But again, according to other reviewers, increasing rank will be a mixed bag with Intel gaining more in some games and AMD gaining more in others and overall it's only a few percent. So it's hard to really say that this is the reason, no?
It's because they only used 2x1 config, single rank per channel to test, even in their newly posted re-test.
And they completely glossed over the current news from several other techtube channels about how it makes a significant difference.
Yep. But the biggest takeaway is just how big the difference is between gains from 10900K -> 5900X (<5%) vs gains from 5900X, 3200CL16, 2080 Ti -> 5900X, 3800CL16, 3090 (hugenormous)It's because they only used 2x1 config, single rank per channel to test, even in their newly posted re-test.
And they completely glossed over the current news from several other techtube channels about how it makes a significant difference.
TPU redid their testing folks.
The results look very different when they use an ampere GPU and fast memory.
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Remember when Zen2 was released and AnandTech showed AMD beating Intel but everyone else saying close-but-no-cigar? The pro-AMD crowd relied heavily on Anand's results until he changed them. Now the pro-Intel crowd will rely heavily on the TPU results. It's how it's done around here.TPU have completely lost it.
Remember when Zen2 was released and AnandTech showed AMD beating Intel but everyone else saying close-but-no-cigar? The pro-AMD crowd relied heavily on Anand's results until he changed them. Now the pro-Intel crowd will rely heavily on the TPU results. It's how it's done around here.
GB 5.3 Update:
Enabled PBO, rest is the same as my previous score. Interestingly, now GB3 detects 4.95GHz as max boost versus 4.75GHz when system was set to default in Overdrive.
Windows 10 Pro 2004
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4677195
Do you know PBO well? You can set it to really unleash the cpu, granted you have the cooling to support that.
Oh I know, they're inept. I am just extrapolating and predicting the Anandtech future - you know who around here are going to quote TPU as gospel now...I'm not referring to the fanboying of results but TPU's own denial of their problems in that specific reviews.
360p is certainly a new low
Try arguing Zen 2 is just as good as Skylake in commonly used resolutions and with commonly used GPUs and you'll see just how far you get. In fact wait, I'll do it for you.
At commonly used resolutions and with commonly used GPUs, the 5600X isn't just beating the 10600K, it is matching the 10700K at 1080p and every other CPU at 1440p and beyond. In other worlds we'll be looking at the following choice for gaming:
Look at the gaming performance of the 10400, 3600 and 5600X on the RTX 3090 at 1080p Ultra. Increasing resolution to 1440p or simply changing GPU with a mainstream option will immediately flatten the curve. There's no room in gaming for anything else, except when people are looking for enthusiast hardware or a mix of gaming and professional workloads.
- 10400(F) or 3600 for value shoppers with a mainstream GPU
- 5600X for high end cards
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Anybody using a 6C CPU from Intel or AMD doesn't need to upgrade even if changing GPU with some of the upcoming $250-500 class GPUs. Anyone interested in a $500+ new GPU this year should set their sights on 5600X and only consider other options if the budget allows it.
That's it. No lowres testing, no need for 10600K, 10700K, 10900K, 5800X, 5900X, 5950X.
TPU redid their testing folks.
The results look very different when they use an ampere GPU and fast memory.
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Strange Zen3 performance dip with Turing but not with Ampere:
TURING with PCIe3:
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The 5600X is a stunning CPU and I really don't understand why people hate it or put it down.
AMD put the price up a little? Okay, perhaps. But its a MASSIVE jump in performance, beating the 8 cores from the previous generation (and Intel's current gen). THEN you can tune the memory for further gains... And this is the baby in the range!
I actually also disagree with increase myself, but if I play devil's advocate here momentarily....It's because it's "only" a 6c CPU.
But again, according to other reviewers, increasing rank will be a mixed bag with Intel gaining more in some games and AMD gaining more in others and overall it's only a few percent. So it's hard to really say that this is the reason, no?
Nope, fundamentally dual rank is faster than single rank and breaking that down its either 4 single rank sticks or two dual rank. In other words you shouldn't run 2 x 8gb sticks if performance is important and TPU ran 2 x 8gb in their initial review and the revised review. They still don't fkn get it. The revised review reads like a bait and switch and a distraction.
For me personally I can't even think of buying a new PC right now as I have a new baby on the way (any day now) so its all moot for me.
BUT BUT BUT 50% MOAR PRIZEThe 5600X is a stunning CPU and I really don't understand why people hate it or put it down.
AMD put the price up a little? Okay, perhaps. But its a MASSIVE jump in performance, beating the 8 cores from the previous generation (and Intel's current gen). THEN you can tune the memory for further gains... And this is the baby in the range!
I have 1x480 EK thick radiator with 4x120mm fans and 1x360 thin with 2x120mm fans custom loop with 1.5l of coolant
Problem is, PBO doesn't want to go above 4.95GHz on one core, at least so far.
I will play some more with my system over the weekend, but I feel 1750 GB5.3 score is realistic using PBO, just need a bit more time to tweak memory.
What are your peak voltage and temperature with that cooling setup? Which CPU block are you using?