*** Official Soltek 75FRN-L/75FRN2-L (nForce2) Thread ***

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BentValve

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this guy is@225fsb on the FRN2 but his 2700+ is only@2.255ghz not that impressive for a CPU that costs 3times what ours' did. I'm not doing anything on it that uses that extra bandwidth that much so I'll take my 2.375ghz@190fsb for 87$ thanx

EDIT: I'd better shutup since some cats with the 50$ 1700+ are overclocking past us on air!


Yeah consider those 1700+ guys lucky and most of them are overvolting like mad. My 1700+ will do 2200mhz @2V so big deal.
I bought the 2100+ because I dont want to overvolt, the 2100+ is by far and away the smartest buy in chips because every one
of them does at least 2100Mhz at stock voltage.







 

BentValve

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I almost want to stockpile another 2100+ because I am afraid we will never see such a good OCer again. 700mhz
for free with zero to little extra voltage? And its not a crapshoot either, that is crazy!
 

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I think AMD will continue to bin sort CPUs and leave the capabilities to overclock them for us because they need da money getting another 2100+ isn't a bad idea regardless though that's for certain. Especially since mine was originally a 2600+ and your's was too correct?
 

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Can you manually test your rails while it is running? Your hot SB does not make sence to me.
What kinds of ram have you used so far?
 

BentValve

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Especially since mine was originally a 2600+ and your's was too correct?


What do you mean originally a 2600+? Yeah my chip is exactly the same as yours , same week and everything.
 

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So far I've used 2 256mb sticks of Crucial 2700DDR with timings by SPD and these 2 512mb sticks of Apacer 3200DDR with timings manually set to 3-3-3-6 in order for it to work :disgust: As soon as my Mushkin gets here it's going to be used in a P4 system where it runs much better.
 

BentValve

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
So far I've used 2 256mb sticks of Crucial 2700DDR with timings by SPD and these 2 512mb sticks of Apacer 3200DDR with timings manually set to 3-3-3-6 in order for it to work :disgust: As soon as my Mushkin gets here it's going to be used in a P4 system where it runs much better.

I don't know about you but I have very high expectations for this Mushkin ram considering it cost more than 50% more
than the motherboard.
I am a little nervous for tomorrow.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Considering what quality 3200DDR was going for a few months ago I'd say we can't go wrong.
 

BentValve

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Considering what quality 3200DDR was going for a few months ago I'd say we can't go wrong.


You have a point , also its entirely possibly that you could sell it for a small profit in less than a year. This cannot be said
about any other components.

 

DAPUNISHER

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Checkout this review of the Mushkin Link then take into consideration that the price was $148 shipped to Florida with tax for 2 256mb sticks and you have a winner I think this ram is definitely a hot deal! Heck they even test it dual channel by hand before shipping.

Mushkin 3200DDR Black PCB

LMAO! I love how he ends with give OCZ a chance, yeah, a fat one
 

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I liked the review you linked from CDRlabs. It was encouraging to see he was testing this board on an XP 1700 tbred A. That is exactly what I will be using with this board. Wasnt sure how it would do with the A chip as opposed to the "B". I wont be pushing my board like the 2 of you, but I do intent on cranking it up past default speeds just for the fun of it. I ordered this from googlegear last night for $89.00 shipped, then I ordered some samsung 2700 ddr. Looking forward to trying out a nforce2 board without breaking the wallet!

Thanks for the info!
 

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CPU: 1700+ "AXDA 1700 DUTC3 JIUHB0307SPMW"
RAM: Samsung 2700 256MB
HD: Western Digital 40 Gig
Video Card: ATI Radeon 8500 64MB
Mobo: Soltek FRN 75 L

Samsung Memory timing are at 6-3-3-2.5

Currently running at 166x11.5 No problems what so ever. Originally I tried to boot up at 166x12 however it would work. Then I slowly increase from default to this. Will try hitting 166x12 tonight.
 

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must resist ordering one of these boards.. what the hell's the matter with me?? i got a perfectly fast computer here.. aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!
 

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Bojax, you'll be happy with this board even running 133fsb synchronous. That's a great price too I paid $93 shipped from the egg. You are gonna be stoked so don't forget to post back with updates!

Tabb, nice setup! Don't be afraid to push the CPU core voltage up to 1.75-1.85v depending on your cooling as that CPU should do 2ghz+ for certain with extra juice. And don't sweat those memory timings they're still faster than mine right now and you can see the mem scores are still respectable though not outstanding@CL3. BTW, What PSU are you using?

Well I think I know the answer to why BentVavle and myself are having trouble hitting 200fsb........DOH! the dreaded A2 revision northbridge the new A3s are gettin' much better fsb speeds.
 

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Originally posted by: Yield
must resist ordering one of these boards.. what the hell's the matter with me?? i got a perfectly fast computer here.. aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!
it's an addiction just like drugs, alcohol, or gambling and you must support your habit and get your fix! We all must If you cave in and order try for the FRN2 because I think it has the A3 NB on it based on the FSB speeds people are already hitting on it.
 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Yield
must resist ordering one of these boards.. what the hell's the matter with me?? i got a perfectly fast computer here.. aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!
it's an addiction just like drugs, alcohol, or gambling and you must support your habit and get your fix! We all must If you cave in and order try for the FRN2 because I think it has the A3 NB on it based on the FSB speeds people are already hitting on it.

dude, you're not helping!!
yeah i seriously would love to get one.. but daaaamn, my computer is fast, it runs great.. i really only need a new video card. grr... maybe i'll get the board in april.. heh
 

BentValve

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the dreaded A2 revision northbridge the new A3s are gettin' much better fsb speeds.
>>>>>>>>>>

I would not jump to that conclusion unitil you can consistantly see 225+fsb from them. The mobo itself is not
keeping me from 200fsb..if fact I can run it at 200fsb just fine, I am sure a little extra ram voltage would give
me the stability I need.

on a side note:
I got another BSOD running 166x14 @ 1.7vcore yesterday night (2324) , I bumped up the voltage to 1.8v
and ran F@H and Prime 95 together for 12 hours and its fine.

 

BentValve

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On the other hand our Mushkin ram will kind of be going to waste if we cannot get our FSB over 211 , now that this other board is
out I wonder if we are going to see any more BIOS updates?

What specifically was changed on the newer Nforce chip? Also I have not heard of any other Nforce boards coming out with new
versions, everybody seems to either love or hates just about every Nforce board available. Most every board hits pretty high
FBS speeds but certainly not 250mhz!

Hmmm Googlegear has them for $89 shipped , I am half tempted to order one and try it out. I can always return the first one
to Newegg.
 

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I like the way you think BentValve and I ordered a Vantec iceberg cooler kit so when the Mushkin gets here I'll try for 200fsb again. I have read though that just like with CPUs that the NB on this chipset has been improved with the A3 rev. making higher FSBs possible. Some people are talking about the need for chipset voltage adjustment in the bios so if that comes in a future bios release I won't complain.

I backed my Vcore down to 1.775v to see if I can get away with it. This damned Soltek HW monitor is too damned cryptic! It has the yellow light on and when highlighted says Warning! but you can ignore it. WTF???? Is it telling me the Vcore is out of spec or what?

EDIT: @1.775v the indicator is back to working properly but the temp also dropped from 51c to 49c so I'm not sure which one is responsible for the warning.
 

BentValve

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Some people are talking about the need for chipset voltage adjustment in the bios so if that comes in a future bios release I won't complain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah too many people have the first version for Soltek to stop supporting it. Have you heard if they will allow a higher FSB as well?



I backed my Vcore down to 1.775v to see if I can get away with it. This damned Soltek HW monitor is too damned cryptic! It has the yellow light on and when highlighted says Warning! but you can ignore it. WTF???? Is it telling me the Vcore is out of spec or what?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
You VCore setting is in yellow? What is the reading?

 

DAPUNISHER

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No, the light was just yellow, then went away@1.775v with the temp drop to 49c so I don't know why that danged light came on EDIT: I'm talking about the windows utility and the 3 indicator lights on the left in case I'm confusing things and making you think I'm talking about the bios.

BTW, The fact that the A2 board has a lower fsb even with the 6week old bios sure adds fuel to the proverbial fire that it doesn't have the potential the A3 does. Perhaps it's analogous to the difference in a T-Bred A&B? I'm just speculating of course, regardless I'm stoked with a 642mhz overclock and 190fsb so I won't be selling this and buying the FRN2 just to try to get in the 3400's mem scores My P4PE does that so if I need all the bandwidth I can get for an app, program, game I'll use it to run them.
 

BentValve

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I ordered a Vantec iceberg cooler kit

Dapunisher, I think you are in denial man. I know you don't want to go thru all the trouble of returning
the board but how can you possibly explain that my board does 200fsb just fine and the SB is cool
whiles your does not do it.
You are doing somebody elses job by adding cooling to that SB, bullcrap man..either your board
is defective or my board is defective.

Yours no 200fsb hot ass SB
Mine yes 200fsb warm SB

There is no way in hell I would add cooling to my SB and I am a person who usually goes overboard
doing things, believe me , when I say the SB is cold , I mean it.
 

BentValve

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regardless I'm stoked with a 642mhz overclock and 190fsb

Yeah you have a point there but hell then it seems we wasted our dough on the Mushkin ram then
because if I wanted a 190fsb my Micron PC2700 does a fine job.

But you cannot deny that something is amiss if a guy is getting 225fsb on a board rated at 166fsb!
Either that board will die an early death or Soltek knows something that Asus, Epox and other
larger companies do not.

I am pretty sure 211mhz will be enough for me but I will be pissed off if I start hearing every
A3 board is running at 225+mhz with no sweat. .... 89 bucks could cure our curiosity right quick.

I would not return my board to Newegg but rather buy another one to run along side of this one and
then keep the better of the two boards or possibly both and sell my beloved A7V333.
 

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Many of the 8RDA+ owners use SB cooling and MARMADUKE says his was hot without cooling and it's the same chipset so I say WTH it was only 11$ shipped for the kit and I have an old vid card I can use the GPU cooler one, besides it'll look cool with the copper on there No way I'm returning this board, denial may be more than a river but it's a rock so far@190fsb and I'm not throwing in the towel just yet on 200fsb stable. Remember I still haven't lapped the NB cooler&added Shin-Etsu, I haven't stopped using the fan header, I haven't added that 4th case fan to aid in cooling the SB and reduce case temps perhaps as well, and I have higher ambient&case temps than you do. When I'm done playing if 200fsb still isn't a go I'll be satisfied with where it's@since the CPU overclock is more relevant to my needs
 
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