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[amrnuke]

why did we invent a new word form when "it doesn't offer any more performance than N7, it's lower performing than N7+" would suffice?

Performant isn't an invented word, it already exists and mean something different from how it's being used.

Performant means "performing as expected." One could logically say that N6 is no more performant than N7 because the term "performant" isn't a grayscale term and it applies only to whether the thing works like it should. If N6 works like it should and N7 does as well, then both are performant, and he's right, N6 isn't any more performant because... they both work like expected.

Since N6 is a port of N7 that doesn't require retooling but does offer ~15% logic density reduction without any claims made as to speed or power draw, my guess is that it's actually performant per TSMC.

But per DrMrLordX it's not performant, because he seems to imply he expected a speed gain... I think. But he'll have to clarify.

 

[ElFenix]

Performant isn't an invented word, it already exists

you sure about that?

https://www.dictionary.com/misspelling?term=performant&s=t

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/performant

 

[ElFenix]

The K6 had higher IPC and higher clocks on integer workloads, which were the primary workloads at the time. It wasn't until the Pentium 2 that Intel took back the performance crown

P2 came out a month after the K6. (why are we talking about the P2 and K6 in 2020?)

 

[trexfromouterspace]

you sure about that?

https://www.dictionary.com/misspelling?term=performant&s=t

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/performant

Yeah.

performant

1. (of technology, etc.) working in an effective way: 2. (of technology, etc…

dictionary.cambridge.org

 

[nurturedhate]

you sure about that?

https://www.dictionary.com/misspelling?term=performant&s=t

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/performant

https://www.lexico.com/definition/performant - Oxford
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/performant - Cambridge

 

[ElFenix]

Yeah.

performant

1. (of technology, etc.) working in an effective way: 2. (of technology, etc…

dictionary.cambridge.org

see second comment:

Intel Xeon 3.6 2MB vs AMD Opteron 252 Database Test

www.anandtech.com

 

[JujuFish]

Performant isn't an invented word

Every word is an invented word. And it is a very new word, only added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2018. It still doesn't exist in the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Since N6 is a port of N7 that doesn't require retooling but does offer ~15% logic density reduction without any claims made as to speed or power draw, my guess is that it's actually performant per TSMC.

Optimized 6nm is either 2% faster or 10% lower power with an 1.18x increase in logic density.


It is definitely better to go from N7 -> N5. Unless N3 gets a perf boost, N2 will be better with any one of the three: 1D Carbon, 2D Carbon, or Stacked Silicon Nanosheet.

 

[DooKey]

Ok, I don't need 12C since I just game. I think the 5800X should be the cpu for me. Think there will be very much difference in performance for gaming between it and the 5900X?

 

[Det0x]

What memory is that you plan to run those timings on?

Binned B-die @ 1.5volt
If your looking for the exact model number, the screenshot already show that..

Current timings 3666mhz can be seen here: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...0-series-zen-3.2567589/page-215#post-40333089

 

[amrnuke]

Every word is an invented word. And it is a very new word, only added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2018. It still doesn't exist in the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

What I meant is that DrMrLordX didn't invent it. It's not new. It's been used since the mid 1800s, and more widely since computer technology / IT has exploded. Whether OED, CED, Webster, or whatever dictionary cares to add it is somewhat irrelevant. We have etymologies and clear usage patterns indicating it's been around and used for over a century.

 

[moinmoin]

Every word is an invented word. And it is a very new word, only added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2018. It still doesn't exist in the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

What's funny is that in German performant is a many decades old term mostly used in technical literature. It has no German source but etymologically is actually an adjective form of the English word performance. Now we go full circle apparently. In any case it's not invented.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, it's just going over how each CCD is now a single (8 core max) CCX versus each CCD being a 2 (4 core max) CCX design. Obviously those on this forum have known this for a while now but it's good to put out there in an official video for informing the "general public".

OK, what does CCD mean, now? It used to mean Charge Coupled Device, and they were for capturing images!

 

[moinmoin]

CCD = Core Complex Die
A CCD contains CCX = Core Complex
Complementary to IOD = Input/Output Die

Pretty boring names to be honest.

 

[scannall]

Ok, I don't need 12C since I just game. I think the 5800X should be the cpu for me. Think there will be very much difference in performance for gaming between it and the 5900X?

Probably not. And certainly not anything you'd actually see on the screen.

 

[Hans de Vries]

Geekbench 5.2 Single Threaded CPU scores:

Processor Benchmarks - Geekbench

(So this is still not Geekbench version 5.3 using VEAS which should increase the Zen 3 scores significantly.


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[Hans de Vries]

At least for the time being, and even with all the artificial handicaps...
Number 1️⃣ at ......



If you wonder where the other AMD CPU's are, click on the tumbnail:



And for some of the details:

 

[Nereus77]

Come for the Ryzen 5000 series and it's utterly dominant performance, stay for the random dictionary definitions and Pentium II discussion

 

[DrMrLordX]

why did we invent a new word form when "it doesn't offer any more performance than N7, it's lower performing than N7+" would suffice?

It's a word actually.

But per DrMrLordX it's not performant, because he seems to imply he expected a speed gain... I think. But he'll have to clarify.

The expectation was that Zen3+ - if it exists - would be N6 and would therefore perform better than N7 (or whatever N7 variant AMD is actually using), and I was essentially saying no, it probably wouldn't perform any better, based on what we know about N6. Might use less power though.

 

[Skipz]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4591800_jumper118_cinebench___r15_ryzen_5_5600x_2040_cb

More info from the person that posted this on HWBot.

Is that All-Core OC?

 

[Martimus]

Is that All-Core OC?

Yes. On air. There is a video about it here:

 

[Skipz]

Yes. On air. There is a video about it here:

Thats redacted sick! Noctua NHD-14 should be plenty for that I hope So my Ryzen 7 2700 has to finally go

Profanity is not allowed in any of the tech sub-forums.

AT Mod Usandthem

 

[Skipz]

Also this just released:

 

[inf64]

Insanity! Insert REKT jokes

All jokes aside AMD will be all around better deal in all segments for a full year, I plan on buying 5800X if I can get my hands on one.

 

[Nereus77]

Yes. On air. There is a video about it here:

I think I've found my next CPU