Official Presidential Debate #2 thread

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NFS4

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Who cares about Israel? I don't.

I don't really give a shit about them either. They aren't special (to me at least). Let them get in line with everyone one else that wants our fuggin' help.
 

Farang

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McCain came out strong in the beginning and got Obama in kind of a whiny tone defending himself, but Obama came back by drawing McCain into the Pakistan strike trap ("bomb bom bomb Iran"). Overall though this is boring enough that it'll be called a wash and won't change anything.

That said this debate format sucks.. neither is really allowed to clarify misstatements from the other.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: mizzou
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
When have the Israelis needed our direct military help. They kicked the shit out of people before.

Actually, it's us getting in the way of Israel outright attacking Iran. They don't need our help, they need us to get out of the way

True, we have held them back so many times, specially during Gulf war 1 when scud missiles were raining down on Israel.

We don't hold them back, we simply tell them when it is, and when it is not, acceptable to use the weapons that we sell (give) them. They listen because they don't want us to stop selling (giving) them weapons.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Blackjack200
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: mizzou
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
When have the Israelis needed our direct military help. They kicked the shit out of people before.

Actually, it's us getting in the way of Israel outright attacking Iran. They don't need our help, they need us to get out of the way

True, we have held them back so many times, specially during Gulf war 1 when scud missiles were raining down on Israel.

We don't hold them back, we simply tell them when it is, and when it is not, acceptable to use the weapons that we sell (give) them. They listen because they don't want us to stop selling (giving) them weapons.

Simplified, but this. ^^^^^

 

CallMeJoe

Diamond Member
Jul 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Who the fuck is running McCain's campaign?

Obama has won this election tonight. Now it's a matter of how big a victory it will be.
Put down the Kool Aid.
Obama wins by not totally screwing the pooch. McCain needs a big win to re-energize his campaign, so even a close McCain debate win is really a win for Obama.

Cliffs: google Pyhrric Victory.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Fun game: Listen to the question, mute for 15 seconds, then unmute and see if the response at that point is in any way related to the question.
 

Aegeon

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Nov 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Obama. Would you wait on approval from UN or not?

He didn't like the question so now he's doing a Palin.
He said he'd be willing to take military action without UN approval in that situation. This also suggests he will just act if he judges it necessary.

He didn't specify whether he'd try for UN approval first, but that really depends on the exact situation to give a good answer in the first place. (If a counter attack isn't occurring for a bit, maybe you at least go through the motions at the UN first.)
 

bl4ckfl4g

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Feb 13, 2007
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Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Obama. Would you wait on approval from UN or not?

I'm still waiting for the answer, too!

Maybe you just need to understand better.

The part where he said we can't allow other nations a veto. That was your answer.
 
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