the ninth-month lockout.

While the economic framework is largely in place - based on a salary cap - there remains enough work to drag this out another two weeks or so, according to sources.

The basic structure of the salary cap - linked league-wide to revenues with an upper and lower limit on team-by-team payrolls - is mostly ironed out. The two sides have made headway in the areas of free agency, qualifying offers, salary arbitration, entry-level contracts, drug testing, rule changes and Olympic participation.

On the Olympic issue, the union appears to have scored a victory, with the league leaning towards participation in the Turin Games next February, although that is not signed, sealed and delivered just yet.

The two sides are narrowing in on a collective bargaining agreement that the league believes will bring competitive balance, narrowing the gap between the have and have-nots.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=127821&hubName=nhl

Things are looking good so far.
 

venk

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Dec 10, 2000
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Too little too late, the sport is as good as dead. Even if it comes back next season it will be considerd a league on the same level as Arena Football and Bowling in the US. Pretty soon, owners outside of a few strong markets (Toronto, Detroit, NY, Philly, Boston, and maybe Montreal) will be hard pressed to even meet a 30 million dollar salary cap.
 

Mayfriday0529

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Sep 15, 2003
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So i'm reading that negotiations are going well and within the next week to a month maybe finally we will see something happening. But i also see the even when they return there will be some rule changes to make the game faster and i see that ESPN also didnt pick up any NHL games, so no ABC games.

You will be only be able to watch if your local cable provider offers your local team.

NBC will pick up 7 games and some Stanley cup finals.

I don't think the sport is dead, its not as big as basketball and football and baseball but it still has more fans that minor leagues and Arena Football.

Anyone saying its dead is not a real fan but just a follower.
 

Johnlee

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Oct 10, 1999
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Only job I ever got laid off for was my part-time NHL gig.

I'm sure it will be back.
 

Aquaman

Lifer
Dec 17, 1999
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NHL holding research, development camp

Canadian Press
5/30/2005 12:59:26 PM

TORONTO (CP) - There are going to be some strange goings on at a small rink
near the airport here next week, and the NHL is inviting its general
managers and coaches to take it all in.

Goalies will be trying to stop pucks while wearing equipment smaller than
they usually wear, and they'll be standing at times in front of over-sized
nets. Long passes that would normally be offside will be allowed in some of
the drills.

The league is calling it a research and development camp, and it has
recruited overage juniors who are free agents plus a handful of college
skaters for tests and scrimmages over three days.

The camp begins Monday, which as coincidence would have it is the first
anniversary of the last NHL game, Tampa Bay's 2-1 win over Calgary in Game 7
of the 2004 Stanley Cup final.

There has been plenty of talk during the lockout, which wiped out the entire
2004-2005 season, about opening up the game to more offence whenever play
resumes under a new collective bargaining agreement, and now it's time to
test on ice the various suggestions.

"We'll be focusing on rules changes that have been brought forth over the
last year and a half," says Colin Campbell, the league's executive
vice-president and director of hockey operations. "We understand certain
changes have to be made but we don't want knee-jerk solutions.

"We don't think the game is as bad on the ice as some people make it out to
be. That's a side effect of our problems off the ice. But we do understand
some changes have to be made."

Talks towards a CBA resume Wednesday and Thursday in Toronto.

While the number crunchers prepare to continue that seemingly neverending
process, hockey operations staffers Mike Murphy and E. J. McGuire are
concentrating on the research and development camp.

"This is all about opening our minds," says McGuire.

There will be two scrimmages each day, 4-on-4 and 3-on-3 drills, and
shootouts.

NHL referees and linesmen, some of whom have had to seek secondary
employment during the lockout, will be used.

One of the more intriguing experiments next week will be an "open game
concept" put forth by Harry Sinden, president of the Boston Bruins. It
includes allowing passes to be made from the top of defensive zone circles
to the other end of the rink.

The two goalies who will participate are 20-year-olds Brad Topping of
Strathroy, Ont., who played for the OHL's Windsor Spitfires this past
season, and Eric Tobia of Cloyne, Ont., who was with the OHL's Belleville
Bulls.

All activity on the ice will be filmed so the experiments can be further
analysed. NHL GMs will then discuss possible rules changes, which would need
to be tested in the pre-season.

Meanwhile, the first European teens have begun arriving for the beehive of
activity that is the annual physical testing of NHL draft-eligible players.
York University professor Dr. Norm Gledhill and his crew will oversee
testing Friday and Saturday at an airport-district hotel.

More than 100 prospects, three-quarters of them North Americans, are
expected for the off-ice assessments and for interviews with NHL teams
considering picking them.

The 2005 entry draft, which was scheduled to be held in Ottawa next month,
was long ago postponed, but Central Scouting has been trying to operate as
usual.

"Just because no draft is scheduled doesn't mean that one won't be
scheduled," said McGuire.
Cheers,
Aquaman
 
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