I wonder why people were buying the 3700X at 329$ when the cheaper Core i5 10600K was faster
Nope. A 3600 about 3-6 months ago was ~$170 and the 3600X was ~$200. You could literally buy a 3600, motherboard, and 16GB of RAM for about what the 5600X costs. Or, get a 3600X for about $30 more.
The "Halo effect" has driven up all the AMD CPU prices. Right now, for someone trying to replatform who wants 6 cores under $300, their only real option is a 10400.
The relevance is number of cores is irrelevant. What matters is performance and 10700 has less at 50 bucks more.
So number of cores was relevant with 3700X at 329$ against the cheaper and faster 10600K at 265$ but is not relevant with 10700 vs 5600X ???
Because the 3700x could outperform the 10600K in well multi-threaded tasks.
But the 5600x outperforms the 10700 in lightly threaded and well multi-threaded tasks. Hence the confusion as why one would spend more money on the 10700 just to get less performance.
So number of cores was relevant with 3700X at 329$ against the cheaper and faster 10600K at 265$ but is not relevant with 10700 vs 5600X ???
Im sure you all know that 10600K was way faster vs 3700X in gaming that what 5600X is against 10700 today.
A lot of you that would recommend the 3700X vs 10600K a few months ago, now you dont like 10700 vs 5600X.
Nope.
5600x is faster across the board.
10600K wasn't.
Based on your workload 3700x or 10600K is the best choice.
Based on your workload 10700 is never the best choice.
It is really that simple.
I was talking about gaming from the beginning of this conversation, dont even try to change the goal posts.
3700X was losing big time in 1080p gaming and yet people chose them. They choose the higher core count and the better upgradability path to ZEN 3.
Its the same with 10700 vs 5600X, 10700 has the higher core count and it may have a better gaming upgrade path vs 5600X.
As I said before, Im only talking about gaming for the start.
So once again, 3700X was loosing badly in gaming against 10600K and yet people chose to buy the higher core count.
The name and likes kinda give away not so subtle attempt at trolling. But none the less, good line here:
change just 3 numbers and you get why i am mad at 5600X and its defenders.
Trust me, You dont want to mention 10700 or 10400 or 3600 in this thread. 5600X has the most amazing value when combined with $50 memory around here. Period.
I wouldn't have recommended a 3700x versus a 10600k just for gaming, that makes no sense. If someone wanted it for rendering or something as well, then yeah, maybe. However, I would recommend a 5600x over a 10700 because it just flat out wins for less money, no compromises.
Then there's literally no reason to buy a 10700 instead of a 5600X.
Why should I care? People make poor choices every day, one of those is suggesting to pay 50 bucks more for a worse performer, with less features.
You are "mad" that a solid CPU that is flying off the shelves is too expensive? You need help.
What was your best gaming CPU lineup before Zen3 was released?most gamers chose the 3700X over the 10600K and thats a fact. There are not that much people that render.
Now all of a sadden a +-5% performance in gaming at 1080p is better than 8C 16T
Anyway. 5600X is overpriced for a 6C 12T in late 2020 early 2021 no matter how you slice it.
And it is the first time in the last 3 years that personally I believe Intel has the better gaming CPUs from 100$ up to 350$.
When AMD will be kind enough to release a cheaper 5600 then we can talk again, until then I cannot recommend a 300$ 6core in late 2020 early 2021, simple as that
Only if you say it is.most gamers chose the 3700X over the 10600K and thats a fact.
PCIe4 is a feature.
And again, what it is a 10700 does for gaming with those 50 bucks more spent?It does nothing for gaming. Not even with a RTX3090
Only if you say it is.
Maybe. And then they'll require a different chipset.No, socket 1200 will also get the new Rocket Lake.
And again, what it is a 10700 does for gaming with those 50 bucks more spent?
It does nothing for gaming. Not even with a RTX3090
I didnt say it does more, I said its a better choice because it has 2C 4T more and might mature better due to consoles that have 8C 16T.
Gen 4 nvme drives allow for faster load times getting into the game faster and loading map transitions faster. Might not be a high priority for many, but I know it's a worthwhile investment for some.
Who knows what those crazy Germans were thinking, or what their pricing was compared to ours. I do know your statement isn't a fact, but rather a guess.3700X sold = 4310
10600K sold = 320
So all those 3700X owners chose the CPU for something else but gaming ??