I think people stress too much on GPU but that seems fine to meIn games where CPU performance is important, such as Cyberpunk 2077 and Flight Simulator, there are situations where 60 FPS is not even achieved due to CPU bottleneck, not GPU bottleneck.
In other words, it may be difficult to always guarantee 60 FPS in the latest open world game titles and RT games due to the characteristics of the PS5 Pro specifications.
It's not about affording it. Almost everyone in this thread could afford the PS5 Pro. It's about opportunity cost. I could get an ultralight backpack, a nice bivy sack, and a lighter weight bear canister for backpacking for $810. I could go to 15+ Spurs games for $810. I could go out for a nice ribeye steak every week for next 5-6 months. I could get 2/3 of the way to a 65 inch LG OLED. Or for gaming I could upgrade my RX 6700 XT to an RTX 4070 Ti Super. I could buy the next gen Switch and go pick up some hookers. Every one of those is something I'd pick over spending $810 on a PS5 Pro. Well maybe not the last one if the wife is reading tbh.As I'm sure with most here, I could afford it, of course. However, at $700 sans disc, it's not a certainty I will part with $800 for it. If they can assert it'll run ER & DLC at 60 FPS Fidelity Mode, I'll pre-order. If not, then I'll pass, and wait for the PS6, I suppose. Or, they actually make a game I like, e.g., Bloodborne 2, instead of this utter crap they've been churning out.
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Article is mostly about Intel's attempts to get the deal, but Sony is indeed going with AMD for PS6.
I do still think they should have upgraded the CPU to Zen 4c at least.
In games where CPU performance is important, such as Cyberpunk 2077 and Flight Simulator, there are situations where 60 FPS is not even achieved due to CPU bottleneck, not GPU bottleneck.
In other words, it may be difficult to always guarantee 60 FPS in the latest open world game titles and RT games due to the characteristics of the PS5 Pro specifications.
PS5 pro can upscale from 847p to 4K 🤔
The paradigm has been shifting for a long time now from quantity of pixels to quality of pixels and in bringing machine learning-based upscaling to consoles for the first time, PSSR allows developers to spend more system resources on how good a game can look as opposed to how high the resolution is. Now, don't get me wrong, upscaling quality does tend to improve the higher the base resolution - but it's down to developers now to choose the best balance for their games. Should they go for a 1080p presentation richer in detail, or a higher resolution 1440p alternative? Developers will need to make that call - but ultimately, it's all about the quality of the final presentation. The flexibility of machine learning-based upscaling means that 'how good the game looks' takes precedence over 'how high the pixel count is'.
Just to be clear then: if a game runs at a 'low' resolution on PS5, and an equally 'low' resolution on PS5 Pro, they are not the same thing. Improved upscaling makes a difference, but bearing in mind the extra horsepower of the Pro, we can imagine that the developers are doing more with those pixels. The extent to which this is going to be successful is ultimately down to a more subjective assessment of the presentation for each title
DF Weekly: PS5 Pro's PSSR AI upscaling could be a game-changer
Armed with broadcast quality footage, Digital Foundry re-assesses the PS5 Pro's contentious reveal.www.eurogamer.net
Yeah XBox One was definitely hated at the same level at least. They had the worst console reveal I have ever seen.You know, not that I follow such things closely during my gaming life, but I can't ever recall a console launch so seeming universally disliked. Maybe, that stupid Xbox thing where they wanted gamers to log onto the internet?
If the Pro sales are soft, Sony's going to have to address it by either lower the price or increasing the value proposition. Not even Sony can afford to have Concord bomb, the PS5 Pro bomb, and then Fairgames and Marathon bomb. This would be a string of unprecedented failures never seen before in the history of gaming.
I'm not a marketing guru or game industry expert, but Sony needs to up their game.
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDGGEEE RAACCEEERRR!! IT'S RIDGE RACER!!Umm... Sony's had their fair share of bad E3 reveals.
Based on DF testing, Alan Wake 2 runs at 864p internal resolution on PlayStation 5 Pro in the 60fps clip, while the equivalent base PS5 mode operates at 847p. Firstly, we can safely assume that in transitioning from FSR 2 upscaling to PSSR, we will see a substantial quality upgrade. However, perhaps more important is to consider what Remedy will be doing with the Pro's extra resources in increasing quality elsewhere because obviously, the extra GPU horsepower in the Big Three is going to be used for features that Remedy prefers over simply increasing resolution. This is basic commonsense.
I still remember there were at least some people excited for the PS3 launch even after that. Well, until it launched lol. I was working in the industry before the launch and I know it broke all sorts of NDA but that summer I told all my friends stay the f--- away from the PS3, that thing sucks after getting my hands on it. And it did until 2009 when finally Demon's Souls and Uncharted 2 saved it.Umm... Sony's had their fair share of bad E3 reveals.
Can't even get 1080p60 on the PS5 Pro lol.
Wow.
Whatever the reason is, it's sad.They probably could if they spent a lot of time tuning it, but that's going to get them any additional sales and only takes time away from something better they could be doing with their developers' time.
Assuming they're talking about pure raster performance the issue is probably the 16 GB RAM limit more than the rest of the hardware. The game likes to use a lot of memory for graphics even without RT effects.
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Even at 1080p it will gladly eat up 10 GB or more just for video memory. If they're talking about the performance with RT, then you're already looking at a far more expensive GPU to hit 60 FPS at 1080p on PC.
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NVidia GPUs do a lot better here, but even if we restrict it to just AMD GPUs, it would take a a 7900 XTX to crack 60 FPS. Methinks you've forgotten just how demanding of a title AW2 is.
Its cute they think they are just competing with Xbone.