**OFFICIAL** Star Wars: The Old Republic Thread

[s44]

They reported 10 million subscribers.

Never. Go back and check the exact wording.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition

World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.

Most recent count is at 10.2 million

http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/02/09/world-of-warcraft-subscriber-numbers/

 

[s44]

Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers.

Ok, you're right on this. Heh, I didn't think they'd be so deceptive.

Chinese guys paying in tiny bits once have nothing at all to do with you and I paying $15/month recurring.

Just when I was moving beyond BM PvP gear, I have no one to play against.

What time? Heck, last night the 2-3am warzone shift was on again.

The imps may have stopped queuing for a while in the afternoon when a bunch of really good Republic groups were out...

 

[KentState]

I think it was good yesterday after the patch. No longer do you have to win 3 to get the daily done. This weekend, I struggled to PvP much at any point between 8am and around 3pm. I would love to give up the PvP all together and focus on Ops but my schedule doesn't permit.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

Now that I've gone to the DPS Sorc spec I'm going to try out some warzones this weekend.

 

[s44]

Now that I've gone to the DPS Sorc spec I'm going to try out some warzones this weekend.

So how'd it go?

DPS Sorc/Sage still has all the tools to be a very effective mobile/kiting class, but you get whacked fast in the 50s bracket if you stand and trade.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

Didn't have much time this weekend to do much except attempt EV HM. Had three snipers and myself as ranged DPS. No Melee. That might be our issue as we couldn't get the first boss down, even with the snipers popping their shield and us DPSing during the multiple missile phase. We hit the enrage timer every time. So it's sort of a head scratcher for us. After five attempts I called the raid, hit up the Ops dummy on Ziost Shadow and uploaded my DPS Log to DPSmeter.com as I had no real data to work off of.

I think I have to work on my rotation a bit. 4/5 Columi Force Master w/ Force Mystic headpiece, Columi Focus, Columi relics and according to my DPS log, I'm pulling only, on average, about 700DPS. This was against the dummy on the Ziost Shadow, and I only went through my rotations for about 5 minutes. Peak was about 1000.

My rotation: Affliction --> Force Lightning til Wrath procs --> Deathfield --> Crushing Darkness (Instant cast) --> Force Lighting til Wrath procs --> Lightning Strike

EDIT: Here is the DPSMeter.com link: http://dpsmeter.com/ship0shrimp

 

[darkewaffle]

If I ever got to PVE DPS on my sorc I think I'd want to see what you could do with a bunch of alacrity and simply spamming Lightning Bolt and CL procs lol.

 

[TheUnk]

Didn't have much time this weekend to do much except attempt EV HM. Had three snipers and myself as ranged DPS. No Melee. That might be our issue as we couldn't get the first boss down, even with the snipers popping their shield and us DPSing during the multiple missile phase. We hit the enrage timer every time. So it's sort of a head scratcher for us. After five attempts I called the raid, hit up the Ops dummy on Ziost Shadow and uploaded my DPS Log to DPSmeter.com as I had no real data to work off of.

I think I have to work on my rotation a bit. 4/5 Columi Force Master w/ Force Mystic headpiece, Columi Focus, Columi relics and according to my DPS log, I'm pulling only, on average, about 700DPS. This was against the dummy on the Ziost Shadow, and I only went through my rotations for about 5 minutes. Peak was about 1000.

My rotation: Affliction --> Force Lightning til Wrath procs --> Deathfield --> Crushing Darkness (Instant cast) --> Force Lighting til Wrath procs --> Lightning Strike

EDIT: Here is the DPSMeter.com link: http://dpsmeter.com/ship0shrimp

I have a sage with only 2 columi pieces and some bm gear. My DPS is about the same as yours...

If you doing the madness tree, it's the same as my balance tree. I get 2 cast-time spells that turn insta cast when my throw procs. One of them, Disturbance (maybe your lightning strike?), isn't a DoT. During boss fights I never use that ability. It's garbage. It takes too much force and does less damage than force lightning/throw. It's only good for on-the-move damage. If you are rotating that in, see if you do better without it.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

I'm the Madness/Lightning Hybrid spec (1/12/28).

 

[s44]

Three geared Snipers should tear through anything, though it's harder for them to get the all-important 136- or 140-rated mainhand because they don't dual-wield. (I suggest they just get Battlemaster if Karagga drops haven't been nice to them.) Are they using Orbital every cooldown?

 

[Sentrosi2121]

Pretty much. It was like a Planetside back door attack with defender OS's going off every 5 seconds.

 

[TheUnk]

Three geared Snipers should tear through anything, though it's harder for them to get the all-important 136- or 140-rated mainhand because they don't dual-wield. (I suggest they just get Battlemaster if Karagga drops haven't been nice to them.) Are they using Orbital every cooldown?

Maybe they are just bad players.. I can't count the HM FPs I've been in where the other DPS has way better gear than me, yet somehow my parser shows me doing 50% or more of the total damage on boss fights. Which means they are doing 30-40% cause it's not like the tank is going to do 0 dmg.

 

[s44]

They took away our warzone tauntauns!

 

[Sentrosi2121]

Went into KP last night and FINALLY got past the puzzle boss. We ran the puzzle with me (Sorc DPS) running the left and center consoles and a sniper holding down the right one. It was my first time running the puzzle and, at first, I was doing it by myself. So the first few attempts we hit the enrage timer, which isn't good. So we brainstormed and came up with what was eventually the way for us to solve it. We just kept bouncing him between the center and right consoles.

But my DPS is still lacking. Does anyone have any hard numbers that I need to hit being a DPS spec'd Sorc? I hear everything from 1100 all the way up to 1500 and I have no idea how to accomplish that with my Columi gear.

I haven't touched any of the mods yet because the two theorycrafters in my guild said that I'm pretty much geared correctly for the fights.

In hindsight healing was a lot easier than this. But I wanted a challenge.

 

[darkewaffle]

Make sure you've got 70-75% surge, 30%ish base crit, and stack power iirc; alacrity in that build is pretty low priority as well as the only thing that benefits from it is Force Lightning. I don't think you need any accuracy as I believe Force and Tech attacks have 100% accuracy; and in my logs with very little accuracy on my gear I -never- miss a Tech attack as Powertech, I would imagine it works the same way for you but I'm not 100% on that either.

Also it doesn't hurt to max affection and complete all the conversations on your companions on at least one character, which will give you a innate +1% crit, +1% surge, +1% healing received, +1% HP, and +1% accuracy iirc on all characters in your legacy. Willpower stim is always good as well.

 

[mattpegher]

A bit further on the light dark question. It seems that you can not have light 1 and dark 1 and be overall neutral. The stat calculates the overall and you only get penialized for making the minority choices.
Last night my light side sith made a few selfish discisions and got his light 1 reduced to neutrality. He lost the buffs from 2 peices of gear that were equiped that required the light 1.
So there really is no up side to neutrality, versus the gear that you can get by maximizing light or dark.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

I thought I read somewhere that 'eventually' Bioware was going to customize neutral gear much the same way light/dark would. But I'm not sure how they would implement that.

 

[a123456]

There's no set rotation but more a priority list. So whatever is highest on the list is what you cast if it's up.

1. (Wrath) Crushing Darkness
2. Affliction
3. Death Field so your Affliction ticks hit harder
4. Force lightning

#1 should be used on cd since it's pretty much always up and you're just waiting for the cd on it. Refresh #2 every 21s. Use #3 on cd. #4 is if nothing else to do. The hasted FL is at #3.5 so it's not on the list since it's the same as priority 4.

One of the things with this build is that you must have affliction up at all times and don't clip it early or you just waste a global cd. You can also DoT multiple targets for more procs but only if the targets are going to stay alive for more than 20s.

Also don't double dip force lightning if you are. They fixed it or whatever and it can cause a net dps loss right now because it gives you 2 ticks instead of 4 for the force lightning and has weird alacrity issues. If you have no idea what this means, then ignore it.

I haven't done a combat dummy ever, but on Bonetrasher, I think I was hitting around 1000ish with a few pieces of Rakata. Also don't get too discouraged about the 1500s stuff. They're usually full raid buffs and counting 1 or more -armor debuffs on the target.

 

[s44]

So there really is no up side to neutrality, versus the gear that you can get by maximizing light or dark.

There isn't any light/dark gear worth having when you hit 50. Before that one relic will be alignment-limited, but the matrix cube isn't. At 50 all endgame gear -- including the Champion relic you should buy immediately from the Recruit PvP vendor -- is alignment-neutral.

 

[ArchAngel777]

There isn't any light/dark gear worth having when you hit 50. Before that one relic will be alignment-limited, but the matrix cube isn't. At 50 all endgame gear -- including the Champion relic you should buy immediately from the Recruit PvP vendor -- is alignment-neutral.

Before I had my augmented battlemaster full set, I viewed the 'Heavy Gunner's Boots' as a complete neccessity for the trooper. Those are pretty much the ONLY boots of that type. All the other ones follow the same template as 'Stalwart Defenders' and with the new unify color match, it makes going light essential if you want a decent looking trooper in custom gear.

I also made my Jedi the same exact way, all in trooper armour and the 'Heavy Gunner's Boots' are an absolute must, IMO. Combine those with the L26 RD-14A scout gloves and then get a crafter make helm, chest and legs and you have a matching set of complete custom trooper armour by L27 for either Jedi or a Trooper. So there are perks out there, you just have to make sure you know what you want ahead of time. And for those who don't know much about the game, custom armour allows you to customize the stats to a certain extent. That means I can put Jedi Guardian/Might armor and mods into the pieces.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

Here is my latest DPS meter: Rotation Optimization III
My rotation was as follows:
1. Affliction
2. Force Lightning
3. Death Field
4. Force Lightning til Wrath procs
5. Crushing Darkness
6. Force Lightning til Wrath procs
7. Lightning Strike
8. Rotate back to 1.

Not sure if I should open with Affliction, Death Field and the Force Lightning til it procs, then hit Crushing Darkness to get all my DoTs down first. But I find that this may be a great opener, but keeping a DoTs on the target at all times means that one or two will be lagged by a second or two. I was attempting to spread out the DoTs so that there was always a DoT on the target at all times.

 

[a123456]

I think in general you know what to do. Hybrid build sorc is one of the easiest rotations in the game, probably.

There's probably some fine tuning down the line as you play it more, especially in movement-heavy fights where you can't really do a set rotation because precise timings will get screwed up from having to avoid circles on the ground, etc.

As for the opener, usually you can cast Crushing Darkness first since you have the time out of combat to channel it and not affect dps. Then, Affliction, FL, FL, Death Field or something along those lines.

To maximize the last few dps, you ideally want to cast Death Field right after the Crushing Darkness DoT expires so more Affliction ticks use the Deathmark debuff. That's because Affliction ticks do more damage than CD ticks. And since CD and DF have the same cd, you can do it every time in theory.

 

[s44]

Before I had my augmented battlemaster full set, I viewed the 'Heavy Gunner's Boots' as a complete neccessity for the trooper. Those are pretty much the ONLY boots of that type. All the other ones follow the same template as 'Stalwart Defenders' and with the new unify color match, it makes going light essential if you want a decent looking trooper in custom gear.

Heh heh, looks are another story. But 1.3 is bringing a pile of craftable orange boot/glove shells, and some of them should have that appearance.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

Thanks for your help a123456. Bonethrasher is one of those movement intensive fights. I can't reliably lay down DF because of his movement. But if I keep CD and Aff up on him and spam FL and perhaps throw down DF when he starts to do his swipe/crushing blows I can maximize my DPS that way.

We're doing SM/HM EV on Sunday night then on Monday night we're attempting our first full clear of SM KP. Some of up and coming raiders are taking the SM spot from me as I only lack the Columi belt, which doesn't drop in EV. I'm hoping that in SM our one sniper who has the worst luck can finish out his Columi set. The one run he missed out on we had a fresh 50 get 4/5 Columi in EV and the sniper rifle off of Soa. The unlucky sniper only has 1/5. The rest of his set he has 3/5 BM and one Tionese belt.