Here's two, one with an AMD card and another with an Nvidia for roughly $100 more.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fHKkQP - 4070
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cgsjfy - Radeon 7900
Here's two, one with an AMD card and another with an Nvidia for roughly $100 more.What's the expected ETA? Q1 or Q2 next year?
Ah, one certainly can't build an $800 PC to run 4K @ 60 FPS, which even for a 4080/90 isn't an easy task. However, I'm pretty sure I could head over to pcpartspicker and put together something equivalent to the PS5 Pro for about $1,000 - $1,200? At this price point, I'm sort of like a few hundred here or there starts to become chump change.
So, that's why, for me, $80 isn't a deal breaker. I had been willing to pay up to $700 with a disk, now it's $800 with a larger SSD. I may buy it or not, I guess. Maybe, I'll just flip a coin!
Come on, make up for the covid era? COVID was a godsend for Sony and they made enormous profits as more people bought consoles and games with everyone's social lives shut down for a year to a year and a half thanks to the pandemic. This feels more like retribution from Sony for not buying their stupid Concord game.Because the general consensus of everyone on forums/reddit complaining about the price is "$800 is too much for a console, you can just shift to PC gaming and get better results."
It's not like when the Pro comes out the regular console stops working and the Sony mafia comes to your house to collect payment. A lot of people saying they won't buy it but it will sell regardless. A lot of people are mad but every company is cost cutting and doing everything they can to increase profits to make up for covid era.
Now is a good time to take that $800 and add to it for anyone that does want to move to PC. Overtime you will have a high end rig.
After finding out Sony pissed away $200 million on Concord for zero sales $700 without the drive looked pretty likely IMO.I would have guessed $600 max for the PS5 Pro, with or without a disc drive, just based on how consoles have been priced/marketed in the past.
Consoles are generally sold at a loss including when it was priced at $500. If they can sell 10 million now at $700+ they perhaps can make up for it or break even. I didn't even know about Concord but yeah that could also be a reason.Come on, make up for the covid era? COVID was a godsend for Sony and they made enormous profits as more people bought consoles and games with everyone's social lives shut down for a year to a year and a half thanks to the pandemic. This feels more like retribution from Sony for not buying their stupid Concord game.
I recall reading they were selling nearly at cost from Day 1 before any of the node shrinks that let them cut cost on chips, power supply, and cooling (the heatsink got way smaller in the second or third revision, I forget which). It's not like the PS3 gen where they took substantial losses on the hardware as a Trojan horse to get Blu-ray adoption up. And now they stripped out the drive this gen so they can either make you pay $80 for a lousy read only drive when blu-ray writing drives are cheaper or they can force you to buy everything digitally where they get a 30% cut on every game sale. Loss leader model died when we found out Microsoft was buying Activision.Consoles are generally sold at a loss including when it was priced at $500. If they can sell 10 million now at $700+ they perhaps can make up for it or break even. I didn't even know about Concord but yeah that could also be a reason.
Here's two, one with an AMD card and another with an Nvidia for roughly $100 more.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fHKkQP - 4070
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cgsjfy - Radeon 7900
Ordered a blue ray disk drive from Sony yesterday and I'm surprised they shipped it same day and it's arriving today. I'll hang on to it to see if I can get a preorder of the Pro. If I am not able to, and anyone from here needs one I'll be happy to sell it to anyone here within the US.
Ordered a blue ray disk drive from Sony yesterday and I'm surprised they shipped it same day and it's arriving today. I'll hang on to it to see if I can get a preorder of the Pro. If I am not able to, and anyone from here needs one I'll be happy to sell it to anyone here within the US.
I'll give it the good old college try. Having been away for 3 weeks I'll be pretty busy at work on the 26th so I may not have the time to login on my phone and try to order. I will be very interested in seeing how many total preorders it will have but I suppose that metric won't be available just yet.I don't think you will have any trouble preordering.
Yeah I think the PS5 Pro demand will be similar to PSVR2, except you won't have to order directly from Sony this time. I don't think preorders will sell out unless stores are only getting like 3-4 of them.
Digital Foundry says 3070 TiMe too. Except, I ordered it from Walmart. Should I change my mind, could always return within 30 days. As of now, I'm kind'a leaning towards the Pro, since it appears most believe its performance is most similar to a 4070.
And then they'll still be playing games at 30 fps anyways lol like Hogwarts was when shown running on PS5 Pro per Digital Foundry.Oh I think the Pro will do a lot better than the PSVR2. The PSVR2 was stillborn at birth. There will be people out there who will overlook it's $50, $100 more expensive than it should be because they hate 30 fps that much.
I think after the initial sales at launch, it's going to be super stagnate.IMHO, I don't think this will sell too well. While I'm ok with the price, barely, what gives me a moment of pause is the likelihood of seeing vendors shave $100 off this in about 6 months. I just don't like feeling like a chump overpaying during launch.
As to 30 FPS, I don't like it and see no reason why any game should run at 30 FPS in late 2024.
Also exclusives are getting really hard to exist through any console ecosystem right now, and I don't see it getting much better with unification of HW.
Almost all the ones they get are in-house or low development costs.Seems to work for Nintendo.
Prob the only console I'll buy next gen. If PS6 isn't giving me much discount vs PC I'm probably fine waiting a couple of years for exclusives to get ported. Especially if it's a digital console next gen.Seems to work for Nintendo.
Some calculations:
On the other hand, the PS5 Pro is about 5% behind the RX 7700 XT in FP32 performance and about 33% superior in memory bandwidth . At this level, it will be able to show at least 10% better performance than the RX 7700 XT. It can be seen as roughly between the RX 7700 XT and RX 7800 XT, and the GeForce RTX 4070 fits perfectly in this performance range. In other words, in terms of raw performance, the PS5 Pro's GPU performance seems to be on par with the RTX 4070.
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