*official* Oblivion Thread, opinions?

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
I've just not found anything like that yet. And I don't have the spell in order to cast it on myself. So I went to the alter of enchanting to enchant a glass armor set with Chameleon. And there isn't the option of enchanting it with Chameleon in the spell list.
Who teaches Chameleon? I've not yet found this teacher......
The Sigil Stones I've not even heard of yet , except in the forums....I've done absolutely NONE of the main quest in the game. I've laid out proabably every inch of the map. And started looting caves and crypts for loot. I'm doing the Arena , finishing the mages guild quests I think , and just starting the thieves guild , and the dark brotherhood. I've not even touched the fighters guild yet.....I just bought my second house in Skingrad. I've got the house in Bruma. And I need $$ again..so more looting tonight! I want to try to do some creepin around while invisible or chameleon on me or somthing.

No one teaches Chameleon . . .

What's your level? Perhaps it is to low to enchant Chameleon Gear.

Definitely start the MQ . . . you certainly can "drop it" and return to it anytime . . . you need to clear Oblivion Gates to get Sigil Stones [hint: Quicksave just before you grab the stone and REload until you get the Chameleon Stone you want - the computer gives stones randomly, so it may take awhile]

And don't rush the game . . . after more than 500 hours i am still finding *new* things, places and ways to do things.
:thumbsup:

 

[Maxspeed996]

awesome , thanks for the tip....I think I'm going to get rolling on the MQ and see a little of what I've been missing.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: martensite

It would be interesting to lure Umbra out if you have Shadowmere around. Anyone tried it? Shadowmere is supposed to immortal right?

You don't even need Shadowmere for that. I've trained Umbra to the city several times to have the guards killed her. What you do is strip naked, then shoot her from the top with a bow... then run out. When you're out, keep an eye at the door... don't run until she's out, because more than likely she fell down the pit trap, and if you run too far ahead of her, she won't chase you. When you see her, make a beeline for the city. Once in the city, the guards will jump on her. If you want her to die quick, train her in the day. If you want to train her around to various zones to see how many guards she can kill, train her at night. I had her take down 27 guards once (and a couple of NPCs)... the good thing about that, is you can loot the guards when they're dead.

Anyways, i've been thinking of getting Oblivion for the 360 as well. If been itching to play it again, and this time i want to see how much achievement points i can get. The only disappointing thing about the 360 is the lack of player-created mods.

 

[Suture]

I love this game. I've completed the Dark Brotherhood/Black Hand stuff, got kicked out of the Mage's Guild for stealing (lol), and almost done with the Thieve's Guild stuff I think, and have done a ton of the Figher's Guild quests. Purchased a house in Bruma and completely decked it out. Have done various side quests along the way, and at 56 hours in, am a level 28 Assassin. I've closed about 4 gates so far, and enjoy the storyline. Playing it on a P4/3GHz, 2GB DDR2, GeForce 6800GS 256MB PCI-E at 1024x768 with high settings and HDR enabled.

Spent the holiday weekend at my brother's in Virginia Beach, and he's running the game on a P4/2.6GHz, 1GB DDR3200, 9700Pro 128MB AGP -- at 800x600, with medium settings the game still looks absolutely beautiful and runs smoothly on his PC.

 

[robphelan]

can someone clarify soul trap for me?

i've been using a battleaxe of soul trap and it's been working well for me. however, it weighs like 30 or so.

I learned the soul trap for 20 seconds spell - when I cast it on a creature and it dies within 20 seconds, does it matter who kills it? meaning if i summoned a Dremora and it kills a goblin (or whatever) will the soul be trapped? Or must I be the one who kills it?

as someone posted earlier, conjuration rocks.

 

[fishjie]

gorgeous game. i play in such a way that i dont fast travel if i've never actually visited a place before. this lets me view the beautiful world. my favorite experience was walking to bruma while escorting martin and jauffre, and it started snowing, and i think my jaw dropped.

but yeah, level 19 knight, my first and only character. didnt really know what i was doing or i would have designed him differently (hint, you dont want skills you use a lot as major, otherwise you'll level up too fast without getting the full +5 bonus to a stat).

anyway i start battle most of the time by summoning a clanfear, then i try to circle around back of the enemy while its engaging my clanfear. as a master of blade i try and throw in some paralyze attacks. this is one on one fighting. for fighting multiple monsters i try and do a tactical retreat so i can fight only one at a time. the clanfear slows the other pursuers down.

i recommend not doing the sins of the father quest (where you can turn in the honorblade of chorrol for the shield of chorrol) because if you delay it until you're high level, you get a really nice reflect damage bonus to the shield and better fortify stat enchantments on it. its a sexy shield.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: apoppin
No one teaches Chameleon . . .

There's one you can get called "Shroudwalk", I think I bought it from M'raaj-Dar @ Dark Brotherhood sanctuary. It's crappy, but at least it gives you the "known effect".

I'm with you on the sigil stones though... I think they give better % Chameleon than you can make on your own. I've noticed that several of them are that way.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: fishjie
(hint, you dont want skills you use a lot as major, otherwise you'll level up too fast without getting the full +5 bonus to a stat).

Part of the beauty of the game is that you can do that, or not - I've found that the game balance is very good for those who approach it from a pure roleplaying angle (ie. choosing majors that one does use a lot). Item generation is tuned well too - I don't find too much, or too little, if I just let things run their course.

i recommend not doing the sins of the father quest (where you can turn in the honorblade of chorrol for the shield of chorrol) because if you delay it until you're high level, you get a really nice reflect damage bonus to the shield and better fortify stat enchantments on it. its a sexy shield.

This is true of most magical quest reward items. Chillrend is another good example - if you hold off completing that quest until 20+, it's a really nasty weapon.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: apoppin
No one teaches Chameleon . . .

There's one you can get called "Shroudwalk", I think I bought it from M'raaj-Dar @ Dark Brotherhood sanctuary. It's crappy, but at least it gives you the "known effect".

you can find or buy Chameleon Spells . . . but there is no "trainer" as there are for the 17 Skills.

i can get my Chameleon ridiculously high - over 200 - but generally play with it ~90 [my Sneak Skill is 109] . . .

and i just realized you can get OVER Level 49 . . .

the *only* way i can get kicked out of the Mages Guild is to kill a mage ['stealing' doesn't work anymore] - GO TO JAIL - and LOSE some Major Skills . . . and then Level beyond Level 50.
:Q

good plan, huh?



i will soon have *all* the secrets of this game

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: apoppin
No one teaches Chameleon . . .

There's one you can get called "Shroudwalk", I think I bought it from M'raaj-Dar @ Dark Brotherhood sanctuary. It's crappy, but at least it gives you the "known effect".

you can find or buy Chameleon Spells . . . but there is no "trainer" as there are for the 17 Skills.

i can get my Chameleon ridiculously high - over 200 - but generally play with it ~90 [my Sneak Skill is 109] . . .

and i just realized you can get OVER Level 49 . . .

the *only* way i can get kicked out of the Mages Guild is to kill a mage ['stealing' doesn't work anymore] - GO TO JAIL - and LOSE some Major Skills . . . and then Level beyond Level 50.
:Q

good plan, huh?



i will soon have *all* the secrets of this game

Why would you want to level over level 50?

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: apoppin
No one teaches Chameleon . . .

There's one you can get called "Shroudwalk", I think I bought it from M'raaj-Dar @ Dark Brotherhood sanctuary. It's crappy, but at least it gives you the "known effect".

you can find or buy Chameleon Spells . . . but there is no "trainer" as there are for the 17 Skills.

i can get my Chameleon ridiculously high - over 200 - but generally play with it ~90 [my Sneak Skill is 109] . . .

and i just realized you can get OVER Level 49 . . .

the *only* way i can get kicked out of the Mages Guild is to kill a mage ['stealing' doesn't work anymore] - GO TO JAIL - and LOSE some Major Skills . . . and then Level beyond Level 50.
:Q

good plan, huh?



i will soon have *all* the secrets of this game

Why would you want to level over level 50?

Because he can

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: Fox5
Why would you want to level over level 50?

What kind of question is that? It's possible, that's why.

By my calculations, it's possible to reach level 57, if you plan correctly.

Originally posted by: apoppin
you can find or buy Chameleon Spells . . . but there is no "trainer" as there are for the 17 Skills.

Ah, ok. I misunderstood your meaning.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: Fox5
Why would you want to level over level 50?

What kind of question is that? It's possible, that's why.

By my calculations, it's possible to reach level 57, if you plan correctly.

i believe - if you are patient enough - by repeatedly going to jail - you can push it to Level 255 [before it rolls back over to Level 1 . . . OR you can do that with the console and save a few hundred hours]



i was just fooling around . . . and found Skill books that can push my skills even higher . . . AND where the heck is the 4th Chest for My Damn Omnipotence Ring . . . i found three . . . so far . . .

. . . you DO know about the Sequentially Unlocked 4 chests in Pale Pass?
[it doesn't appear in any Quest log . . . but the Reward is nice]
:Q

:evil:

edit: found it . . . !

i started on the wrong end of the Serpent's Trail . . . the 4th one is really easy to find.
[and the Ring ain't that nice . . . confirs a bunch of "+3s"]
:Q


. . . and i may have to ReOpen an Oblivion Gate - or two . . . there is a Special Bow and the Mace of Hatred - does speed and fire damage - and other stuff hidden INSIDE a pool of Lava.
:shocked:

 

[Powermoloch]

had you seen the ring of perfection ~ !!!!? It's awesome :thumbsup:

 

[StrangerGuy]

Have fun with ogres, goblin warlords and gloom wraiths at level 50+, if you enjoy clicking for 100+ times to kill them.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Is Umbra supposed to be tough? Took me about ten seconds to finish that fight- I was expecting something cool but instead found a complete whimp. I was level 34 at the time, just wanted to comment on that because I keep seeing people bring it up.

I went another route for indestructability(besides Chameleon)- reflect damge for 101% and absorb magik for 106 points(I am NOT Atronach- born under the Mage ). Still have to figure out a way that I can survive standing in a pool of lava for an hour, but other then that my character can't be killed AFAIK(close to 500 hit points, jumped off everything I could find and can't take more then half my HP away no matter how high it is). This was done through acquired armour, rings and amulets along with transcendant sigil stones.

A lot of the gear you pick up in this game is leveled, as an example the SpellDrinker amulet that you get from one of the early Mage's Guild quests does something like 8-9 points of spell absorbtion if you get it at level 10 but almost 30 points if you get it in the mid 30s. Apply this to all the special gear in the game and if you wait until you are a high level before you touch any of the good stuff you will become as powerful as you like by the time you are through(well, not as nast uber powerful as in Morrowind, but being able to kill a god with a single hit was a bit over the top ).

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: apoppin
i believe - if you are patient enough - by repeatedly going to jail - you can push it to Level 255 [before it rolls back over to Level 1 . . . OR you can do that with the console and save a few hundred hours]



i was just fooling around . . . and found Skill books that can push my skills even higher . . . AND where the heck is the 4th Chest for My Damn Omnipotence Ring . . . i found three . . . so far . . .

. . . you DO know about the Sequentially Unlocked 4 chests in Pale Pass?
[it doesn't appear in any Quest log . . . but the Reward is nice]
:Q

:evil:

edit: found it . . . !

i started on the wrong end of the Serpent's Trail . . . the 4th one is really easy to find.
[and the Ring ain't that nice . . . confirs a bunch of "+3s"]
:Q


. . . and i may have to ReOpen an Oblivion Gate - or two . . . there is a Special Bow and the Mace of Hatred - does speed and fire damage - and other stuff hidden INSIDE a pool of Lava.
:shocked:

Heh, I forgot about jail, but my understanding was that regaining skills lost in jail wouldn't help you level. I guess that's not how it works. I just counted the 525 potentially possible skill increases plus 40 potential more from Oghma...

There's a few undocumented things I'm aware of, as a game guide owner I made a rule not to use the book to spoil stuff for myself, but I would read the quest descriptions as post-mortems... so I found out about Ring of Omnipotence that way (and I agree, it's sucky).

There's a better ring hidden somewhere in Skingrad

Bow and Mace - Yeah, that's the "Embers of Hatred" deal I spoke of. I thought it was only available through the Chorrol Gate in the main quest, but I have discovered that you can get it through a random one - possibly multiple times - since the random gates will produce that same map... the one where there is a circle of 7 towers in front of you, and a sinking tower behind you.

The guide book isn't perfect, though - it has at least 2 errors in it that I know of, and it doesn't mention Fin Gleam at all (have you found it?).

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
had you seen the ring of perfection ~ !!!!? It's awesome :thumbsup:

I've gotten it, sadly I didn't save after doing so and accidentally wiped it. Easy to get though if you're 20+. Head to Robber's Glen Cave on the road north of Bravil, save outside, raid it, if you don't get RoP out of one of the chests in there, reload and try again. There's 14 chests (several are "boss" type) in there guarded by 13 imps and a minotaur, ALWAYS 13 imps and a minotaur regardless of your level. That's a total cakewalk for a 20+ char. Imp Gall is a KILLER ingredient for high level poisoncraft to boot!

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
Have fun with ogres, goblin warlords and gloom wraiths at level 50+, if you enjoy clicking for 100+ times to kill them.

At 50+ one should have access to enchanting altars, a vast stockpile of Daedric base weapons to enchant, Azura's Star, a Master Alchemy set, have mastered Alchemy, not to mention at least 25 Sneak skill... if a player uses all that is at their disposal in this game for dealing damage to leveled enemies, they can all be killed more quickly than you think. FAR more quickly.

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Is Umbra supposed to be tough? Took me about ten seconds to finish that fight- I was expecting something cool but instead found a complete whimp. I was level 34 at the time, just wanted to comment on that because I keep seeing people bring it up.

It depends. Some people try to take her at level 3 I confronted her @ level 25 with my previous char as well as my current one. The first char had poor equipment at the time, so-so Health, and ended up having to use a cheesy approach to killing her. That char was a fantastic learning experience, though, all told... the current char (the recipient of the wisdom gained by the first) was well prepared, and tore her to shreds in face-to-face combat. Ogres and Brown Bears have more fight in them than she does, TBH.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Is Umbra supposed to be tough? Took me about ten seconds to finish that fight- I was expecting something cool but instead found a complete whimp. I was level 34 at the time, just wanted to comment on that because I keep seeing people bring it up.

I went another route for indestructability(besides Chameleon)- reflect damge for 101% and absorb magik for 106 points(I am NOT Atronach- born under the Mage ). Still have to figure out a way that I can survive standing in a pool of lava for an hour, but other then that my character can't be killed AFAIK(close to 500 hit points, jumped off everything I could find and can't take more then half my HP away no matter how high it is). This was done through acquired armour, rings and amulets along with transcendant sigil stones.

A lot of the gear you pick up in this game is leveled, as an example the SpellDrinker amulet that you get from one of the early Mage's Guild quests does something like 8-9 points of spell absorbtion if you get it at level 10 but almost 30 points if you get it in the mid 30s. Apply this to all the special gear in the game and if you wait until you are a high level before you touch any of the good stuff you will become as powerful as you like by the time you are through(well, not as nast uber powerful as in Morrowind, but being able to kill a god with a single hit was a bit over the top ).

Enemies seem to scale up to a point... At a certain point everything just got easy. But Umbra is a pain in the ass.

Just keep in mind that the Shrine rewards don't change at different levels... You might as well go for them as soon as you can.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Enemies seem to scale up to a point... At a certain point everything just got easy. But Umbra is a pain in the ass.

Just keep in mind that the Shrine rewards don't change at different levels... You might as well go for them as soon as you can.

You're right about the scaling. Most things actually don't scale at all. NPC type enemies do (Bandits, Marauders, Conjurers, Necros, Vampires, Dremora Valkynaz), plus: Gloom Wraith, Goblin Shaman, Goblin Warlord, Lich, Minotaur Lord, Ogre, and Xivilai - the rest are fixed level and are mostly to be slapped around at 40+.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Just keep in mind that the Shrine rewards don't change at different levels... You might as well go for them as soon as you can.

Skeleton Key and the final shrine are best held off til later without a doubt. Depending on your major skills you can notch quite a few levels beyond 'max' with them.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Just keep in mind that the Shrine rewards don't change at different levels... You might as well go for them as soon as you can.

Skeleton Key and the final shrine are best held off til later without a doubt. Depending on your major skills you can notch quite a few levels beyond 'max' with them.

absolutely true . . . my Sneak got boosted to 109 and some of my other skills also top 100 with the Last Shrine Quest

[level 49; topped all 9 guilds; 3 Million Gold; invested in most of the shops;Maxed Major Skills; all Master - except for 4 Expert skills; got all the skill books; all the Master trainers - except for Alawen - it' *another bug*, probably caused by the Pirate Plugin . . .
. . . now working on a LONG "jailtime" - for an "apprentice mage killing spree" - you shouldda seen the "FRENZY" i started at the Arcane University . . .
and now i will be able to level beyond Level 50] . . . yes, Prison does work to level you - up to Level 255 if you are that patient - not i.



530 hours
[i don't have a Guidebook . . . But i also read the Oblivion Forum Links AFTER i have sompleted something so i miss NOthing.

Working on reopening gates [mini-cheat] to get the Mace and Bow

!!!



My "Reflect Damage" is regularly over 106 . . . i don't use Chameleon anymore [well, i keep an Amulet and a Ring and spells - "in case"] . . . my "Sneak" is 109 and i can push it well over 150 . . . My Heavy Armour is so heavy [with reflect damage, reflect spell] - i can walk into the toughest battles - and just leave my Char [for a break] . . . when i am back . . . ALL the enemies are dead . . . and my Char is undamaged . . .

unfortunately i can't just walk into a Pool of Lava
. . . i DO have a "18% Ring of Firewalking" . . . it appears to be UNIQUE . . . i don't remember how i got or if i will ever see another . . . all i see is "resist fire" or "Fire Shield". Know about it?

 

[apoppin]

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hope it's at least a couple of hours.

 

[MustISO]

Sweet! I still need to finish the MQ and the brotherhood quests. Glad to see more stuff being released.

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Is Umbra supposed to be tough? Took me about ten seconds to finish that fight- I was expecting something cool but instead found a complete whimp. I was level 34 at the time, just wanted to comment on that because I keep seeing people bring it up.

Umbra was pretty easy for me too. After I talked to her and started the battle, I cast invisibility and ran into a dark corner with my Grey Cowl. I just hit her four times while sneaking with my bow.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Coming soon . . . a new plugin:
Mehrunes' Razor - DLC9 . . . $2.99 . . .

That DOES look cool - I've taken a pass on the other official plugins so far... I hope these don't take the place of full-blown expansions, though.