Official Presidential Debate #2 thread

[dbk]

The Republican strategist on CNN just said "McCain wants to buy everyone a home and Obama wants everyone to have healthcare."

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I think this will come out as a Obama victory as far as from a public standpoint, the media will of course call it a tie. Personally neither guy did great but in the end that hurts McCain more than Obama at this point in the game

Doubt it. Obama has picked up a lot of votes over the past couple weeks. Some of them could change their minds back.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
I was in the ME during that war and saw scuds fall near me, believe me I would have completely understood if Israel had retaliated.

Israel had a full fleet of attack aircraft in the skies heading for the Iraqi border but the US wouldn't give them the ident codes so they risked being seen as bogeys by the coalition forces.

One big game of chicken.

They could have fired missiles back - which they did with the patriots later on, but they are defensive units.

Yeah, they don't go out of theatre, nor did they work very well.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Fox blaming Brokaw's question selection for a boring debate.

The Fox focus group actually says they think Obama communicated his points better; what's-his-name disbelievingly asks why...

edit: He asks how many thought McCain did better on the economy...four out of about twenty raise their hands, so he says "about half"...

 

[Blackjack200]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Blackjack200

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
We don't hold them back, we simply tell them when it is, and when it is not, acceptable to use the weapons that we sell (give) them. They listen because they don't want us to stop selling (giving) them weapons.

I was in the ME during that war and saw scuds fall near me, believe me I would have completely understood if Israel had retaliated.

And why didn't they?

See my post right above your question.

Interesting, do you have a source? I was only 10 when that war happened so I don't remember all the detail.

The Iraqi Airforce was destroyed on the first day, I'm a little skeptical that a strike force flying from Israel to Iraq would be engaged by coalition forces, but I could be wrong.

 

[dbk]

Frank Luntz' panel: Obama did better overall! OMG game over! j/k

 

[chess9]

My views:

1. This debate did nothing to help McCain.
2. McCain's stiffness, pettiness, and age were on display, but he rarely showed insight or grace.
3. Obama was workmanlike in his defense of his positions, though he was a bit diffuse with his answers in this debate. You should answer the question asked.
4. Obama has stage presence. The difference between Obama and McCain almost reaches through the tv to the viewer.
5. On issues, it was almost a draw, with the win going to Obama for his elegance of presentation, clarity, and unwillingness to stoop as low as his enemy.

-Robert

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Fox blaming Brokaw's question selection for a boring debate.

The Fox focus group actually says they think Obama communicated his points better; what's-his-name disbelievingly asks why...

Watching CNN but honestly I might agree with the Fox assessment

 

[heyheybooboo]

Patrick J. Buchanan sez John McCain won the debate.

Sez McCain was 'nicer' and Obama was too laid back.

 

[Red Dawn]

Well if McCain is elected he's going to buy us all a home:shocked:

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Fox blaming Brokaw's question selection for a boring debate.

The Fox focus group actually says they think Obama communicated his points better; what's-his-name disbelievingly asks why...

Watching CNN but honestly I might agree with the Fox assessment

Did Brokaw select the questions himself? Kristol said a real townhall should've had creative, off-beat type questions that a voter can directly relate to - not the ones from inside the beltway.

 

[her209]

I wanted to see John McCain smash his chair over Obama's back.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: dbk
Frank Luntz' panel: Obama did better overall! OMG game over! j/k

I think you may be right. Only one debate left, and the country's turning blue.

-Robert

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: her209
I wanted to see John McCain smash his chair over Obama's back.

MCCAIN SMASH!!!!!

 

[BarneyFife]

I don't even think McCain is capable of lifting anything. He looks weathered.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: dbk
Did Brokaw select the questions himself? Kristol said a real townhall should've had creative, off-beat type questions that a voter can directly relate to - not the ones from inside the beltway.

Brokaw selected questions from those submitted by the audience.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I don't even think McCain is capable of lifting anything. He looks weathered.

If he had a heart attack, would Palin become the GOP's candidate?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: chess9
I think you may be right. Only one debate left, and the country's turning blue.

-Robert

I wouldn't count my chickens yet...who knows what will happen with this race.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Patrick J. Buchanan sez John McCain won the debate.

Sez McCain was 'nicer' and Obama was too laid back.

Well, that seals it then. Obama won.

-Robert

 

[Red Dawn]

Anybody notice McCain's left check pulsate every time Obama connected him with Bush?

 

[thirtythree]

I like the drudgereport headline: B O R I N G

Their polls have consistently been 75% McCain/Palin and 25% Obama/Biden... weird.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: chess9
I think you may be right. Only one debate left, and the country's turning blue.

-Robert

I wouldn't count my chickens yet...who knows what will happen with this race.

I only got to the second chicken....

-Robert

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I don't even think McCain is capable of lifting anything. He looks weathered.

If he had a heart attack, would Palin become the GOP's candidate?

That would be their dream come true...

 

[Blackjack200]

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Fox blaming Brokaw's question selection for a boring debate.

The Fox focus group actually says they think Obama communicated his points better; what's-his-name disbelievingly asks why...

Watching CNN but honestly I might agree with the Fox assessment

Did Brokaw select the questions himself? Kristol said a real townhall should've had creative, off-beat type questions that a voter can directly relate to - not the ones from inside the beltway.

I hate agreeing with Kristol, but this debate sucked. I think there were two reasons. First, the questions sucked. Second, with the current public resentment of corporate executives, both candidates are slinging are trying to score points by excoriating them. Boring.

 

[bozack]

Boring is right