***Official*** NV40 Benches (Updated as they go live) ANANDTECH Review Added

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
-ha ha
-told you so
-neener neener neener
-so on

good thing i am not one to 'rub it in' . . .



. . . but wait - we still haven't seen the x800 . . .

(it'll be close epecially with the 'xt'.

No I gotta go to work early to start saving for my PS & GPU.
(those 500w antecs are expensive)

 

[NightRain]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

No I gotta go to work early to start saving for my PS & GPU.
(those 500w antecs are expensive)

 

[RussianSensation]

can we expect the power supply prices to start rising then for anything at 480 > considering the amount of demand this will generate at least for a little while once the first month supply of the cards ship?

 

[ElFenix]

the press really needs to take nvidia to task for requiring two internal power supply connections. if ati does it they should hound them too. should just plug the damn thing into the wall like it was a voodoo 6000. i've got a TT480 watt ps and i'd be pressed to clear out two lines

 

[LTC8K6]

6800U + High end Prescott = 600W PS?

 

[Chad]

For me, this is probably the most disappointing video card launch since, well, ever. What a huge let down. The power requirements, the very little FPS gain over a 1.5 year old ATI card, the $500 price. Bah bah bah bah bah! nVidia is not the great company they once were, like when they took on the unstoppable 3dfx and beat them down like a red headed step child by combining features, price, performance and support in one incredible package.

Good gosh I hope ATI can do something with their cards this month cause I'm not feeling this at all. :/

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: Chad
For me, this is probably the most disappointing video card launch since, well, ever. What a huge let down. The power requirements, the very little FPS gain over a 1.5 year old ATI card, the $500 price. Bah bah bah bah bah! nVidia is not the great company they once were, like when they took on the unstoppable 3dfx and beat them down like a red headed step child by combining features, price, performance and support in one incredible package.

Good gosh I hope ATI can do something with their cards this month cause I'm not feeling this at all. :/

Disappointing? What do you do tell yourself it would be 5x faster? And power requirements are just going to keep going up, ATi or Nvidia it will make no difference, they both will keep needing more power. This is one of the bigger performance jumps we have seen in quite some time. Sure there are some games that it barely makes a improvement but thats because it's CPU limited, you can tell that when some go UP in speed with AA/AF, or atleast stay very very close.

 

[LukFilm]

Originally posted by: Abhi

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
14860 3DMark03 score

OMG !! :Q

800x600 though!

 

[NightRain]

nVidia= Brute Force
ATI= Finesse.
It's much like a Mustang versus a Porsche.

 

[LukFilm]

Originally posted by: Chad
For me, this is probably the most disappointing video card launch since, well, ever. What a huge let down. The power requirements, the very little FPS gain over a 1.5 year old ATI card, the $500 price. Bah bah bah bah bah! nVidia is not the great company they once were, like when they took on the unstoppable 3dfx and beat them down like a red headed step child by combining features, price, performance and support in one incredible package.

Good gosh I hope ATI can do something with their cards this month cause I'm not feeling this at all. :/

If you don't call being 2x faster at 16x12, 4xAA,16AF impressive, you will never be impressed in life by anything. That's AMAZING!!! However, I think R420 will be faster anyway, but for now, WOW!

 

[LukFilm]

Originally posted by: NightRain
nVidia= Brute Force
ATI= Finesse.
It's much like a Mustang versus a Porsche.

Please! Enough with the BS! What EXACTLY do you mean by finesse? Will R420 run at 100MHz core, 200MHz RAM and polish its performance to match GF6800?

(Yes, I DO have ATi Radeon 9800 Pro)

 

[ectx]

I own stocks of both companies. What should I do w/o digesting all the information?

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: LukFilm

Originally posted by: NightRain
nVidia= Brute Force
ATI= Finesse.
It's much like a Mustang versus a Porsche.

Please! Enough with the BS! What EXACTLY do you mean by finesse? Will R420 run at 100MHz core, 200MHz RAM and polish its performance to match GF6800?

(Yes, I DO have ATi Radeon 9800 Pro)

Ya Ive never understood this myself, who cares how it gets done, as long as it gets results and it gets the job done. NOOOO dont buy a Athlon 64, by putting the memory controller on die they are using brute force! EVILLLL! And if people honestly think the R420 wont use any decent amount of power, their smoking something, its basic electronics, power usage will continue to go up.

And look at that Brute Force! You think ATi has lowered their power consumption? Theyll be using about the same amount of power.

 

[phreaqe]

i cannot wait till they have reviews of the non ultra version. i want to see performance of that one too. for all the people that are complaining about being dissapointed. i want to now if you would ever be exited about an new card that came from Nvidia. if you actually belived the people saying that there was going to be 8x the performance then you should be smacked. you set yourselves up for dissapointment. and you can tell who is an ATI fanboy by there comments about NVidia and being dissapointed. i think it is really funny. without fanboys this stuff would be so boring

at high resoltion this card creams the older cards. but while i am excited about that i do realize that it still needs to be compared to the R420.

 

[Chad]

Disappointing? What do you do tell yourself it would be 5x faster? And power requirements are just going to keep going up, ATi or Nvidia it will make no difference, they both will keep needing more power. This is one of the bigger performance jumps we have seen in quite some time. Sure there are some games that it barely makes a improvement but thats because it's CPU limited, you can tell that when some go UP in speed with AA/AF, or atleast stay very very close.

I am disappointed because for $500.. let me say that again FIVE FREAKING HUNDRED DOLLARS I get a video card that requires a new power supply, has an average jump in FPS (I am not as impressed as some of you) and basically no new cool features. My point revolves around the whole package. In the old days, when nVidia beat down 3dfx, they offered a compelling package. It had 32 bit color, had new features that allowed for new cool stuff, had a very competitive cost (usually $299 for top of the line and other lines which were cheaper but had great performance), had huge FPS gains, great drivers, etc etc etc.

I think you guys are absolutely bonkers. $500 for a card that has an average jump in FPS and forces most of us to run out for a new power supply and doesn't have any new compelling must have features is just not very exciting to me.

For a half a thousand dollars I just don't get it. I guess if you go money to throw away this is great news. But for me, husband and father of two, who works and goes to school this doesn't prompt me to get it.

I remember back when the GeForce 3 launched, how amazing it was, how exciting, how big the improvements were. At $299 I fought thosands of other people to get my card first and was extremely happy with it once I got it.

That was my point.

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: Chad

Disappointing? What do you do tell yourself it would be 5x faster? And power requirements are just going to keep going up, ATi or Nvidia it will make no difference, they both will keep needing more power. This is one of the bigger performance jumps we have seen in quite some time. Sure there are some games that it barely makes a improvement but thats because it's CPU limited, you can tell that when some go UP in speed with AA/AF, or atleast stay very very close.

I am disappointed because for $500.. let me say that again FIVE FREAKING HUNDRED DOLLARS I get a video card that requires a new power supply, has an average jump in FPS (I am not as impressed as some of you) and basically no new cool features. My point revolves around the whole package. In the old days, when nVidia beat down 3dfx, they offered a compelling package. It had 32 bit color, had new features that allowed for new cool stuff, had a very competitive cost (usually $299 for top of the line and other lines which were cheaper but had great performance), had huge FPS gains, great drivers, etc etc etc.

I think you guys are absolutely bonkers. $500 for a card that has an average jump in FPS and forces most of us to run out for a new power supply and doesn't have any new compelling must have features is just not very exciting to me.

For a half a thousand dollars I just don't get it. I guess if you go money to throw away this is great news. But for me, husband and father of two, who works and goes to school this doesn't prompt me to get it.

I remember back when the GeForce 3 launched, how amazing it was, how exciting, how big the improvements were. At $299 I fought thosands of other people to get my card first and was extremely happy with it once I got it.

That was my point.

And how much will the ATi cost? Oh wait if the rumors are true, ATi will have MORE expensive cards. Of corse the top cards are going to cost alot. Im waiting for the non Ultra and stuff, to see how thoose go. These are the TOP end cards, they cost a hell of alot to make. When you have 2 companies racing so hard, they are going to put out expensive stuff to show their top dog. Would you rather these companies just put out slower less expensive cards? Why shouldnt they put out BOTH.

 

[phreaqe]

I am disappointed because for $500.. let me say that again FIVE FREAKING HUNDRED DOLLARS I get a video card that requires a new power supply, has an average jump in FPS (I am not as impressed as some of you) and basically no new cool features. My point revolves around the whole package. In the old days, when nVidia beat down 3dfx, they offered a compelling package. It had 32 bit color, had new features that allowed for new cool stuff, had a very competitive cost (usually $299 for top of the line and other lines which were cheaper but had great performance), had huge FPS gains, great drivers, etc etc etc.

what would you consider a better thatn average performance gain. i would condsider it better thatn average myself because at the high resolution with AA it is far better that a 9800xt.

as for new features you must not be able to read because there are a lot of new features. hardware video encoding just to name one(the coolest feature in my opinion). i am too lazy to go and find other new features. but theyare there

 

[Chad]

Like I said I hope ATI can prompt me to get excited for their cards. I did not say they would, but I hope they do. :/

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: NightRain
nVidia= Brute Force
ATI= Finesse.
It's much like a Mustang versus a Porsche.

Brute force? Its VPU is clocked slower than either of the top highend cards currently available.

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: NightRain
nVidia= Brute Force
ATI= Finesse.
It's much like a Mustang versus a Porsche.

Oh ya lets take another look at that power consumption, which you MUST be reffering to, because if your talking about anything else you are a idiot, even so you pretty much still are... Some More Brute Force!

 

[BlvdKing]

The NV 6800 is incredible! This is a true performance leap from one gen to the next.

 

[Markfw]

I have nothing but ATI cards and have had nothing but trouble with Nvidia cards, BUT the card looks very interesting , appears to perform quite well, and well built. I am dying to see what happens with the 420/423 cards coming from ATI later this month and next month. This is a great time. I just ordered my second 9800pro (this one a refurb) after getting Far Cry and needing it to run the game on my third gaming PC. I don;t think I need anymore horsepower than that for a while, as I don't run anything above 1280x1024, and only medium on the FSAA, etc.. (except Far cry I cranked everything to the max, still works great)

 

[Macro2]

Looks like Nvidia is back on top, and by a wide margin.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: fsstrike
according to some of those images, the 6800 doesnt seem to be much better.

Look at the resolution setting. They are comparing a 5950U at 1024x768 to a 6800u @ 1280x1024. Impressed now?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Macro2
Looks like Nvidia is back on top, and by a wide margin.

Until the 26th or May, wait and see ATI's new card first. And as was stated before "when they are both in stock at newegg".