OFFICIAL: SPURS vs LAKERS, 3rd game TODAY at 12:30 PST!!

[erikiksaz]

So many "if" statements

Sheesh, it's only game one, calm down. No need to start any serious commentary.

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: Ludacris
Gary and Karl are old and busted. Karl has the tough guy act down but he is soft as toilet tissue. He takes FADE AWAY jump shots. Does that sound like an aggressive player? Nope.

I'm sorry that argument makes not sense. He has always had that fade away jump shot and thats his staple. Hakeeom Olojuwan had that fade away jump hook, so does that make him a soft/weak player? You can say Karl Malone is a dirty player, theres not arguing that but if you think hes soft, thats just absurd.

Gary Payton can't guard a turtle. He constantly bitches and moans about playing time yet he does absolutely nothing when he is out there. How the hell does he start over Fisher? He is a scrub and his market value dropped drastically this year.

I can agree with you on this. WHen he hits free agency after his season I don't know anyone whose going to pay much for him.

Lakers Bench? They have no bench. Manu Ginoboli outscored the Lakers bench today by himself. You have to laugh.

People always talk about this every season about the Lakers. I think its a moot point after winning 3 championships. Sure it can always help but the team can manage and has managed.

Overall: The Lakers are worse talent wise than they were last year. On paper, the names sound good. In realit, they lack athleticism, depth and youth which is their downfall.

The Lakers are better this year than last year. But I think theres even less team chemistry than last year. And thats not just about players getting along with each other, but rather their type of play.

And if Shaq hit his FT's this game would have been closer. But guess what, he didn't. Just as Duncan didn't. Put you laker-hater fanboyism aside. Much of your arguments are very weak. The Spurs played better basketball and won. Thats all there is to it.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: erikiksaz
So many "if" statements

Sheesh, it's only game one, calm down. No need to start any serious commentary.

 

[Lyfer]

Lakers suck. Thats my analysis.

 

[Ludacris]

Karl Malone used to play more aggressive in every game other than the NBA Finals. He used to take it to the rack strong. Now, he is all about the fade away. How you gonna get Duncan in foul trouble taking fade aways? Funny how he can't do much of anything when someone puts a hand in his face. That 30 point game he had against the Rockets is the exception not the norm. By the way, the Rockets blew 2 games in that series, but that is another story.

The Lakers 2004 remind me of the Spurs in 2001 in which the Lakers swept them. Lakers exposed the age and lack of athleticism of the Spurs that year and now it is role reversal.

If the Lakers keep Kobe and Shaq together and get some youth and athleticism around them, they will be contenders for years to come. As of right now, their championship era ended last year with Kobe crying.

Bench defanitely is a factor this time. Lakers are looking tired against that tenacious defense and fresh legs of the Spurs.

 

[Staples]

Spurs won by 9. I know someone who says Spurs will win in 6, I think in 4 is more like it.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Look today Lakers just didn't get any production from their bench players. In the past it was fine because Kobe and Shaq could always pick up the slack, but the Spurs are just too damn good for that to work anymore. We needed SOME production from either Malone or Payton, which we didn't get.
It is kind of a shock to me that not one bench player was able to step up this game, considering how well they have been playing throughout the playoffs. In the end, I think both teams missed a crapload of freethrows, but individually Shaq just has to raise his percentage. As long as the Lakers can steal one on the road against San Antonio we should be ok. We are a much better home team.
Also keep in mind that up until the 4th quarter the Lakers were in control of the game. San Antonio just had a late surge, which swung the game over their way. Usually it's the other way around, with the Lakers coming back in the 4th.

 

[Ludacris]

Actually, the reason why they can't score is because they are being played straight up and every shot is contested. The Lakers bench looked ok against the Rockets because they got open looks. Rockets should have been up 3-1 in that series by the way.

You also forget that the Spurs are an excellent road team. Last year they even closed out the Lakers on the road. Don't be surprised if the Lakers lose in 4 or 5 games this year.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Staples
Spurs won by 9. I know someone who says Spurs will win in 6, I think in 4 is more like it.

the spread was 5

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Ludacris
Actually, the reason why they can't score is because they are being played straight up and every shot is contested. The Lakers bench looked ok against the Rockets because they got open looks. Rockets should have been up 3-1 in that series by the way.

You also forget that the Spurs are an excellent road team. Last year they even closed out the Lakers on the road. Don't be surprised if the Lakers lose in 4 or 5 games this year.

I totally agree.

the spurs is the best defensive team in the nba right now. Shaq cant even dominate... at best he have to shoot FTs, which he suck at doing..

on the other hand, if the spurs made 50% of their FT, they wouldve annihilated the lakers

GO SPURS!

 

[Ludacris]

Oh, the Lakers didn't come close to controlling the game. They lost every quarter except the third and fell apart in the fourth. I look forward to game 2.

It's gonna be nice watching Phil Jackson get humbled 2 years in a row. Talk about ego. Most coaches around the NBA respect each other and some are close friends. Phil doesn't have any friends and nobody wants to hire his assistants either.

 

[masterxfob]

it's funny how so many people that live in SoCal are lakers haters. it's also funny how every lakers hater is actually just jealous of the three championships the lakers won. what other reason would there be to hate them? the lakers sucked throughout the 90's, no one was hating on them then :Q

Lakers Haters = Jealous

 

[SmoochyTX]

As much as it pains me, "Go Spurs!"

Hey, better a Texas team than any other team.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: masterxfob
it's funny how so many people that live in SoCal are lakers haters. it's also funny how every lakers hater is actually just jealous of the three championships the lakers won. what other reason would there be to hate them? the lakers sucked throughout the 90's, no one was hating on them then :Q

Lakers Haters = Jealous

jealous? hardly..

I hate the cocky attitude that shaq has..

its good a team like spurs can humble them

also I am a kings fan at heart... but I find it hard for them to win the championship

 

[arod]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
As much as it pains me, "Go Spurs!"

Hey, better a Texas team than any other team.

Ha, the advantage between being up here in College Station, really dallas, houston and SA are all close enough for me to root for them all

 

[Ludacris]

I agree. It's some of the Lakers attitudes that causes people to dislike them.

1. Phil Jackson is an egotistical ass that puts down fans, teams, cities, and coaches. Hell, his own star player doesn't like him.

2. Shaq is an overwieght jack-ass that thinks he is the best thing on the planet. Only reason he is so good is because he is an overgrown mutant.

3. Gary Payton is the biggest whiner I have ever seen. He picks fights with Hubie Brown for crying out loud! How the hell do you try to fight a 70 year old man?

4. Malone is a dirty player and loves to showboat. Funny how he showboated today and walked away with a loss.

It will be enjoyable watching them take a paycut only to leave the playoffs early. They even talked about winning 70 games this season. Bunch of jack asses.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: josphII

it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

what are you saying?

can you not read or are you being redundant on purpose?

i was giving you a chance to retract your homer statement.

yes, the Lakers failing to score 20 points in 3 out of the 4 quarters has NOTHING to do with the Spur's defense.

The Lakers committing 21 turnovers to the Spurs 15 has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

The Spurs 11 steals to the Lakers 5 has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

The Lakers shooting 37.7% FG to the Spurs 46.8% has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

i guess i'm just being biased.

everytime a team doesnt shoot the ball well its 100% because of the other teams defense

:roll:

 

[masterxfob]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: masterxfob
it's funny how so many people that live in SoCal are lakers haters. it's also funny how every lakers hater is actually just jealous of the three championships the lakers won. what other reason would there be to hate them? the lakers sucked throughout the 90's, no one was hating on them then :Q

Lakers Haters = Jealous

jealous? hardly..

I hate the cocky attitude that shaq has..

its good a team like spurs can humble them

also I am a kings fan at heart... but I find it hard for them to win the championship

so let me get this straight. you're a kings fan, but you're rooting for the spurs, right? why are you rooting for the spurs? does it have anything to do with you not liking the lakers? maybe because the lakers beat the kings in the western finals a couple years back? which was actually the true finals/champioinship series?

as for shaq's piss poor attitude, you're a terd. there are quite a few players out there that have crappy attitudes, but you choose to single out shaq. let me list a few:

steve francis - refused to play in canada, demanded a trade before even playing a single nba game.
rasheed wallace - likes throwing towels at teammates.
allen iverson - thinks he's too good for practice, his teammates are the ones that need the practice.
keith van horn - threatened to retire after he was traded, boohoo.
latrell sprewell - likes to choke coaches.

shaq may be cocky, but that doesn't apply to the rest of the team. if the spurs beat the lakers, they're not humbling anybody. i never heard the lakers going out and saying they'd take the spurs out, phil jackson hasn't even said anything like that.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: masterxfob

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: masterxfob
it's funny how so many people that live in SoCal are lakers haters. it's also funny how every lakers hater is actually just jealous of the three championships the lakers won. what other reason would there be to hate them? the lakers sucked throughout the 90's, no one was hating on them then :Q

Lakers Haters = Jealous

jealous? hardly..

I hate the cocky attitude that shaq has..

its good a team like spurs can humble them

also I am a kings fan at heart... but I find it hard for them to win the championship

so let me get this straight. you're a kings fan, but you're rooting for the spurs, right? why are you rooting for the spurs? does it have anything to do with you not liking the lakers? maybe because the lakers beat the kings in the western finals a couple years back? which was actually the true finals/champioinship series?

as for shaq's piss poor attitude, you're a terd. there are quite a few players out there that have crappy attitudes, but you choose to single out shaq. let me list a few:

steve francis - refused to play in canada, demanded a trade before even playing a single nba game.
rasheed wallace - likes throwing towels at teammates.
allen iverson - thinks he's too good for practice, his teammates are the ones that need the practice.
keith van horn - threatened to retire after he was traded, boohoo.
latrell sprewell - likes to choke coaches.

shaq may be cocky, but that doesn't apply to the rest of the team. if the spurs beat the lakers, they're not humbling anybody. i never heard the lakers going out and saying they'd take the spurs out, phil jackson hasn't even said anything like that.

hmm its a long story why I hate the lakers

its kinda personal... its between me and a friend of mine

and no I am not getting into it

 

[Ludacris]

The reason why the other players aren't mentioned is because this thread is about Spurs and Lakers.

Phil Jackson has already put down the city of San Antonio recently and talked smack about the Spurs in prior series. Go read the LATimes to see quotes.

You also single out Shaq. What about Kobe? Gary Payton picking fights with 70 year old Hubie? Come on man. Most of that team is a disgrace to professional sports.

Be honest about it man. I know that's your team, but don't sit here and say that they don't talk trash and act like asses. We all see it and read about it every other day.

 

[masterxfob]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: josphII

it has nothign to do with the spurs D and everything to do with the lakers offense

what are you saying?

can you not read or are you being redundant on purpose?

i was giving you a chance to retract your homer statement.

yes, the Lakers failing to score 20 points in 3 out of the 4 quarters has NOTHING to do with the Spur's defense.

The Lakers committing 21 turnovers to the Spurs 15 has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

The Spurs 11 steals to the Lakers 5 has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

The Lakers shooting 37.7% FG to the Spurs 46.8% has nothing to do with the Spur's defense.

i guess i'm just being biased.

everytime a team doesnt shoot the ball well its 100% because of the other teams defense

:roll:

it can't be the spurs D, it was just a fluke, right? i mean, the spurs D was the best in he NBA this year, they did it night in and night out. i guess they just got real lucky this season :roll:

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: masterxfob
it's funny how so many people that live in SoCal are lakers haters. it's also funny how every lakers hater is actually just jealous of the three championships the lakers won. what other reason would there be to hate them? the lakers sucked throughout the 90's, no one was hating on them then :Q

Lakers Haters = Jealous

well, nobody is really gonna hate you when you are not winning. all the hate comes when you are on top. i actually was a laker hater in the 90's as well, but it was because i was a huge a jordan fan.

 

[Splork]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
go spurs go!

-sp

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: masterxfob

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: josphII

yeah and when the lakers win the series are you gonna cry like the kings fans two years ago? note: the lakers had to overcome horrendous anti-laker officiating in that series so im confident that if it happens they can overcome it in this series

it has nothing to do with being anti-Lakers. it has everything to do with you being a blinded homer.

josephII: i was born and raised right here in socal and so i say, i'm a huge lakers fan. through thick and thin, all the anti-lakers BS, and the horrible team chemistry after losing jerry west, i'm still a lakers fan.

that said, i'm going to say this, i care little for lakers fans such as yourself. you're the type of fan that never gives what is due, always complains about the refereeing, and makes the real fans look bad. any lakers fan that can say the spurs D wasn't great today, is a FANBOY!

puh-lease. ive been following the lakers for close to 15 years. i followed them post magic. i followed them when they missed the playoffs and then drafted two pretty good players the next couple of years in nick van excel and eddy jones. and ive certainly followed them the last several years. the fact of the matter is for whatever reason the league has made it more difficult on the lakers over the last few years. perhaps it was the way they won their first two championships - being too dominant. first it was the zone defense rule put in place to help teams gaurd shaq. for those of you that remember the lakers vs kings first round series in 2000 you know what im talking about. then it was a change in how the games were refereed. no longer would shaq be allowed to just turn and shoot, this is now an offensive foul. this started two years ago and was evident to any laker fan that had watched their first two championchips and it was very evident to the players. shaq stated during the teams 3rd championship that he was once told that every team has to overcome an obstacle to win the championship and that that year it was the refs. remember earlier in the year when a referee was suspended by the league for making a bad call that went in favor of the lakers? thats no coincedence. if that would have happened vs any other team it would have been a non issue. but the lakers are held to a higher standard and they are given no freebees. now the refereeing in this most recent game wasnt so bad but 4 very bad calls against the lakers seized their momentum and the game was lost. did the lakers deserve to win? no. quite frankly neither team deserved to win this game.

 

[masterxfob]

Originally posted by: Ludacris
The reason why the other players aren't mentioned is because this thread is about Spurs and Lakers.

then stop talking about the previous series between the lakers and the rockets

Phil Jackson has already put down the city of San Antonio recently and talked smack about the Spurs in prior series. Go read the LATimes to see quotes.

you're talking about previous years in the playoffs? that's just plain stupid. lakers were dominant a few years ago and they could talk trash, but they're not so dominant now. do you see them talking trash now?

You also single out Shaq. What about Kobe? Gary Payton picking fights with 70 year old Hubie? Come on man. Most of that team is a disgrace to professional sports.

who likes baseball? martinezz vs. zimmer ring a bell? who likes football? ray lewis murder trial? don't give me some stupid crap about kobe being a rapist, you don't hate the lakers cuz he nutted on some whores face. what about vlade, the man who invented the flop? webber likes to take money from college boosters, and also commits perjury. yeah, that's why i don't like the kings :sarcasm;

Be honest about it man. I know that's your team, but don't sit here and say that they don't talk trash and act like asses. We all see it and read about it every other day.

wtf are you talking about? has any lakers said anything during this years playoffs about the spurs? the lakers themselves knew that they might be in for a heap of trouble against the spurs, that's why nobody has been talking. i'd really like to see what you're reading