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masterxfob

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
8>5

non call on shaq, then kobe, then a phantom call on malone. what a crock! i was hoping the refereeing wouldnt factor in like it did last year. the lakers were pulling ahead and the refs got the spurs right back into the game.

here we go with the refs thing

why cant lakers fan ever admit they lost plain and simple? i mean there were blown calls on both sides

lol, you're the dolt that always brings up the refereeing when the lakers win. i don't think anyone can take you seriously, you obviously have a biased opinion due to your scorn of the lakers.

as for me, i think the lakers lost because of shaq's lack of energy in the second half, which was due the spurs defense.
 

Turkish

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May 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: josphII
8>5

non call on shaq, then kobe, then a phantom call on malone. what a crock! i was hoping the refereeing wouldnt factor in like it did last year. the lakers were pulling ahead and the refs got the spurs right back into the game.

edit: oh yeah, and the bs technical on kobe

:roll:

CRY ME A RIVER YOU LAKERS FANBOI :roll:

This is all Lakers can do. Cry. Cry. Cry.

:roll:
 
Apr 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
8>5

non call on shaq, then kobe, then a phantom call on malone. what a crock! i was hoping the refereeing wouldnt factor in like it did last year. the lakers were pulling ahead and the refs got the spurs right back into the game.

here we go with the refs thing

why cant lakers fan ever admit they lost plain and simple? i mean there were blown calls on both sides

lol, you're the dolt that always brings up the refereeing when the lakers win. i don't think anyone can take you seriously, you obviously have a biased opinion due to your scorn of the lakers.

as for me, i think the lakers lost because of shaq's lack of energy in the second half, which was due the spurs defense.


i mention it in passing but i dont say team X lost because of bad calls. there will always be missed calls and a fan of a particular team is bound to dwell on them, its natural. it can be a factor in a loss, but i usually isnt a big factor or the most important factor

josphII has a legit point in that there were blown calls cuz there was. but it wasnt the reason for the loss

and i'm sure you are anyone else here isnt biased towards the lakers
 

trmiv

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I'm a laker fan through and through, but the Lakers just plain sucked in the 4th. No contributions from Gary or Karl at all. Poor decision making, and they stopped playing D. Pitiful
 

Dragnov

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NBA refs are horribly inconsistent. Thats their major problem.

However, refeering though being inconsistent, did not factor into this game. (Especially seeing as neither can make freakin FT's). Please don't generalize us Lakers fun w/ this guy.

Lakers deserved to lose this game. And if they don't pick up their play they deserve to lose the series. I get so frustrated watchign them because they just don't live up to their abilities.

Gary Payton can't defend anybody. I haven't seen one great defensive game from him this entire SEASON. He hasn't had a good offensive game to boot either.

Shaq can't defend the pick and roll at all. Most of the time I see him blocking his own player when coming out on the screen. Then hes too slow to get back. And theres no excuses for THAT poor FT shooting.

The only players I see really doing much are Karl (though he is one hell of a dirty player) and Kobe (who ends up ballhogging because his teamates can't do much).
 

arod

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Originally posted by: trmiv
I'm a laker fan through and through, but the Lakers just plain sucked in the 4th. No contributions from Gary or Karl at all. Poor decision making, and they stopped playing D. Pitiful

THIS is why the Lakers lost not the refs..... I know everybody (when their team loses) tries to blame the loss one something other than the players but this one rests SQUARELY on the players. With their starting 5 they have no buisness losing to anybody. Which is why its soo sweet to watch them go down to a team that I like. I dont have a fav team since where I am located in the state of Texas I live about 3 hrs from Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio so I root for them all.
 

josphII

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Nov 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
8>5

non call on shaq, then kobe, then a phantom call on malone. what a crock! i was hoping the refereeing wouldnt factor in like it did last year. the lakers were pulling ahead and the refs got the spurs right back into the game.

here we go with the refs thing

why cant lakers fan ever admit they lost plain and simple? i mean there were blown calls on both sides

such as...

there were more than a few non foul calls on Duncan and several when parker got into the lane. there was a particular one that stands out, it was in the second quarter i think. Parker drives the lane, shaq completly thrashs him, he goes flying into the ground and nothing...


the reason the lakers lost was because the spurs D was just to good, forcing turnover after turnover and miss after miss in the 4th. not the refs

well i find this hard to believe because if shaq so much as breaths on opposing teams gaurds a foul is always called. i think the refs are actually being trained on this. gaurd A jumps into the chest of shaq and shaq gets whistled - happens all the time. steve francis is the best at this play.

the only thing close to a foul that wasnt called on duncan is when kobe stripped the ball from him. i guess that could have been a foul but they didnt show a good angle so i dont really know. of course after kobe stole the ball duncan fouled him out of frustration and it wasnt called. so best case scenario there were two non calls one right after another

the lakers didnt play especially well, but they turned in on in the 2nd half only to have bad calls ground them. the spurs played ok i guess. hopefully game 2 will be better all around
 
Apr 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
8>5

non call on shaq, then kobe, then a phantom call on malone. what a crock! i was hoping the refereeing wouldnt factor in like it did last year. the lakers were pulling ahead and the refs got the spurs right back into the game.

here we go with the refs thing

why cant lakers fan ever admit they lost plain and simple? i mean there were blown calls on both sides

such as...

there were more than a few non foul calls on Duncan and several when parker got into the lane. there was a particular one that stands out, it was in the second quarter i think. Parker drives the lane, shaq completly thrashs him, he goes flying into the ground and nothing...


the reason the lakers lost was because the spurs D was just to good, forcing turnover after turnover and miss after miss in the 4th. not the refs

well i find this hard to believe because if shaq so much as breaths on opposing teams gaurds a foul is always called. i think the refs are actually being trained on this. gaurd A jumps into the chest of shaq and shaq gets whistled - happens all the time. steve francis is the best at this play.

the only thing close to a foul that wasnt called on duncan is when kobe stripped the ball from him. i guess that could have been a foul but they didnt show a good angle so i dont really know. of course after kobe stole the ball duncan fouled him out of frustration and it wasnt called. so best case scenario there were two non calls one right after another

the lakers didnt play especially well, but they turned in on in the 2nd half only to have bad calls ground them. the spurs played ok i guess. hopefully game 2 will be better all around


well, i guess its how you see the call. unfortunately, i dont have it on tape anywhere to be able to review it...
 

josphII

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Nov 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense
 

gunblade

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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
8>5

non call on shaq, then kobe, then a phantom call on malone. what a crock! i was hoping the refereeing wouldnt factor in like it did last year. the lakers were pulling ahead and the refs got the spurs right back into the game.

here we go with the refs thing

why cant lakers fan ever admit they lost plain and simple? i mean there were blown calls on both sides

such as...

there were more than a few non foul calls on Duncan and several when parker got into the lane. there was a particular one that stands out, it was in the second quarter i think. Parker drives the lane, shaq completly thrashs him, he goes flying into the ground and nothing...


the reason the lakers lost was because the spurs D was just to good, forcing turnover after turnover and miss after miss in the 4th. not the refs

well i find this hard to believe because if shaq so much as breaths on opposing teams gaurds a foul is always called. i think the refs are actually being trained on this. gaurd A jumps into the chest of shaq and shaq gets whistled - happens all the time. steve francis is the best at this play.

the only thing close to a foul that wasnt called on duncan is when kobe stripped the ball from him. i guess that could have been a foul but they didnt show a good angle so i dont really know. of course after kobe stole the ball duncan fouled him out of frustration and it wasnt called. so best case scenario there were two non calls one right after another

the lakers didnt play especially well, but they turned in on in the 2nd half only to have bad calls ground them. the spurs played ok i guess. hopefully game 2 will be better all around

I would say Spurs played poorly this game but still was much better than lakers and deserved the win. In the end, Shaq wasn't anywhere to be found and Duncam just got 4 in a roll. I wonder why lakers didn't try to help out when Duncam got hot. It just seems everyone is standing and watched whoever guard Duncam got torn apart.
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

yeah right. the Spurs are one of the top defensive teams in teh league, my friend.
 

arod

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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

Final 1 2 3 4 T
Lakers 14 19 32 13 78
Spurs 21 20 21 26 88

Yeah the Spurs D sucked in the first and second quarter too. The reason LA did so well in the 3rd was kobe not missing shots which freed other people up.
 

josphII

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Nov 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: arod
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

Final 1 2 3 4 T
Lakers 14 19 32 13 78
Spurs 21 20 21 26 88

Yeah the Spurs D sucked in the first and second quarter too. The reason LA did so well in the 3rd was kobe not missing shots which freed other people up.

so what are you saying? it was the spurs strategy to give karl wide open looks? payton missed some gimmes too in the first half. the lakers were just tight in the first half. we'll see in game 2 how things go
 

masterxfob

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May 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: josphII
8>5

non call on shaq, then kobe, then a phantom call on malone. what a crock! i was hoping the refereeing wouldnt factor in like it did last year. the lakers were pulling ahead and the refs got the spurs right back into the game.

here we go with the refs thing

why cant lakers fan ever admit they lost plain and simple? i mean there were blown calls on both sides

lol, you're the dolt that always brings up the refereeing when the lakers win. i don't think anyone can take you seriously, you obviously have a biased opinion due to your scorn of the lakers.

as for me, i think the lakers lost because of shaq's lack of energy in the second half, which was due the spurs defense.


i mention it in passing but i dont say team X lost because of bad calls. there will always be missed calls and a fan of a particular team is bound to dwell on them, its natural. it can be a factor in a loss, but i usually isnt a big factor or the most important factor

josphII has a legit point in that there were blown calls cuz there was. but it wasnt the reason for the loss

and i'm sure you are anyone else here isnt biased towards the lakers

what have i said that could be considered a biased opinion from a lakers fan?
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: arod
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

Final 1 2 3 4 T
Lakers 14 19 32 13 78
Spurs 21 20 21 26 88

Yeah the Spurs D sucked in the first and second quarter too. The reason LA did so well in the 3rd was kobe not missing shots which freed other people up.

so what are you saying? it was the spurs strategy to give karl wide open looks? payton missed some gimmes too in the first half. the lakers were just tight in the first half. we'll see in game 2 how things go

what are you saying? the fact that San Antonio is one of the top defensive teams in the league has nothing to do with it? If it weren't for LA's big 3rd quarter, the Lakers would have been blown out.
 

masterxfob

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May 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: arod
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

Final 1 2 3 4 T
Lakers 14 19 32 13 78
Spurs 21 20 21 26 88

Yeah the Spurs D sucked in the first and second quarter too. The reason LA did so well in the 3rd was kobe not missing shots which freed other people up.

so what are you saying? it was the spurs strategy to give karl wide open looks? payton missed some gimmes too in the first half. the lakers were just tight in the first half. we'll see in game 2 how things go

what are you saying? the fact that San Antonio is one of the top defensive teams in the league has nothing to do with it? If it weren't for LA's big 3rd quarter, the Lakers would have been blown out.

iamme: please excuse the fanboy, he obviously has very little knowledge of basketball.
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: arod
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

Final 1 2 3 4 T
Lakers 14 19 32 13 78
Spurs 21 20 21 26 88

Yeah the Spurs D sucked in the first and second quarter too. The reason LA did so well in the 3rd was kobe not missing shots which freed other people up.

so what are you saying? it was the spurs strategy to give karl wide open looks? payton missed some gimmes too in the first half. the lakers were just tight in the first half. we'll see in game 2 how things go

what are you saying? the fact that San Antonio is one of the top defensive teams in the league has nothing to do with it? If it weren't for LA's big 3rd quarter, the Lakers would have been blown out.

iamme: please excuse the fanboy, he obviously has very little knowledge of basketball.

i've noticed the difference between an objective fan and a homer becomes apparent when your team loses.
 

josphII

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Nov 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: arod
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: InstincT
It's the Spurs defense... I dont' think the Lakers can handle it.

nah karl was just missing shots in the first half. he had a bad game like he did in game 1 vs houston. and the lakers got 36 points in the 3rd quarter. it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

Final 1 2 3 4 T
Lakers 14 19 32 13 78
Spurs 21 20 21 26 88

Yeah the Spurs D sucked in the first and second quarter too. The reason LA did so well in the 3rd was kobe not missing shots which freed other people up.

so what are you saying? it was the spurs strategy to give karl wide open looks? payton missed some gimmes too in the first half. the lakers were just tight in the first half. we'll see in game 2 how things go

what are you saying? the fact that San Antonio is one of the top defensive teams in the league has nothing to do with it? If it weren't for LA's big 3rd quarter, the Lakers would have been blown out.

iamme: please excuse the fanboy, he obviously has very little knowledge of basketball.

i've noticed the difference between an objective fan and a homer becomes apparent when your team loses.

yeah and when the lakers win the series are you gonna cry like the kings fans two years ago? note: the lakers had to overcome horrendous anti-laker officiating in that series so im confident that if it happens they can overcome it in this series
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: josphII
it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

what are you saying?

can you not read or are you being redundant on purpose?

i was giving you a chance to retract your homer statement.

yes, the Lakers failing to score 20 points in 3 out of the 4 quarters has NOTHING to do with the Spur's defense.

The Lakers committing 21 turnovers to the Spurs 15 has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

The Spurs 11 steals to the Lakers 5 has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

The Lakers shooting 37.7% FG to the Spurs 46.8% has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

i guess i'm just being biased.
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: josphII

yeah and when the lakers win the series are you gonna cry like the kings fans two years ago? note: the lakers had to overcome horrendous anti-laker officiating in that series so im confident that if it happens they can overcome it in this series

it has nothing to do with being anti-Lakers. it has everything to do with you being a blinded homer.
 

masterxfob

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May 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: josphII

yeah and when the lakers win the series are you gonna cry like the kings fans two years ago? note: the lakers had to overcome horrendous anti-laker officiating in that series so im confident that if it happens they can overcome it in this series

it has nothing to do with being anti-Lakers. it has everything to do with you being a blinded homer.

josephII: i was born and raised right here in socal and so i say, i'm a huge lakers fan. through thick and thin, all the anti-lakers BS, and the horrible team chemistry after losing jerry west, i'm still a lakers fan.

that said, i'm going to say this, i care little for lakers fans such as yourself. you're the type of fan that never gives what is due, always complains about the refereeing, and makes the real fans look bad. any lakers fan that can say the spurs D wasn't great today, is a FANBOY!
 

Ludacris

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If the Spurs hit 10 of their missed free throws, they would have won by 20. That's including the big Laker surge in the 3rd. Spurs missed at least 14 free throws the entire game.

The Spurs didn't play too well either so the Lakers should be very afraid.

Bottom Line:

Gary and Karl are old and busted. Karl has the tough guy act down but he is soft as toilet tissue. He takes FADE AWAY jump shots. Does that sound like an aggressive player? Nope. That's exactly why he never did beat the Bulls in the finals because he is a chump. It's funny watching him do his show boating after he pulls the chair. It'll be funnier when he is forced into retirement after this series.

Gary Payton can't guard a turtle. He constantly bitches and moans about playing time yet he does absolutely nothing when he is out there. How the hell does he start over Fisher? He is a scrub and his market value dropped drastically this year.

Lakers Bench? They have no bench. Manu Ginoboli outscored the Lakers bench today by himself. You have to laugh.

Overall: The Lakers are worse talent wise than they were last year. On paper, the names sound good. In realit, they lack athleticism, depth and youth which is their downfall.
 
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