This. I was among those who waited and then kept on waiting until the 6950 since I had a 4890. And the 4890 was like a bird in the bush, which is priceless? :awe:A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. History has taught us to not count our Nvidia eggs until they hatch. It'll get here when it gets here, until then we've got 7970 coming on Jan 9th and it looks mighty impressive if you are still on an original 5870 or GTX460 or older.
That's fair enough, on 2560x1600 I could see the 7970 being something $550 makes sense for. I'm only on 1920x1200, so I don't think I really *need* it. It's nice, but I do wish it was a bit cheaper. Oh well, wait for NV and the 7950 as well I guess
AMD's CGN engineers must be laughing their asses off looking at derpdozer's team.
Eric: I actually like the Bulldozer design, I think particularly the revisions that are upcoming are going to be pretty good for it. It's not a bad CPU, itâs just that the competition is very good there. We [Graphics division] have the advantage with the competition being somewhat on-par with our current designs, in performance/$$ weâre probably still ahead of them. This part is another salvo in that continuous war. We don't have alien process technology like Intel does [laughing], thankfully we're not competing directly with them. We're actually competing with guys that have exactly the same process technology as us, so we feel really comfortable about going for it. In fact, right now, I wish we had more time (of course) with it before we introduced it but this is looking to be a rock solid product. Everybody has met their expectations and everybody is happy with their performance.
Eric: I actually like the Bulldozer design, I think particularly the revisions that are upcoming are going to be pretty good for it. It's not a bad CPU, itâs just that the competition is very good there. We [Graphics division] have the advantage with the competition being somewhat on-par with our current designs, in performance/$$ weâre probably still ahead of them. This part is another salvo in that continuous war. We don't have alien process technology like Intel does [laughing], thankfully we're not competing directly with them. We're actually competing with guys that have exactly the same process technology as us, so we feel really comfortable about going for it. In fact, right now, I wish we had more time (of course) with it before we introduced it but this is looking to be a rock solid product. Everybody has met their expectations and everybody is happy with their performance.
Wasn't this the thinking when the 5870 launched? And then early adopters not only got in at lower prices but they got to enjoy their DX11 cards for some 4-5 months (or was it longer?) before competition showed up?
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. History has taught us to not count our Nvidia eggs until they hatch. It'll get here when it gets here, until then we've got 7970 coming on Jan 9th and it looks mighty impressive if you are still on an original 5870 or GTX460 or older.
What's Eric gonna say? "BD was the biggest flop in the history of mankind, those dudes are LOSERS"? No, he's a manager for the company and he's not going to trash another dept, in no small part b/c if he's successful enough they might give him the cpu gig next month or next year.
Fixedlol, that's true!
but still, he is all... "thanks god intel don't make good gpus"
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Coming from NV themselves. I already posted info on that, look it up. NV admited no kepler until late Q2.
7970 scaling with different cpu's http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-cpu-scaling-performance-review/
Intel has access to AMD's graphics IP as part of the AMD/Intel settlement. How much is not public AFAIK.They can't get the IP from amd/nv, at least for right now.
Intel has access to AMD's graphics IP as part of the AMD/Intel settlement. How much is not public AFAIK.
How exactly am I making "stink" when I did what he asked me to do, I couldn't find what it was he cited, and asked him to show me? Silverforce has a long history of making claims he never backs up and all I asked him to do was show me where he saw that.
"We talked to NVIDIA today and they said they plan on releasing their next generation processor in the first half of 2012 and our sources off the record said it would be at the end of that time frame."
Our sources off the record. I don't know who or what that exactly is, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. I don't need to upgrade anyway, I just dislike people spouting fud as fact for the sake of trying to make something look bad.
And yet you "claimed"(repeatedly) there would be no high end card from AMD this year and that NVDA's high end card would be released within 2 months of it....How's that working out for you?How exactly am I making "stink" when I did what he asked me to do, I couldn't find what it was he cited, and asked him to show me? Silverforce has a long history of making claims he never backs up and all I asked him to do was show me where he saw that.
"We talked to NVIDIA today and they said they plan on releasing their next generation processor in the first half of 2012 and our sources off the record said it would be at the end of that time frame."
Our sources off the record. I don't know who or what that exactly is, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. I don't need to upgrade anyway, I just dislike people spouting fud as fact for the sake of trying to make something look bad.
Must be painful having two of the world's second-fastest single GPU/single card solutions. Let alone six more months of it. Chin up. It'll be okay soon. ^_^
And yet you "claimed"(repeatedly) there would be no high end card from AMD this year and that NVDA's high end card would be released within 2 months of it....How's that working out for you?
Intel has access to AMD's graphics IP as part of the AMD/Intel settlement. How much is not public AFAIK.
Somewhere buried in one of AMD's conference calls, the question came up, I believe it was Dirk Meyer being asked if graphics IP was involved in the refreshed cross license agreement as part of the cash settlement. His simple answer was "yes". I don't recall the exact details, but I don't believe much granularity was given on that point, so we don't know to what end the IP is available to Intel.Do we know this to be fact, or is this one of those cases where it is more like accepted (but unsubstantiated) common knowledge? (Serious question)
And yet you "claimed"(repeatedly) there would be no high end card from AMD this year and that NVDA's high end card would be released within 2 months of it....How's that working out for you?