*official* Oblivion Thread, opinions?

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: trmiv

Originally posted by: MBrown

Originally posted by: trmiv
I'm guessing playing this on an AMD Athlon XP 2400+ with 512 megs of PC3200 and a Radeon 9700 Pro is pretty much out of the question? I guess I'll wait until I can afford to upgrade or get an Xbox 360.

You might be able to play it. Just get a 6800gt and another stick of 512 and see what happens. This game seems to be playing rather well on low end rigs.

Damn, that would be pricey. I'd need two sticks of 512 for dual channel since right now I have 2x256. So around $67 for the memory at Newegg, plus $200 or so for the card. I might as well just wait and get a 360.

Your 9700pro will play it at lower settings. I have friends running the game on mobile X300s, and those are even slower.


BTW, I heard in this game that enemies level up with you. That sounds pretty sucky, since, like Final Fantasy 8, it pretty much takes away the point of leveling, as the only way to get more powerful than enemies is with better equipment. More realistic I suppose (since a naked man in real life could never take down a guard either), but I'm wondering if the game might be more enjoyable if I installed Oscuro's mod, which puts set limits on enemy levels. (meaning that the game can't be beat at a low level, since some things just will start at level 40, rather than just being whatever level you are) I'm still debating it personally, I don't want to ruin the game with a 3rd party patch, but on the other hand, the more traditional idea of level caps for enemies sounds better.

After Thoronir and whats-his-name have the conversation in the back alley, and you have to tail him back to his house, sneak up on him and pickpocket his "Debaser" sword. (May as well swipe his housekey too while you're at it.) He'll be unarmed when you confront him in the crypt. You can then beat him up with his own sword, and/or fence it for a nice bit 'o gold

That would have been really nice to know at the time! Also, I ended up glitching the quest the first time, I casted eye of fear on him when he was about to talk to me in the crypt (thinking it'd help with the negotiations) and he ran out of the crypt, with the crypt key, and didn't come back. It was kind of hard to defeat him though, it was the first fight in the game where I had to use some strategy. The pillars in the crypt were really helpful to hide behind.

Chameleon 100% will completely hide you, most of the time. I was able to attack Imperial Guards while standing in plain site. They ran because they couldn't find their attacker. They did not arrest me afterwards because they didn't know it was me.

Don't you turn visible when you attack?

 

[Powermoloch]

No...you only turn visible if you are using a invisible spell. Chameleon will let you stay invisible regardless if you attack or not.

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Chameleon 100% will completely hide you, most of the time. I was able to attack Imperial Guards while standing in plain site. They ran because they couldn't find their attacker. They did not arrest me afterwards because they didn't know it was me.

Don't you turn visible when you attack?

I was able to attack a guard while standing in plain site, so no you don't turn visible. It completely hides you and you can perform actions with complete impunity.

 

[shortylickens]

This is gonna make me sound like an argumentative little bastard, but when I made a spell to get 100% chameleon, I still got attacked when I did a naughty. Is there something I'm missing?

I dont use a torch or a light spell or anything. The guards or monsters just find me.

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
This is gonna make me sound like an argumentative little bastard, but when I made a spell to get 100% chameleon, I still got attacked when I did a naughty. Is there something I'm missing?

I dont use a torch or a light spell or anything. The guards or monsters just find me.

What level were you at? I was running around with an enchanted set of chamelon armour + 35% chameleon spell for a total of 103% chameleon at around level 25. I was able to walk right up to Imperial Guards and punch them. They would just run away. If I removed my armor, they wouldn't talk to me or arrest me because they were still fleeing. It totally broke the game for me though so I sold off the armor set.

 

[pelikan]

Does anyone have a link to a good guide to playing this game?

Any tips on what kind of character to try first to make it easy to get started?

Thanks.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: Fox5
but I'm wondering if the game might be more enjoyable if I installed Oscuro's mod, which puts set limits on enemy levels. (meaning that the game can't be beat at a low level, since some things just will start at level 40, rather than just being whatever level you are) I'm still debating it personally, I don't want to ruin the game with a 3rd party patch, but on the other hand, the more traditional idea of level caps for enemies sounds better.

IMO, quitting my character and starting over with Oscuro's mod was the best thing I did for this game-- along with minimizing the HUD, getting rid of the compass and quest markers, installing the LOD packs (including Windowlights, Natural Environments, and some others), allowing no respawn, and slowing down the leveling x3.

If I were to start all over again, I would add the Guild Requirements for looting the guilds (so an Apprentice can't just take anything he wants) and level/skill requirements for guild advancement. I'm not even level 15 yet and have completed all but the Dark Brotherhood guild (just about to begin that one) and the Arena (early into it). My magic skills are pretty much useless... IMO, I shouldn't have been able to advance to the leader of the Mage's Guild with sub-20 in all magic skills. So, the requirements would've forced me to work on those skills more.

Some of the main things that Oscuro will fix for you would be that you won't run into a situation where a level 32 highwayman wearing Ebony armor stops you and demands 100 gold. Or complete the arena at level 5. Or complete the Shrine quests at low levels. I wanted to be able to walk into a cave, get my ass handed to me by a group of vampires, reload, and decide to come back to that cave later when I'm more ready to handle them. This mod does that and more. Highly, highly recommended.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
This is gonna make me sound like an argumentative little bastard, but when I made a spell to get 100% chameleon, I still got attacked when I did a naughty. Is there something I'm missing?

I dont use a torch or a light spell or anything. The guards or monsters just find me.

you need to be over 100% Chameleon . . . sometimes the spells don't seem to work as well as the Gear.

and Guards will sometimes "see" you - even if you are 150% Chameleon - if you attempt to "pickpocket" them . . . you will get the "You're going to Jail" and a bounty . . . but if you choose "resist arrest" they can't find you [unless you have the Grey Fox Cowl . . . then run and ditch it quick].

i am DONE, btw


i have - at Level 49

196 completed Quests
13 Master/8 Expert Skills
378 Places Found
106 Oblivion Gates Closed
Top of all 9 factions

Did i miss anything?
:Q

i got my life back - until the expansion
:shocked:



not bad for my first fantasy RPG

 

[Painman]

Yippee, I just discovered a interesting random dungeon generation "feature"... the Nether Tunnels in one of the random Oblivion worlds - starts out with one of those holes you have to drop down through to a lower level (so you can't leave the same way you came in). The exit in this particular random cave leads to another random cave, and the exit door for this set of caves - get this - goes nowhere. Literally. Click on the door, I get the message, "This door leads to nowhere." Lovely. If it weren't for Autosaves, I'd be stuck, and would have to use some console voodoo to get out.

And just to make it even more of a pisser, one of the Fleshy Pods in those caves coughed up a Daedric Longsword, my first one since breaking level 20 - that was going to make for a nice upgrade after a bit of enchanting. Bah!

Oh, and apoppin - that's some serious RPGin' there sir. I salute you!

 

[alrocky]

Started another character and ran into a someone I couldn't kill and who outran my 60 speed level 4 elf. So I hightailed back to town running atop the water and she keep up while swimming. She took out at least half a dozen guards before dying! Boy, was I ever overmatched. She dropped a weightless (quest item) magical sword with 12 hit points at my current strength. I can dispatch opponents now in a couple swipes and the game now seems unbalanced. Of course the repair costs are high for my character. Part of me wants to keep the weapon and part of me wants to reload a previous saved game and bypass the encounter until later.

 

[Powermoloch]

I started a new character...a breton.

The benefits that I found out right away was the 50+ magicka bonus & 50% resist magicka. Top it up off all that w/ a wizard birth sign, at lvl 1, I got 200 pts on magicka. Compared to my lvl 30 dark elf with 200 pts to magicka w/ 100 intelligence. It's pretty awesome

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: alrocky
Started another character and ran into a someone I couldn't kill and who outran my 60 speed level 4 elf. So I hightailed back to town running atop the water and she keep up while swimming. She took out at least half a dozen guards before dying! Boy, was I ever overmatched. She dropped a weightless (quest item) magical sword with 12 hit points at my current strength. I can dispatch opponents now in a couple swipes and the game now seems unbalanced. Of course the repair costs are high for my character. Part of me wants to keep the weapon and part of me wants to reload a previous saved game and bypass the encounter until later.

I think I know which sword you got. Forgot the name but if its weightless I'll bet it looks like a long version of the assasin dagger you got from the Dark Brotherhood.
Someone rich in a town actually wants that back. But the reward they give you is weak. I recommend holding on to it for a while. It helped me out a lot.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: alrocky
Started another character and ran into a someone I couldn't kill and who outran my 60 speed level 4 elf. So I hightailed back to town running atop the water and she keep up while swimming. She took out at least half a dozen guards before dying! Boy, was I ever overmatched. She dropped a weightless (quest item) magical sword with 12 hit points at my current strength. I can dispatch opponents now in a couple swipes and the game now seems unbalanced. Of course the repair costs are high for my character. Part of me wants to keep the weapon and part of me wants to reload a previous saved game and bypass the encounter until later.

I think I know which sword you got. Forgot the name but if its weightless I'll bet it looks like a long version of the assasin dagger you got from the Dark Brotherhood.
Someone rich in a town actually wants that back. But the reward they give you is weak. I recommend holding on to it for a while. It helped me out a lot.

HonorBladeofChorril? - it was my favourite sword for a LONG time.
[you can return it ot the Castle - where it belongs - or for a reward]
. . . You need to turn it in to complete the Shrines' Quest.


or Blade of Umbra?
[very nice; but you also need to turn it in to progress]

i started as a Breton . . . accidently and luckily
[turned out to be a good choice]

and i am "cleaning up" . . . looking seriously at the "walkthru maps" . . .
[i have some found some places and Secrets not on ANY internet map - especially Oblivion Gates] :Q

HINT: . . . i didn't realize you should visit [all the] Dark Stones . . . they confir some decent Bound Weapons and especially some awesome reusuable powers.

 

[CalvinHobbes]

Originally posted by: pelikan
Does anyone have a link to a good guide to playing this game?

Any tips on what kind of character to try first to make it easy to get started?

Thanks.

http://www.gamefaqs.com is a good place to start.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes

Originally posted by: pelikan
Does anyone have a link to a good guide to playing this game?

Any tips on what kind of character to try first to make it easy to get started?

Thanks.

http://www.gamefaqs.com is a good place to start.

gamewinners.com is good to but I think all their guides are actually linked from gamefaq's.

And it was the Honor Blade of Chorral.
However, you score no points because it was not in the form of a question.

 

[Maxspeed996]

I'll have to get looking for that "honorblade"....
is there a way to enchant an item for weightlessness?
Tonight I'm going to craft some "Chameleon Armor" and see what I can do with it. I can't believe I've not thought of that yet. MY GOD!!! WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH ME!!!!
I've been too busy trying to catch more souls so that I can make some "death weapon" with maxed out weakness to poison , and Maxed out poison damage....but that puts the requirements up so high , you can't even use it!! LOL!!
reminds me of the good ol days of Diablo , v1.09 with Jamella!!!

 

[martensite]

**Possible minor spoilers**


I have finished the Dark Brotherhood, Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild quests, so I have my own rooms in their guild halls at certain cities. Now, can I take the stuff from the guild halls since I am the guildmaster? The purse icon is not red, but white, so will I be expelled or suspended from the guild for stealing?

Also working my way up the mages guild...got my staff and access to the Arcane U. I am tempted to pick up a few of the soul gems lying around the Arcane U. I already stole the ones in the main office a long time ago during the arch-mage's staff TG mission lol, but at that time, I was not a member of the Mages Guild.

 

[pelikan]

Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes

Originally posted by: pelikan
Does anyone have a link to a good guide to playing this game?

Any tips on what kind of character to try first to make it easy to get started?

Thanks.

http://www.gamefaqs.com is a good place to start.

Thank you. I'll check it out.

 

[martensite]

Originally posted by: alrocky
Started another character and ran into a someone I couldn't kill and who outran my 60 speed level 4 elf. So I hightailed back to town running atop the water and she keep up while swimming. She took out at least half a dozen guards before dying! Boy, was I ever overmatched. She dropped a weightless (quest item) magical sword with 12 hit points at my current strength. I can dispatch opponents now in a couple swipes and the game now seems unbalanced. Of course the repair costs are high for my character. Part of me wants to keep the weapon and part of me wants to reload a previous saved game and bypass the encounter until later.

Lol you just met Umbra at Vindasel. I made the mistake of going into Vindasel when I was only level 3 or so, and I could not kill her, no matter what, because I had crappy weapons and spells. I rode all the way to the Imperial City stables on my stupid bay horse, but she followed me there and took out the guard who tried to intervene. The I rode all the way to Weynon priory hoping that Jauffre could help me out. No such luck. All he did was to keep saying 'Watch out', then I ran into the chapel, where she killed me.

So I reloaded, and stayed away from Vindasel.

A couple of levels later, I bought the Akavari Sunderblade (100pts Disinetgrate armor and 100pts disinegrate weapon), went back into Vindasel, turned the difficulty down hehe, and showed her who's the boss.. Unfortunately, due to the repeated strikes with the Sunderblade, the Umbra sword was broken. Cost me a fortune later to repair it.

I did not know at the time that Vindasel was actually a future quest. Anyway, now my Umbra is at 26 pts damage. (lvl 14 dark elf)...best sword in the game so far, since I havent come across any daedric stuff yet. There is hardly any armor that the Sunderblade/Mage Paralysis Staff + Umbra cannot handle ATM.

It would be interesting to lure Umbra out if you have Shadowmere around. Anyone tried it? Shadowmere is supposed to immortal right?

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: martensite
**Possible minor spoilers**


I have finished the Dark Brotherhood, Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild quests, so I have my own rooms in their guild halls at certain cities. Now, can I take the stuff from the guild halls since I am the guildmaster? The purse icon is not red, but white, so will I be expelled or suspended from the guild for stealing?

Also working my way up the mages guild...got my staff and access to the Arcane U. I am tempted to pick up a few of the soul gems lying around the Arcane U. I already stole the ones in the main office a long time ago during the arch-mage's staff TG mission lol, but at that time, I was not a member of the Mages Guild.

If it's white, then you can take it. Most of the stuff in guild halls are free for the taking and restock pretty quickly. I would go into the dining rooms in Mage Guild halls to take food and use them for alchemy all the time. You're a member of the guild, so you should be able to take supplies right?

 

[Painman]

^^ This is true for all guilds/factions. After you do the Cloud Ruler thing, all the items in Weynon Priory become free for the taking (not that there's much to take), but the point is that you can now take them because you're a Blade.

A few items at the guilds remain red (mostly or all at Mages guilds) since they belong to a guild vendor, or they're personal property - the soul gems on the vendor's table at one of the guild halls come to mind. So you should still check the cursor color before you grab. Contents of locked containers probably aren't for you either.

Originally posted by: apoppin
[i have some found some places and Secrets not on ANY internet map - especially Oblivion Gates] :Q

I'd be interested to know what kinds of stuff you've found through the gates - just minor Easter Egg stuff, or major ones? I know about the Embers of Hatred Easter Egg, and I've found 2 of those wacky Blood Potions now. No need to provide spoilage, just some clues to look out for

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: apoppin
[i have some found some places and Secrets not on ANY internet map - especially Oblivion Gates] :Q

I'd be interested to know what kinds of stuff you've found through the gates - just minor Easter Egg stuff, or major ones? I know about the Embers of Hatred Easter Egg, and I've found 2 of those wacky Blood Potions now. No need to provide spoilage, just some clues to look out for

you can find almost all the awesome gear in the Oblivion Planes . . . since my MQ is finished, i am finding no more "open gates" - just ["new"] closed ones . .. .
. . . after i hit ~450 hours i went searching for 'secrets' on the Oblivion Forums . . . seems like i found 'em all [except for those damn 4 sequential chests at Pale Pass] . . . some are underwater [like a chest off the coast of Anvil, for example] some are just in the "open" [like a chest contining a probably unfinished quest re: the rules of "the Hunt"]

what i DID find is Oblivion Gates - more than a few - not on ANY internet map . . . i am guessing that they "appear" the longer you are in the game. . . . and the maps are "catching up" with me - the latest has most of the places and even the gates.

currently, i am going to get kicked out of the Fighter's and Mages' Guilds {that IS a quest to return} and am trying to visit every doomstone [they confer bound weapons - and some awesome powers].
[i am also playing with the console to REplay the MQ's Final Battle at Level 49] . . .

and definitely turn in your Sword of Umbra and HonorBladeofChoroll - after you have equally powerful weapons - you cannot complete quests without them [and "turning in" the HonorBlade at the Castle gets you a "Reflect Damage" shield . . . verry nice].

after more than 500 hours i am still loving this game . . .
:thumbsup:

 

[Maxspeed996]

I must be missing out on something , because when I went to enchant an armor set last night , I realized that "Chameleon" was not one of the spells offered to me to enchant with. Does that list only offer spells that you have learned? Because I don't have Chameleon in my list of known spells. Where do I get it , if that's how it works....

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
I must be missing out on something , because when I went to enchant an armor set last night , I realized that "Chameleon" was not one of the spells offered to me to enchant with. Does that list only offer spells that you have learned? Because I don't have Chameleon in my list of known spells. Where do I get it , if that's how it works....

you either "find" Chameleon Gear or else use Sigil Stones to Enchant Gear up to 35% . . .

also, if you are a mage, you can use a Spell to Cast Chameleon of varying strength on yourself [use the Altar of Enchanting and a Grand Soul Gem]

 

[Maxspeed996]

I've just not found anything like that yet. And I don't have the spell in order to cast it on myself. So I went to the alter of enchanting to enchant a glass armor set with Chameleon. And there isn't the option of enchanting it with Chameleon in the spell list.
Who teaches Chameleon? I've not yet found this teacher......
The Sigil Stones I've not even heard of yet , except in the forums....I've done absolutely NONE of the main quest in the game. I've laid out proabably every inch of the map. And started looting caves and crypts for loot. I'm doing the Arena , finishing the mages guild quests I think , and just starting the thieves guild , and the dark brotherhood. I've not even touched the fighters guild yet.....I just bought my second house in Skingrad. I've got the house in Bruma. And I need $$ again..so more looting tonight! I want to try to do some creepin around while invisible or chameleon on me or somthing.