Official***Spiderman 2 !

[nageov3t]

I'd love th see Venom, but I couldn't see them doing it without either a) completely re-writing how Venom came to be, or b) making a really bad movie.

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: Baltazar325

Originally posted by: Chebago

Originally posted by: Baltazar325
Yeah the passing of Spiderman was cheeze and so was the part where the little girl in the fire grabbed his hand. I laughed cause it was kinda lame..However, the movie was awsome.

but it wasn't as cheesy as the slow motion MJ run in the dress to Peter's apartment, now that was bad, as for great parts, the elevator scene with the guy talking about the suit was classic, we couldn't stop laughing, definitely my favorite part.

Oh yeah. the MJ run was bad, I had forgotten about that.

omg that part was so awful.

i enjoyed the movie, but i found those scenes cheesy, plus the part where he tries to not be spiderman and they play b.j. thomas's 'raindrops keep falling on my head', and they do that freeze-frame with that big goofy smile.

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: Baltazar325

Originally posted by: Chebago

Originally posted by: Baltazar325
Yeah the passing of Spiderman was cheeze and so was the part where the little girl in the fire grabbed his hand. I laughed cause it was kinda lame..However, the movie was awsome.

but it wasn't as cheesy as the slow motion MJ run in the dress to Peter's apartment, now that was bad, as for great parts, the elevator scene with the guy talking about the suit was classic, we couldn't stop laughing, definitely my favorite part.

Oh yeah. the MJ run was bad, I had forgotten about that.

omg that part was so awful.

i enjoyed the movie, but i found those scenes cheesy, plus the part where he tries to not be spiderman and they play b.j. thomas's 'raindrops keep falling on my head', and they do that freeze-frame with that big goofy smile.

You all realize Raimi directed this film don't you? The guy who made Hercules and Xena? Not exactly meant-to-be serious moments...

 

[m2kewl]

what was with all the bs morality speeches...didn't we seen them in spiderman 1??? boo...

also stopping the train? he isn't that strong...boo...

6.5/10

 

[stickybytes]

I just saw a 10:40AM showing of spiderman 2 today. I thought the movie was awesome. This movie is better than the original in almost every way. First of all, this story is more true to the comic book. It potrays peter parkers struggles with life perfectly throught out the movie. There is also a lot of humor in this move. He drops his books and everybdoy kicks him while he's on the floor. He is about to grab a drink and someone else takes it. These things are funny but they also add to the realism of the story. It still has the fighting for all you action fans. The fight between ocatvius and spidey in the fusion place and the train was cool. But the story is where this movie shines it's best. Peter Parker/Spiderman is forced to make a decision about what his true identity is. His other half of his life suffers when he's spiderman but in the end, spider man is really who he is to meant to be. Great movie. Bravo! Now Go see it.

 

[MisterPresident]

The funniest part for me was when Doc Ock was in for surgery, and all of a sudden his arms start killing off the doctors. I couldn't stop laughing and everyone kept looking at me. Also, Ock's electrocution was quite funny as well. At first these elements seem cheezy, but I can see how it could be intentional.... I don't think the plot is supposed to be 100% realistic, and anyone who thought it would be was disspointed. The flamboyent newspaper guy was laughtastic as well.Overall this move was much better than I expected it to be.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Ok, thanks for setting me straight on JJJ son as Venom.

Personally, they need to get Venom in there ASAP I think. The Green Goblin, while they built it up well as being Peter's friend Harry, is just a sucky villain.

Some things that they need to make #3 and beyond worthwhile:

Get Venom in there ASAP

Refrain from crossovers (Spidey and Daredevil for instance). If they ever even consider putting Ben Affleck in there as Daredevil I will go frickin insane. If they must do a crossover, do it with someone good, say Wolverine, maybe.

Kingpin and the Sinister Six.

Keep the lame villains to a minimum. Green Goblin and Hobgoblin anybody?

Seriously consider going with a much darker movie with Carnage as the Villain and an R rating.

 

[Rufio]

AWESOME MOVIE!!!!!

 

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:thumbsup:

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Seriously consider going with a much darker movie with Carnage as the Villain and an R rating.

Only an idiot would suggest turning a cashcow like Spiderman into a rated R movie and losing 50%+ of it's intended audience.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Seriously consider going with a much darker movie with Carnage as the Villain and an R rating.

Only an idiot would suggest turning a cashcow like Spiderman into a rated R movie and losing 50%+ of it's intended audience.

yeah, like the 3 year old behind me that kept talking and whispering and screaming throughout the whole movie. I had forgotten why I stopped going to movie theatres. Thanks for the reminder kid. :thumbsdown:

Originally posted by: MisterPresident
The funniest part for me was when Doc Ock was in for surgery, and all of a sudden his arms start killing off the doctors. I couldn't stop laughing and everyone kept looking at me. Also, Ock's electrocution was quite funny as well. At first these elements seem cheezy, but I can see how it could be intentional.... I don't think the plot is supposed to be 100% realistic, and anyone who thought it would be was disspointed. The flamboyent newspaper guy was laughtastic as well.Overall this move was much better than I expected it to be.

You're a friggin whack-o.

Originally posted by: loki8481
I'd love th see Venom, but I couldn't see them doing it without either a) completely re-writing how Venom came to be, or b) making a really bad movie.

I have a very good idea of what Spider-Man 3 is probably going to be plot-wise, and a notion of a Spider-Man 4. post to come soon.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Ok, thanks for setting me straight on JJJ son as Venom.

Personally, they need to get Venom in there ASAP I think. The Green Goblin, while they built it up well as being Peter's friend Harry, is just a sucky villain.

Regardless, GG II will be one of the villians in the next movie.

Some things that they need to make #3 and beyond worthwhile:

Get Venom in there ASAP

Not necessary ASAP, because if venom shows up in the next one it will most likely be too busy. more to come on this in my next post.

Refrain from crossovers (Spidey and Daredevil for instance). If they ever even consider putting Ben Affleck in there as Daredevil I will go frickin insane. If they must do a crossover, do it with someone good, say Wolverine, maybe. Kingpin and the Sinister Six.

There is absolutely no way there is going to be a Daredevil crossover. Period. But the interesting point is that you want Kingpin in there. If Kingpin was in there then there would have to be a Daredevil cross over, therefore, no Kingpin, no Sinister Six. There are enough enemies to cover the number of spiderman movies they will do (I'm thinking 4-5 total)

Keep the lame villains to a minimum. Green Goblin and Hobgoblin anybody?

What is with the Hobgoblin references? There are no Hobgoblin references at all in either the first or second movies. Quit mentioning it. People are probably confusing the last part of SM2 that the Oswald kid become the hobgoblin. Incorrect as some have already pointed out, he will be the Green Goblin (2nd).

Seriously consider going with a much darker movie with Carnage as the Villain and an R rating.

not gonna happen, as Spiderman is a cash-cow, this would kill it.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Alright, here's my take on what the plot of Spider-Man 3 and will most likely be and a bit of Spider-Man 4

Lets look at what significant characters have been introduced...
Peter Parker (Spider-Man of course)
Mary Jane Watson (as herself of course)
Harry Osborn (aka Green Goblin 2)
Dr. Curt Connors (aka the Lizard) (Peter's professor urging him to do better in class)
John Jameson (aka the Wolfman, or the Man Wolf) ( J.J. Jameson's son, the astronaut, and Mary Jane's ex-fiance)

That's it really, so what do you have to go on?

Green Goblin 2
The last part of SM2 foreshadows a definate introduction of Green Goblin 2 with a transformation to insanity with Harry Osborn due to his learning that his best friend is his father's killer. This pushes him over the edge and he uses the gas he found to be become super-human.

The Lizard
With Peter Parkers grades getting better, his professor, Dr. Curt Connors, gets confidence in him and start research on limb regrowth with lizards (just as a lizard can regrow its tail if bitten off/chopped off/released). Something goes wrong and Dr. Connors uses himself as an experiment to get him arm back and bang, here's the Lizard.

The Wolfman (aka the Man Wolf)
With John Jameson being stood up at the alter, he has pit up feelings of revenge against Peter Parker, but puts them on the back burner. He makes (a) trip(s) to the moon where he picks up a virus that turns him in the Wolfman. On his way back however, a organism hitches a rid (the Venom organism).

So what's the basic plot?
Through much battle with 3 different villians, Spider-Man has to kill his once best friend, Harry Osborn (Green Goblin 2). This puts much emotional strain on Peter. A antidote is found for the Lizard to keep him in his human state. Wolfman is defeated as well, but somehow has to transfer the Venom organism to Spider-man (probably toward the end of the movie, thus leading into a Spider-Man 4, where we have Spider-Man as Venom.) With Spider-Man under the emotional strain, it is easy for the organism to take over somewhat.

But of course for SM4, we have to introduce people in SM3, such as Eddie Brock (journalist for the Daily Globe, and soon to be Venom {reintroduce in this case, credit-Ludacris (below)}), and Cletus Kasady (aka the convict that gets the Venom organism's spawn - Carnage). Cletus Kasady might not be in SM3, but definately will be in SM4.


Thoughts?
BTW, this post was entirely original based on my thoughts of the comics, and the tv series.

 

[Ludacris]

Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Alright, here's my take on what the plot of Spider-Man 3 and will most likely be and a bit of Spider-Man 4

Lets look at what significant characters have been introduced...
Peter Parker (Spider-Man of course)
Mary Jane Watson (as herself of course)
Harry Osborn (aka Green Goblin 2)
Dr. Curt Connors (aka the Lizard) (Peter's professor urging him to do better in class)
John Jameson (aka the Wolfman, or the Man Wolf) ( J.J. Jameson's son, the astronaut, and Mary Jane's ex-fiance)

That's it really, so what do you have to go on?

Green Goblin 2
The last part of SM2 foreshadows a definate introduction of Green Goblin 2 with a transformation to insanity with Harry Osborn due to his learning that his best friend is his father's killer. This pushes him over the edge and he uses the gas he found to be become super-human.

The Lizard
With Peter Parkers grades getting better, his professor, Dr. Curt Connors, gets confidence in him and start research on limb regrowth with lizards (just as a lizard can regrow its tail if bitten off/chopped off/released). Something goes wrong and Dr. Connors uses himself as an experiment to get him arm back and bang, here's the Lizard.

The Wolfman (aka the Man Wolf)
With John Jameson being stood up at the alter, he has pit up feelings of revenge against Peter Parker, but puts them on the back burner. He makes (a) trip(s) to the moon where he picks up a virus that turns him in the Wolfman. On his way back however, a organism hitches a rid (the Venom organism).

So what's the basic plot?
Through much battle with 3 different villians, Spider-Man has to kill his once best friend, Harry Osborn (Green Goblin 2). This puts much emotional strain on Peter. A antidote is found for the Lizard to keep him in his human state. Wolfman is defeated as well, but somehow has to transfer the Venom organism to Spider-man (probably toward the end of the movie, thus leading into a Spider-Man 4, where we have Spider-Man as Venom.

But of course for SM4, we have to introduce people in SM3, such as Eddie Brock (journalist for the Daily Globe, and soon to be Venom), and Cletus Kasady (aka the convict that gets the Venom organism's spawn - Carnage). Cletus Kasady might not be in SM3, but definately will be in SM4.


Thoughts?
BTW, this post was entirely original based on my thoughts of the comics, and the tv series.

Eddie Brock was introduced in Spider-Man one as a journalist. So I know Venom is coming sooner or later. Also, in the comic books, the Venom saga basically started in the Secret Wars series. I think it was issue 7 when Spider-Man got a new costume.

I would like to see a whole bunch of villians actually:

Electro
Rhino
Venom
Carnage
Vulture
Sinister Six
Scorpion
Shocker
Sin Eater (that saga would be smoking hot if they recreated it in the movies)
Black Cat (that would be an interesting love triangle)

Basically, the sky is the limit with this movie and it could have an unlimited amount of sequels. I don't think Spider-Man will fight the Green Goblin in part 3, I think that at the end of part 3 will be the start of the fight. At least I'm hoping it's this way.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: Ludacris
Eddie Brock was introduced in Spider-Man one as a journalist. So I know Venom is coming sooner or later. Also, in the comic books, the Venom saga basically started in the Secret Wars series. I think it was issue 7 when Spider-Man got a new costume.

quite right, I stand corrected, and edited my post.
I was looking at the credited actors for the movies and he wasn't one of them

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

what about that thin girl who might end up being that cat character? she got an unproportionate amount of screen time.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
what about that thin girl who might end up being that cat character? she got an unproportionate amount of screen time.

Her name in the movie was Ursula. Very odd indeed as to the best of my knowledge there was never ever an Ursula in the comic books nor the tv cartoon series.

Black Cat is Felicia Hardy, who's dad was a cat burgular (not a apartment landlord).

Unless they are really going to change the story around, she won't be Black Cat.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Alright, here's my take on what the plot of Spider-Man 3 and will most likely be and a bit of Spider-Man 4

Lets look at what significant characters have been introduced...
Peter Parker (Spider-Man of course)
Mary Jane Watson (as herself of course)
Harry Osborn (aka Green Goblin 2)
Dr. Curt Connors (aka the Lizard) (Peter's professor urging him to do better in class)
John Jameson (aka the Wolfman, or the Man Wolf) ( J.J. Jameson's son, the astronaut, and Mary Jane's ex-fiance)

That's it really, so what do you have to go on?

Green Goblin 2
The last part of SM2 foreshadows a definate introduction of Green Goblin 2 with a transformation to insanity with Harry Osborn due to his learning that his best friend is his father's killer. This pushes him over the edge and he uses the gas he found to be become super-human.

The Lizard
With Peter Parkers grades getting better, his professor, Dr. Curt Connors, gets confidence in him and start research on limb regrowth with lizards (just as a lizard can regrow its tail if bitten off/chopped off/released). Something goes wrong and Dr. Connors uses himself as an experiment to get him arm back and bang, here's the Lizard.

The Wolfman (aka the Man Wolf)
With John Jameson being stood up at the alter, he has pit up feelings of revenge against Peter Parker, but puts them on the back burner. He makes (a) trip(s) to the moon where he picks up a virus that turns him in the Wolfman. On his way back however, a organism hitches a rid (the Venom organism).

So what's the basic plot?
Through much battle with 3 different villians, Spider-Man has to kill his once best friend, Harry Osborn (Green Goblin 2). This puts much emotional strain on Peter. A antidote is found for the Lizard to keep him in his human state. Wolfman is defeated as well, but somehow has to transfer the Venom organism to Spider-man (probably toward the end of the movie, thus leading into a Spider-Man 4, where we have Spider-Man as Venom.

But of course for SM4, we have to introduce people in SM3, such as Eddie Brock (journalist for the Daily Globe, and soon to be Venom), and Cletus Kasady (aka the convict that gets the Venom organism's spawn - Carnage). Cletus Kasady might not be in SM3, but definately will be in SM4.


Thoughts?
BTW, this post was entirely original based on my thoughts of the comics, and the tv series.

saw an interview with KD, she pretty much said the next villian is going to be GG II

she also said there's only going to be a 3rd one and that's it...end on a good note

with that said, there's still a chance for venom in the 3rd one...here's how I would setup the next movie...

Something goes wrong with the space shuttle and spidey saves the day, but also takes something with him...the symbiote.

switch to harry, who is now completely insane due to the shock of knowing Peter is spidey and his father was GG. Peter and MJ gets married, which further fuel's harry's hatred for spidey.

We see how eddie was fired, and him working out religiously to dull the pains of the world. Perfecting his human body to the max.

Back to spidey, peter finds that this symbiote actually enhances his powers and uses it to his advantage.

Back to harry, he opens his father's files and finds out how to gain super-human strength through the green gas.

Back to spidey, peter starts to find out that the symbiote is trying to fuse with him permanently, so he seeks to separate with the symbiote. With much effort, spidey finally gets rid of the symbiote. However, the symbiote, now with love/hate emotions for spiderman, binds with Eddie, who was on the verge of suicide. With these extemely volatile emotions, the combination of symbiote and man, drives both to become the sinister venom.

Since hiding for several months, Harry finally uncovers the secrets and applies the green gas on himself, formally becoming GG II. With venom out on the lose, spidey never knew his best friend has now become his worst enemy.

Spidey's fight with venom is extreme, but he finally defeats venom with a sonic blaster he invented. The symbiot separates with eddie and are both locked away for good.

Peter finally gets a breather and enjoys his day off with MJ, little to his knowlege that GG II is zooming in on their location. With huge shock, peter senses danger when harry throws one of GG's bombs. This time, he was too late to save MJ, and she dies in his arms (insert extra cheese acting).

The movie ends with peter coming to terms with being a superhero and he realizes that he's going to put an end to his best friend. In the background, we hear peter saying, the price to pay to be a superhero, is sometimes too great to bear. At times, a superhero will be push to the edge and tested of his conviction. Whether he decides to stay or leave is up to him, but, with great power, comes great responsibility (we see spidey swinging to GG II, fast forward to Harry, we see him waiting for spidey). /end movie

now that would be an awesome SP3

 

[compudog]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve

If you watched the first movie with this cast, you would know he generates the web biologically versus the old comic webshooters. It's part of the package he got after being bitten by a genetically tailored spider, rather than the radioactive one of the comic books. I like the new concept better than the old one.

Me too. Much more realistic IMHO. My kids love the new Spidey.

 

[Pex]

everything back then was hit my gamma rays or some kind of ray for super powers. that's why stan lee came up with the x-men.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
with that said, there's still a chance for venom in the 3rd one...here's how I would setup the next movie...
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now that would be an awesome SP3

not bad, although I'd be disappointed not to see the wolfman or the lizard since they've already been introduced.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
with that said, there's still a chance for venom in the 3rd one...here's how I would setup the next movie...
....
....
now that would be an awesome SP3

not bad, although I'd be disappointed not to see the wolfman or the lizard since they've already been introduced.

we might be able to squeeze those bad guys in there

 

[blurredvision]

I don't understand how everyone is saying how they thought individual parts were "cheesy", as I thought the whole movie flowed nicely. Yes, even the train part. The reason they didn't sit him down in the front of the train is because half of it was hanging over the edge. The people realized he saved their lives, so they put his over their own by passing him to safety. There weren't any cross references and sh!t you guys are suggesting. This isn't the Matrix all over again.

If I had to name one "cheesy" part in the whole movie, it was the crotch comment. I'm sure Peter was that social that he felt the need to let that man know that. It seems way out of place IMO.

With that said, the movie completely rocked. Definitely better than the first, and probably will stand as the best movie of the year when it's all said and done.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I don't get it, what is so great about the Spiderman movies? They aren't ground-breaking by any means, although the visuals were pretty good in this one. I just don't see how this movie is so great. Maybe the American public is getting dumber by the minute. Movie lacks real emotion/feelings, which I guess they want since it's based off a comic book. Hard to feel any sort of connection to the characters.

 

[Ludacris]

Oh, someone said that part 3 will be the last movie and they are completely wrong. They already have up to Spider-Man 5 planned out already. They are going to milk this cow dry as long as they can and as long as they follow the comic books closely, they will be in good shape. So many great stories in the Spider-Man comics that they can't possibly go wrong.

The only way they could royally screw the movie up is by changing up the main actors kinda like how they did the Bat-Man movies.