**OFFICIAL** Star Wars: The Old Republic Thread

[BenSkywalker]

Sorry but you're flat wrong... I've played and been in competitive PVP and raiding guilds in every MMO since day one of UO..

And you can't differentiate a healer from a straight dps in a BG? Kind of curious how that ended up being the case, if you have that level of MMO experience?

and yes we tested this extensively and I was not the only one to notice that most DPS companions could chew through 2 mobs before the player could kill 1..

Soccerman was(still is?) one of the top dps players in the world.

I'm flat tired of the WoW raiding attitudes.. must have x DPS must have x achievement.. must have x rotation.. must have x gearscore..

That sounds like a PUG spam. If your guild is looking for that from a member, they aren't elitists, they are scrubs.

When guilds get so fucking competitive that friends get dumped from a raid beacsue another rogue was 3% better than him... and you can only have so many rogues per raid that's flat retarded..

And you would join a competitive guild why? If you want to be in a casual guild, be in a casual guild. It isn't complicated. If you want to be in a competitive guild, then that is what you end up with. Is that elitist? I certainly don't think so. One isn't better then the other, it is a different frame of mind towards the game. Join a guild that fits with what you want to do. Are you going to be part of a guild with world/server firsts and a casual attitude? No. If your goal is to have fun playing with your friends, why does that matter to you. If you are in a casual guild and they are doing that, they are bad and you should join a new guild, one that better suits your interests.

if SWTOR ever turns into this.. I will quit MMOs forever..

The problem is you. Don't play with people that are focused on speed and progression. It really is that simple. Find a laid back guild that is focused on having fun. Their were several thousand of them in WoW, I'm sure their will be in SWTOR too. I can assure you that there are going to be min/max raid based guilds in TOR, I'm already in one, but that doesn't mean that you have to play that way. Get in guild with people who are focused on having fun and enjoy yourself. If you don't want to be competitive, don't be. Noone is forcing you to.

I was in one of those elitist guilds at the time though. Let me tell you it was annoying as hell. The amount of ass you had to kiss to get gear. Even using the DKPS or point system that the guild would come up with didn't mean squat. Especially if you just joined.

Don't join a DKP guild if you don't like DKP. This isn't complicated.

This reminds me, are all raid loots thus far dropped, or is there also a system where everyone in the raid gets a certain type of "raid currency" that can be saved up to buy gear?

Yes, there are currencies that drop from raids as well as five mans. If you participate enough in raids, you will be able to get gear even if you don't win any rolls/have enough DKP.

Now, as for giving the tank every minor upgrade, I did see that a lot, but remember I played on FV, the all tradeable server. In my guilds, some of them had official procedures that when you got an upgrade, you turned in your old gear for disbursement to someone else and some guilds people did it voluntarily, but either way, I firmly believe, based on 5 years experience on that server, in the all-tradeable concept. It worked and it did not cause people to not start new toons. In fact, the knowledge that I could start a new toon and, once I managed to reach high level, not have to spend 2 years raiding on it to get equipped helped keep me making more toons, otherwise I would not.

You trying to make sure there are a plethora of gold farmers? Unfortunately, that is the problem with doing things this way. And it isn't one that I haven't seen a way to work around.

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

Yes, there are currencies that drop from raids as well as five mans. If you participate enough in raids, you will be able to get gear even if you don't win any rolls/have enough DKP.



You trying to make sure there are a plethora of gold farmers? Unfortunately, that is the problem with doing things this way. And it isn't one that I haven't seen a way to work around.

1. Hm, nice! This reminds me...on the historic analysis side...what kinds of things is TOR starting with, such as this, that MMOs 11 years ago took years to patch in?

2. I think it's better to have a market for good gear and also have gold farmers than to have no market at all because good gear can't be sold and can only be destroyed when superseded by other gear.

 

[Jules]

Canceled my Collectors edition as i just couldn't justify the $150 for it. Thinking of getting the regular or digital deluxe. What you guys think?

 

[CVSiN]

And you can't differentiate a healer from a straight dps in a BG? Kind of curious how that ended up being the case, if you have that level of MMO experience?

Um yeh like I've played every single class and every single spec in 6 months... and for the record there are multiple ways to spec including split specs so how can anyone know what spec he is fighting 100% sure anyway... I can tell you someones a sorc but hard to say what spec when both the healer and the DPS can kill you with lightening just as easy

Soccerman was(still is?) one of the top dps players in the world.

wtf is soccerman and why the fuck should I care if he is TOP in a NON COMPETITIVE game? I sure as fuck dont care who or what kinda uber fucking dork he is.



That sounds like a PUG spam. If your guild is looking for that from a member, they aren't elitists, they are scrubs.

That is every day stuff you hear in WoW these days.. and not everything you do is with a guild you know?



And you would join a competitive guild why? If you want to be in a casual guild, be in a casual guild. It isn't complicated. If you want to be in a competitive guild, then that is what you end up with. Is that elitist? I certainly don't think so. One isn't better then the other, it is a different frame of mind towards the game. Join a guild that fits with what you want to do. Are you going to be part of a guild with world/server firsts and a casual attitude? No. If your goal is to have fun playing with your friends, why does that matter to you. If you are in a casual guild and they are doing that, they are bad and you should join a new guild, one that better suits your interests.

Because that's the kind of player I was before this stupid shit started becoming the norm in the last couple expansions?



The problem is you. Don't play with people that are focused on speed and progression. It really is that simple. Find a laid back guild that is focused on having fun. Their were several thousand of them in WoW, I'm sure their will be in SWTOR too. I can assure you that there are going to be min/max raid based guilds in TOR, I'm already in one, but that doesn't mean that you have to play that way. Get in guild with people who are focused on having fun and enjoy yourself. If you don't want to be competitive, don't be. Noone is forcing you to.

Well no shit Sherlock? already done... and have been.. the problem is the attitude spread in WoW to encoumpass the general community to the point it became an antisocial cesspool

Don't join a DKP guild if you don't like DKP. This isn't complicated.



Yes, there are currencies that drop from raids as well as five mans. If you participate enough in raids, you will be able to get gear even if you don't win any rolls/have enough DKP.



You trying to make sure there are a plethora of gold farmers? Unfortunately, that is the problem with doing things this way. And it isn't one that I haven't seen a way to work around.

See above..

 

[s44]

Stephen Reid confirms that forum access tomorrow will open immediately to everyone with a pre-order, not on a rolling basis according to actually getting early access:

Seventh: The Forums will be back up for all who have redeemed a pre-order code just before 7AM EST (AKA, Early Game Access start).

 

[Nintendesert]

So will I be able to sit down in the chairs on my starship?

 

[jlarsson]

So will I be able to sit down in the chairs on my starship?

If I recall correctly, the captain's chair worked that last beta weekend .

 

[paperfist]

Canceled my Collectors edition as i just couldn't justify the $150 for it. Thinking of getting the regular or digital deluxe. What you guys think?

Depends on if you want extra stuff, here's a comparison:

http://buy.swtor.com/us/

 

[Soccerman06]

See above..

Would you rather have me brag about a competitive game like when I played Cal Pro in CSS or would you prefer a mmo style competitive game like WoW? I kept asking on the forums why people were being outdpsed by companions and never got a true response other than "they are just better than us." I would ask specs and they would give some random 5/5/5 spec. Yes, mara kinds sucked between 25-35, but they were never below their companions. Jaessa and vette will always be a hot topic, but once jaessa's ravage was finished she really didnt have much else to offer. I dont care if your a little kid or a baddie or just dont care and want to be your own special way, but if people who are good at the game can easily double their companions dps, why buff the class so others can feel special. The designers have a set way to get the maximum potential out of the spec and huge spreadsheets on how each spec works. This game may be designed for people of all ages, but they are not going to change the entire talent specs because some people cant figure out to go down the entire talent tree first before spreading out the other talents. Same goes with ability rotation.

You want to know why you should care? Because if someone like me who has actually spent time looking into specs and testing them out, playing multiple builds, many different games, and repeatedly outdpsed their companion 2:1, I would think you would listen when I say its the bads and not the class. Annihilation sucks, shared tree sucks, pick the other one and get the obvious dps talents, pick up the couple first talent in annihilation after you finish carnage.

Yes the problem is you CVSiN, in more ways than one.

btw ben, I stopped playing wow after we killed heroic arthas.

 

[sushicide]

How the heck do you parse in SWTOR anyway? Just a genuine question.

 

[jcurry5]

The last I knew there is not a damage parser for SWTOR so I'm not sure how he's calculating DPS of other members.

 

[s44]

Forums are up.

 

[Mem]

Forums are up.

Nope,

SWTOR.com is temporarily unavailable as we are experiencing extremely high traffic. Please check back again soon!

Leider ist die Star Wars: The Old Republic-Website momentan nicht erreichbar. Versuchen Sie es später erneut.

Nous sommes désolés, mais le site web Star Wars: The Old Republic n'est pas disponible actuellement. Veuillez réessayer ultérieurement.

 

[Beev]

Nope,

It keeps alternating. The site is up then it's not.

 

[J-Money]

First wave of emails sent out 2 minutes ago.

Praying I get one.

Pre-ordered day one.

EDIT: Havent gotten email yet but I can log in and play WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[HumblePie]

Some of my guild are in and playing. I wasn't first day So they are moving down the list activating accounts slowly from day one.

 

[Rebel_L]

I had to wait for my preorder code for almost a week, I wonder how long its going to take to get to me, I had figured they would dump the first few 100K preorders in at the start and then ramp up from there but it looks like they are going fairly slowly by the sounds of it if some first day folks are not in yet.

if anyone wants to see the west coast initial server list I can post it, I the page open still but the site seems pretty messed up right now

 

[BlazinTy]

Please do Im here at work and would like to see what west coast servers are available for later.

 

[ZaneNBK]

I misread the early access e-mail from a week ago and thought I was getting in this morning. I'm not. Grrr.

 

[Mem]

First wave of emails sent out 2 minutes ago.

Praying I get one.

Pre-ordered day one.

EDIT: Havent gotten email yet but I can log in and play WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I hope I don't get mine until late tomorrow,got an appointment for today and Dentist tomorrow.

 

[Trell]

I received my early access email at 7:35... Too bad I am at work until 3:30 still.

 

[Rebel_L]

This was shortly before the site overload, I looked at the east coast list but didnt save it, it was longer though

Here is the current list of US West Coast (PST) servers. This list will be updated throughout Early Access and Launch as we open more servers.

PvE - English

• Hyperspace Cannon
• Lord Praven
• Mask of Nihilus
• Master Zhar Lestin
• Space Slug
• The Harbinger
• The Jekk'Jekk Tarr
• Vornskr

PvP - English

• Black Vulkars
• Daragon Trail
• Dark Reaper
• Mandalore the Indomitable
• Nadd's Sarcophagus
• Rakata Mind Prison
• The Crucible Pits
• The Swiftsure
• Warriors of the Shadow
• Wound in the Force

RP-PvE - English

• Begeren Colony
• Vrook Lamar

RP-PvP - English

• Ajunta Pall

 

[BlazinTy]

Thanks

 

[ZaneNBK]

Here are the current East Coast servers from their forums:

PvE - English
Canderous Ordo
Corellian Run
Darth Bandon
Drunk Side Cantina
Giradda the Hutt
Grand Master Zym
Jedi Covenant
Juyo
Kaas City
Keller's Void
Krayt Dragon
Mind Trick
Shadow Hand
Shii-Cho
Sith Meditation Sphere
Sith Wyrm
Tarro Blood
The Shadowlands

PvP - English
Anchorhead
Belgoth's Beacon
Bondar Crystal
Davik's Estate
Death Wind Corridor
Hedarr Soongh
Helm of Graush
Iron Citadel
Kinrath Spider
Naddist Rebels
Port Nowhere
Prophecy of the Five
Saber of Exar Kun
Sword of Ajunta Pall
Terentatek
The Fatman
The Twin Spears
Veela
Vulkar Highway

RP-PvE - English
Lord Adraas
Rubat Crystal
Shien
Sanctum of the Exalted
The Ebon Hawk

RP-PvP - English
Jung Ma

 

[Beev]

Bleh. Day 1 and still not in.

Edit: IN!