Official Playstation 5 thread

[cmdrdredd]

Cyberpunk is actually pretty playable now and is on par with Xbox in all areas compared to last year. If you followed at all the ps4 version (there was no current gen version until the latest patch) had far lower resolution than Xbox and lower crowd density in the city. It also had atrocious load times. The new patch brings the resolution and crowd density to match the Xbox for the most part(reports are that the Xbox holds a marginally higher resolution but ps5 performs slightly better in some areas for it). It also fixes the load times. It is still slightly behind Xbox in load times currently but it’s slight really. Talking like 12 seconds to 13 seconds or so. Nothing to be upset about. It also enables the dualsense features like adaptive triggers.

The new 1.5 patch introduced ray tracing on the current gen consoles. Ray tracing is underutilized but I can understand why, the consoles could never handle the effects in this game like a PC does. Ray tracing only affects shadows on consoles and it drops the frame rate to 30. Even then it doesn’t hold 30 all the time, it’s pretty much always 30 but you can force it to drop if you wanted to. Luckily the performance mode is mostly 60 and is 90% as good looking. The shadows add nice effects at night though. If it was a more solid 30 with no drops I would probably use it. I think they could have even gotten close to 60 if they used a bit more resolution scaling and were willing to drop to 1440p at the lowest. They hold the resolution above 1440 in quality mode and it hurts in many areas.

Developers trying to force every graphics mode to be close to or locked to 4K is a poor decision IMO. Anyway if you were on the fence, now is the time to start. I believe there is a timed demo of the game you can try out as well.

 

[A///]

I got lucky with mine. I'm not entirely sure why the PS5 is so hard to find in stores still. I was under the impression the XSX is slightly better all around but the XSX has been up for sale for days at a time when it's been stock for MSRP or with some bundled accessories and a 1 month membership. The PS5 is routinely sold out and again, I got lucky in a store that tracks customer purchases so no scalpers to worry about.

I haven't really followed State of Play much since the Ps5 launch but I can't imagine it offering better titles than the XSX or am I overestimating at how solid a choice the xsx is?

 

[jpiniero]

Anyway if you were on the fence, now is the time to start. I believe there is a timed demo of the game you can try out as well.

As I mentioned on the previous page, it was literally $5 a week ago at Best Buy.

I finally got around to trying the Matrix demo. Not sure if this got any attention but it requires an internet connection. I'm sure there's some... reason for that. I was going to uninstall but decided to indulge it and played around. I think it looks good.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I finally got around to trying the Matrix demo.

On my PC, it looks amazing. Haven't tried on PS5 yet. Howz the performance like? 30fps easy? Anything you did not like? There are no visual artifacts or glitches when you are flying past buildings?

 

[sze5003]

I'm thinking of buying the Lego Star wars Skywalker saga. Just to take a break from elden ring and play something a bit different. Apparently it's getting very good reviews.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

On my PC, it looks amazing. Haven't tried on PS5 yet. Howz the performance like? 30fps easy? Anything you did not like? There are no visual artifacts or glitches when you are flying past buildings?

1260p to 1728p dynamic resolution at 60 fps w/o RT shadows, or 1440p30 w RT shadows.

 

[Oyeve]

I'm thinking of buying the Lego Star wars Skywalker saga. Just to take a break from elden ring and play something a bit different. Apparently it's getting very good reviews.

Same here. Just not willing to pay AAA price yet. Maybe when it's 20 bucks. My hands are killing me with all the elden ring I've been playing.

 

[jpiniero]

On my PC, it looks amazing. Haven't tried on PS5 yet. Howz the performance like? 30fps easy? Anything you did not like? There are no visual artifacts or glitches when you are flying past buildings?

It felt like 30 fps but it was pretty stable.

The chase felt bullshotty actually.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I got lucky with mine. I'm not entirely sure why the PS5 is so hard to find in stores still. I was under the impression the XSX is slightly better all around but the XSX has been up for sale for days at a time when it's been stock for MSRP or with some bundled accessories and a 1 month membership. The PS5 is routinely sold out and again, I got lucky in a store that tracks customer purchases so no scalpers to worry about.

I haven't really followed State of Play much since the Ps5 launch but I can't imagine it offering better titles than the XSX or am I overestimating at how solid a choice the xsx is?

Ps5 has a few more high profile exclusives than Xbox. Many gamers also have a pc capable of playing the games from Microsoft like Forza and halo.

I see pros and cons to both. The ps5 lacking VRR while not a deal breaker can sway me to play a game on series x because I can compensate for some slight frame rate hits. Gamepass has saved me lots of cash on games I’d otherwise have to buy. However the ps5 has some QOL additions like the controller’s adaptive triggers and an easier to navigate UI since I just want to find my games and don’t care about all the extras. I know some games load a lot faster on one console or the other sometimes like elden ring but I’ve never found it to be an extreme case that pushed me to one console or another on a particular title. Performance goes back and forth depending on the game in question and the mode being tested (performance or graphics mode). Sometimes ps5 wins out with a higher CPU clock speed and sometimes the additional GPU performance pushes the complex effects to slightly higher performance on the series x. The series x does tend to hold higher resolution on many titles but this can impact performance too so it’s give andbtake. There is not a clear cut performance gap at this time and maybe there won’t be. As it turns out ray tracing on consoles is either relegated to shadows only or not used. Very few titles use it for global illumination or reflections. The ones that do look fantastic however such as Spider-Man on ps5. I would like to see less push for 4K and more games dropping to a 1440p base with scaling in order to get better performance. I don’t mind 30fps sometimes but when some titles don’t hold a locked 30, it’s not enjoyable.

TLDR: I think a lot of people gravitate toward playstation for the lineup of exclusives that Xbox can’t match. Gamers with a pc especially.

 

[A///]

Ps5 has a few more high profile exclusives than Xbox. Many gamers also have a pc capable of playing the games from Microsoft like Forza and halo.

I'll take your word for it. I really don't know what's on PS5 that's not on PS4 or Xbox. I almost picked up a XSX a few weeks ago because the Xbox+PC play deal is just too good. I think the product went out of stock before I came to my decision to try and get it. To be fair, the XSX supply has improved a ton in recent months and the listing I'm talking about in particular had been up for several days before selling out.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I'll take your word for it. I really don't know what's on PS5 that's not on PS4 or Xbox. I almost picked up a XSX a few weeks ago because the Xbox+PC play deal is just too good. I think the product went out of stock before I came to my decision to try and get it. To be fair, the XSX supply has improved a ton in recent months and the listing I'm talking about in particular had been up for several days before selling out.

It’s not about what is on PS4 too I don’t think. It’s about what is exclusively playstation. Since all ps4 titles are playable on ps5 and many of them get performance benefits over playing it natively on the ps4, it’s an easy choice for many. For the Xbox, every first party exclusive and many third party Xbox exclusives also show up on pc which can contribute to someone’s choice of whether to pickup a series x or not.

 

[purbeast0]

I'll take your word for it. I really don't know what's on PS5 that's not on PS4 or Xbox. I almost picked up a XSX a few weeks ago because the Xbox+PC play deal is just too good. I think the product went out of stock before I came to my decision to try and get it. To be fair, the XSX supply has improved a ton in recent months and the listing I'm talking about in particular had been up for several days before selling out.

I don't think the demand is there for XSX nearly as much as PS5 and that is a lot of the reason XSX is easier to get now a days.

I think since they both have come out the PS5 generally speaking has been a lot more sought after. The resale market pretty much proved this as well since PS5's were going for like $200+ more than XSX at the same time they were both out of stock in stores for the first couple months after launch.

Either way, and I know we were in the middle of a pandemic, it's pretty incredible that 1.5 years after the consoles came out you can't just walk into any electronics store and purchase one.

 

[A///]

I don't think the demand is there for XSX nearly as much as PS5 and that is a lot of the reason XSX is easier to get now a days.

I think since they both have come out the PS5 generally speaking has been a lot more sought after. The resale market pretty much proved this as well since PS5's were going for like $200+ more than XSX at the same time they were both out of stock in stores for the first couple months after launch.

Either way, and I know we were in the middle of a pandemic, it's pretty incredible that 1.5 years after the consoles came out you can't just walk into any electronics store and purchase one.

XSX still sells out eventually. It was barely up with a crappy combo deal the other day.Barely lasted 8 minutes. XSS is easy to find, though. They've been gathering dust at the stores near me. Honestly think that was a misstep for MS.

 

[jpiniero]

Honestly think that was a misstep for MS.

Just the opposite. In a lot of countries it's outselling the XSX. Being a smaller die helps a lot.

 

[A///]

Just the opposite. In a lot of countries it's outselling the XSX. Being a smaller die helps a lot.

I'm aware, but the main markets for consoles are western English speaking with the addition of Germany and France simply due to their buying power, as was said to me many years ago when the PS4 Pro launched. XSS was India's top bought console last year but without knowing much about India I'd imagine services there are cheaper and while a console is sold it's not the money maker for the company. Recurring fees and game sales are.

I think we're basically on the path where to have a console you need an active sub for games to work properly. Recurring cost in regions or countries outside of the prior ones are significantly cheaper.

 

[purbeast0]

XSX still sells out eventually. It was barely up with a crappy combo deal the other day.Barely lasted 8 minutes. XSS is easy to find, though. They've been gathering dust at the stores near me. Honestly think that was a misstep for MS.

Last Best Buy drop XSX was available for in store pickup for more than 24 hours.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Last Best Buy drop XSX was available for in store pickup for more than 24 hours.

Walmart had them for a week and a half, no bundle, no Walmart+ necessary.

 

[A///]

Last Best Buy drop XSX was available for in store pickup for more than 24 hours.

Walmart had them for a week and a half, no bundle, no Walmart+ necessary.

Yep, don't forget Amazon had them for a few days. The crap combo deal was available on NewEgg for $550 that came with an extra regular controller and 1 month free of XBox Live, which already comes with 1 month free at purchase so two months.

The Best Buy and Walmart deals you guys are referring to were great but were more than two or three weeks ago.

 

[A///]

I really wanted to get one but I don't know if every new console launch was this lame in terms of new games or this is a pandemic side effect, but the games selections from both console sides seems lackluster. I got the PS5 only because it was an easy buy for me minus the dang price. A no brainer to pick it up when they're still selling like hot cakes.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I really wanted to get one but I don't know if every new console launch was this lame in terms of new games or this is a pandemic side effect, but the games selections from both console sides seems lackluster. I got the PS5 only because it was an easy buy for me minus the dang price. A no brainer to pick it up when they're still selling like hot cakes.

Always the same. Takes about a year for anything really worthwhile. Maybe 1 or 2 gems around launch then a drought.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I really wanted to get one but I don't know if every new console launch was this lame in terms of new games or this is a pandemic side effect, but the games selections from both console sides seems lackluster. I got the PS5 only because it was an easy buy for me minus the dang price. A no brainer to pick it up when they're still selling like hot cakes.

This has been a great launch window for PS5, between Demon's Souls and Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart and the much better versions of late gen PS4 games like Ghost of Tsushima that the base PS4 wasn't powerful enough to run at even 30 fps. Far far better than the launch windows for PS4, PS3, XBox Series, XBox One, XBox 360, etc. Historically only Nintendo consoles usually launch with great games, eg Super Mario World for SNES, Mario 64 for N64, Breath of the Wild for Switch, etc., but PS5 is an anomaly in that it was highly worth getting from Day 1.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Always the same. Takes about a year for anything really worthwhile. Maybe 1 or 2 gems around launch then a drought.

Thought there was way more than 1 or 2 gems. Just on PS5 exclusives you have Demon's Souls and Rift Apart as absolute bangers this first year and a half. Then other highly rated exclusives like Deathloop and Returnal, though I haven't played either so can't say whether I'd consider them in the class of Demon's Souls and Rift Apart. Ghost of Tsushima was too much for base PS4 to run but PS5 runs it in its full glory. Spiderman Remastered is definitely a much better experience on PS5 than the original on PS4, that 60 fps in the performance rt mode really lends a lot to the sense of speed in the game. And then getting the full fat version of Miles Morales. Plus much better versions of Final Fantasy VII Remake and The Last of Us Part II. And then being the only console able to play Elden Ring at 60 fps using the PS4 Pro version in BC mode (though Series X has the best console version if playing on an HDMI 2.1 TV with VRR or a monitor supporting FreeSync). PS5 has had an exceptionally good launch IMO, at least when it comes to games (terrible when it comes to meeting demand obviously). Only system to beat it in the last 15 years was probably Switch with BOTW, Super Mario Odyssey, and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in the launch window.

 

[purbeast0]

Let's not sleep on Astrobot even though it was a freebie. That game was fantastic.

 

[Aikouka]

The Best Buy and Walmart deals you guys are referring to were great but were more than two or three weeks ago.

The last Series X drop at Best Buy was this past weekend, but it required Total Tech.

 

[A///]

A lot of the PS5 titles aren't ones I'd play because they're not my style of game, but wanted to get Deathloop and was told to avoid it because it didn't live up to the hype.

This has been a great launch window for PS5, between Demon's Souls and Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart and the much better versions of late gen PS4 games like Ghost of Tsushima that the base PS4 wasn't powerful enough to run at even 30 fps. Far far better than the launch windows for PS4, PS3, XBox Series, XBox One, XBox 360, etc. Historically only Nintendo consoles usually launch with great games, eg Super Mario World for SNES, Mario 64 for N64, Breath of the Wild for Switch, etc., but PS5 is an anomaly in that it was highly worth getting from Day 1.

I didn't know there was a new Ratchet and Clank game! I remember Resistance being really popular during the launch period of the PS3, though. There was another game that was heavily advertised but I don't remember the name for it. These carried the PS3 for a few months. It helped the Ps3 was mostly sold out for a long time, too.