They just need to cut prices to the point where consumers will buy consoles.
I hope it is, this console needs to go down in flames with a big fat middle finger from the gaming community so we don't get the same kind of overpriced system plus nickel and diming on top of that with PS6.Well, I'm assuming all this chatter we're seeing on the net is just the vocal minority, and most gamers just don't follow what's going on any sort of granular level? I'm guilty of this when not actively gaming or engrossed in a single game, where I just won't keep track or bother to read anything game related. Well, for Sony's sake, I certainly hope the almost universal consensus on their pricing isn't indicative of general gaming consumers.
Yeah WTF is there to be excited about with PlayStation? They made their bed with the live service crap that's tanking the brand now, The Last of Us Part III hasn't even been announced so it's years away, all we have seen of Wolverine is one lousy cutscene so it's years away, and they don't even have a Stellar Blade or a Rise of the Ronin for 2025 much less the kind of system seller exclusives they had every year from 2015 on last gen.And they couldn't have chosen the worst time to do it. PS5 doesn't even have a large catalog of system selling exclusives.
They will have have to cut prices if it doesn't sell. It's not like Sony can sell the chips back to AMD.
I hope it is, this console needs to go down in flames with a big fat middle finger from the gaming community so we don't get the same kind of overpriced system plus nickel and diming on top of that with PS6.
I suspect the sales number will be soft, and they'll have to reduce prices & increase the bundle value by early next year.
I hope it is, this console needs to go down in flames with a big fat middle finger from the gaming community so we don't get the same kind of overpriced system plus nickel and diming on top of that with PS6.
I expect it won't be worthwhile to buy a PS6. Microsoft buying Activision killed the loss leader model for PlayStation where they'd subsidize your console purchase in the hopes you'd buy into their ecosystem so they could get that fat 30% cut on yearly COD releases. Which is why you now see an $810 PS5 Pro. No way that thing costs $310 more to manufacture than base PS5. Probably also killed the loss leader model for great single player games which were also there to get you to buy into the PlayStation ecosystem. Hence the focus on live service games.If the PS6 is going to be worthwhile to buy, I figure it'll have to be at least $699.
Which is why you now see an $810 PS5 Pro.
I expect it won't be worthwhile to buy a PS6. Microsoft buying Activision killed the loss leader model for PlayStation where they'd subsidize your console purchase in the hopes you'd buy into their ecosystem so they could get that fat 30% cut on yearly COD releases.
If I was looking to buy a PS5 the $310 extra for Pro would absolutely be a deal breaker for me when it's just a 45% at best bump in gpu power. At $500 I was willing to look past it not having FreeSync support for example. At $810 I can't look past that. HDMI 2.1 VRR is meaningless to me because I'm not going to spend $1000 on a TV that has 4k120Hz support to get that HDMI 2.1 VRR. Same for the 4k40 mode in PS5 games, which requires a 4k120 TV.$80 a deal breaker for me? No. Early next year or if there's some compelling end of year deals, it's about time to build a new PC gaming rig. I really like that new AMD 7800X3D, and by then I'd imagine the 4080 would reach around $800, my price entry point.
If I was looking to buy a PS5 the $310 extra for Pro would absolutely be a deal breaker for me when it's just a 45% at best bump in gpu power. At $500 I was willing to look past it not having FreeSync support for example. At $810 I can't look past that. HDMI 2.1 VRR is meaningless to me because I'm not going to spend $1000 on a TV that has 4k120Hz support to get that HDMI 2.1 VRR. Same for the 4k40 mode in PS5 games, which requires a 4k120 TV.
While I can certainly understand the younger generation's comfort with purely digital media, I am not. For instance, I want physical copies of ER & DLC to ensure I can always replay them 1) absent any internet access, 2) not having to log on to some account, and 3) in its original and intended form. Recently, they patched and nerfed the final boss fight; so, I want the physical pre-patched copies.
No one said it would be $499. A bump to $810 is pretty extreme.It was never going to be $499 with the drive. The days of heavily subsidized consoles are over, and the cost of the Slim with the drive is probally close to that.
What does that matter? PS5 Pro won't either.I don't think you can build a PC for $800 that can do 4k 60 at least definitely not native.
I would have guessed $600 max for the PS5 Pro, with or without a disc drive, just based on how consoles have been priced/marketed in the past.
Because the general consensus of everyone on forums/reddit complaining about the price is "$800 is too much for a console, you can just shift to PC gaming and get better results."What does that matter? PS5 Pro won't either.
Not exactly now. Wait for blackwell & RDNA 4Now is a good time to take that $800 and add to it for anyone that does want to move to PC.
Sure but after that there won't be any competition for Nvidia.Not exactly now. Wait for blackwell & RDNA 4
AMD will have full stack again after UDNA is adopted.Sure but after that there won't be any competition for Nvidia.
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Not exactly now. Wait for blackwell & RDNA 4