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Anomaly1964

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I've basically quit playing now

Probably won't start back til they raise the level cap and have more story and maybe not even then...
 

KeithTalent

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Didn't you say that last week? :hmm:

I'd like to be playing more, but I'm just too busy right now.

KT
 

Worthington

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Did you run all the Ops? They are definitely worth the time, especially with a sociable group.

Pretty much this. I'm unsubscribed but I still have time left on my account. I pretty much just log in to raid since I really like the people I've met. I'll let the free month carry me into GW2 and then assuming the beta weekends go as well as people expect most of them will be playing that with me.
 

darkewaffle

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I really like the new warzone, the mechanic that allows only the team with two turrets to 'progress' and stalling out the opposition creates a really enjoyable, new dynamic where your team is never truly 'out of the game' unlike Civil War. Last night we had a really great one where we were behind pretty quickly by something like 30-80 but we ended up winning with something like 20 points left, was a ton of fun having it come down to the wire like that and turning it around, especially on Vent.

Also the change they made to Voidstar (and the 'quick win' and objective medals in general) are great; they encourage people to play for the victory (and a fast one at that) rather than encouraging 'medal farming'. Win or lose, I like that Voidstar doesn't have that 'waste' time attached to it any longer and I love that winning Huttball in five minutes is no longer shooting yourself in the foot.

For anyone that's played on the PTS, does it wipe? There's a few things about 1.2 I wish I'd actually 'known' ahead of time that you just don't notice in such extensive patch notes but would have saved me some time/WZ commendations. So I'm thinking about rolling a character there in order to have a better vantage point for 1.3 and beyond.

I went into 1.2 with 4 BM commendations just sitting unused in my inventory; really wish I'd bought a second relic and my weapon prior to the patch lol.
 

dougp

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Last night I finished my class quest line at lvl 46 - I *ahem* leveraged the friendly forces while I fought Rakton and his elite guard. After getting Rakton to 37% while using Heroic Call and 50% without it, I figured I'd need to leverage them for him. His elite guard is no question given their heals - I was hoping to solo him though but for the sake of time, I wanted to finish it up. Now I'll just finish up questing on Corellia and leveling by warzones.
 

marlinman

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Up until now, I've been rerolling whenever one of my chars is killed. I play many SP games in this way, but I'm not sure I can sustain this approach in an MMO (TOR is my first).

A couple of questions I have:

- was it entirely possible for one's char to suffer unavoidable death during the Rakghoul plague outbreak?

- during the Esseles FP, one of my chars died by falling into a 'bottomless' pit. I automatically respawned near the quest-giver back at the fleet. Is this standard practice when a group member dies during a FP? Or did the lack of a corpse make a difference?

Answers appreciated, as are any reasons why the "reroll on death" approach is absurd in this game.
 

kyonu

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- was it entirely possible for one's char to suffer unavoidable death during the Rakghoul plague outbreak?

Yes. If you got infected you will explode after about 20 minutes in a large green nova, infecting anyone near you. Was pretty baller.
 

zinfamous

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Yes. If you got infected you will explode after about 20 minutes in a large green nova, infecting anyone near you. Was pretty baller.

i blew up/suicided off a platform a millionbillion times during the event.


this is how <--this noob now has 600k liquid credits, and 3 baller crystals.

 

kyonu

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i blew up/suicided off a platform a millionbillion times during the event.


this is how <--this noob now has 600k liquid credits, and 3 baller crystals.


Yeah I got 2 +41 Power crystals and about 20 customizations... only 2 that I could use
 

darkewaffle

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Answers appreciated, as are any reasons why the "reroll on death" approach is absurd in this game.

Definitely would not recommend doing that in an MMO. Death is essentially part of the game, and if you reroll every time you're gonna be miserable.

When you die in a flashpoint or operation but you cannot be resurrected or you have to 'release' (respawn) you will be respawned at the entrance to that FP/OPs typically. For instanced areas (quest areas normally) you will die and respawn at the nearest "Medical Center".
 

Zenoth

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Bummer... I downloaded I don't know how many GBs since the past couple of hours to realize only once the whole thing had downloaded that the week-end pass (4 days trial) offer was over since the 23rd. I was totally expecting to sign in to give the game a try, meh. I'll keep the whole thing installed for the principle of not uninstalling something that just ate almost half of my monthly download limit.

I'm a sad panda today.
 

RiDE

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Bummer... I downloaded I don't know how many GBs since the past couple of hours to realize only once the whole thing had downloaded that the week-end pass (4 days trial) offer was over since the 23rd. I was totally expecting to sign in to give the game a try, meh. I'll keep the whole thing installed for the principle of not uninstalling something that just ate almost half of my monthly download limit.

I'm a sad panda today.

PM your email... ill send you a 7 day trial invite.
 

datalink7

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What are the PVP servers like vs. PVE in this game? I know the techincal difference but some MMO's have different atmospheres than others for PVP. I remember having a lot of fun in WoW PVP server, but Age of Conan was a continual gankfest that wasn't fun.
 

RiDE

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What are the PVP servers like vs. PVE in this game? I know the techincal difference but some MMO's have different atmospheres than others for PVP. I remember having a lot of fun in WoW PVP server, but Age of Conan was a continual gankfest that wasn't fun.

You won't see the other faction until you're around level 20-25 or so. That's pretty much the earliest a level 50 can grief 'lowbies'. If you're looking for PVP like Tarren Mill/Southshore or Ganklethorne Vale you won't find it here. They keep you separated most of the time.
 

darkewaffle

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The worlds are pretty expansive (well, the later ones at least) and the quest hubs are numerous and fairly spread out so even 'shared' planets you don't see a ton of the enemy on in my experience. Some planets are completely inaccessible by them, like the starter planets and I think Taris/Balmorra as each faction gets their own 'instance' of those two.

Cleared Denova last night, the final boss was actually easier than expected. When reading about the fight it sounds like it's going to be much longer and more arduous than it actually is, so I'm not sure if our DPS are finally getting their act together or if that's just symptomatic of 'normal' mode. Either way, looking forward to hard mode and the 'story quest' that you complete there has a pretty goddamn cool cutscene at the end of it, it actually makes me want to know what's going on and curious about the potential story behind future operations.

I would love to see some larger scale bossfights, (though after clearing the instance it does make more sense to save something like that for more than 'just' Kephess) something like Lady Vashj or Kaelthas in Tempest Keep. One thing I thought WoW did actually do very well was create those long, intricate, and ultimately very rewarding encounters.

Also really appreciate the combat logging. It's still a little wonky though it's hard to say whether that's the fault of the parser or the log itself, but whenever we 'merged' ours on MrRobot last night we ended up showing incorrect numbers of attempts for some encounters and the 'threat' calculation seems to be way way off as well as a few other bugs, but it's nice to finally see some idea of damage dealt/damage taken/miss rate/etc.
 

Sentrosi2121

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I take it you guys were geared in mostly Rakata for Explosive Conflict? I'm wondering where my guild stands as far as being able to be complete EC.

I've thought it over and I am going to be dropping my healspec sorc and go with the Hybrid Madness/Lightning DPS spec. Have a couple of new 50s coming up, one an Operative and another BH healspec. I figure a few trips into EV/KP getting geared and I should be set. What is everyone's experience with the Sorc DPS builds?
 

darkewaffle

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More Columi than Rakata in general and still a decent bit of Champion/Battlemaster gear. I've been tanking on my PTech and was still rocking two pieces of champion gear, tionese relic/shield and crafted level 49 implants/earchip/belt for the majority of EC until I got a helm and enough Blackhole Commendations to replace an implant last night.

I'd say the only real gear check is the first boss, as it's pretty healing intensive even on "Story" mode but it's possible we don't have the mechanics of it quite right either.

Second boss is more a matter of coordination and a moderate DPS check; it sounds worse than it is once you've gotten to put a few attempts on it.

Third boss is mostly a puzzle, so as long as you don't panic and dont get cleaved you shouldn't have any real problems with that either.

Final boss is again a matter of coordination and communication, though some of the enemies that are part of the encounter can put out some really high [aoe] damage its avoidable/possible to keep it focused on the tanks for the most part. Though if you lose a single DPS along the way it will probably difficult to kill the 'bomb carriers' since they need to be burnt down fast.
 

KidNiki1

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man, we had Vorgath (that puzzle boss) bug out on us sooo many time the other night. what a pain in the butt. it's one thing to just mess stuff up, but it's kinda annoying when you are doing everything correctly and the game just wigs out on you.
 

Sentrosi2121

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Sounds like we could give it a shot next week then. EV is farm mode for us now and we can usually clear it in an hour. Would love to get KP down to an hour which would give us two hours the next day to raid EC.
 

darkewaffle

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man, we had Vorgath (that puzzle boss) bug out on us sooo many time the other night. what a pain in the butt. it's one thing to just mess stuff up, but it's kinda annoying when you are doing everything correctly and the game just wigs out on you.

We actually haven't had any problems with it yet fortunately, the door to it did seemingly open on it's own for us once but hard to know if someone just didn't want to own up to accidentally clicking it either lol. Aside from Pylons and Soa I don't think we've had hardly any issues with operations bugs in any of the instances.
 

KidNiki1

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We actually haven't had any problems with it yet fortunately, the door to it did seemingly open on it's own for us once but hard to know if someone just didn't want to own up to accidentally clicking it either lol. Aside from Pylons and Soa I don't think we've had hardly any issues with operations bugs in any of the instances.

it was my first time doing the fight, as well as one other guy. the other 6 though had done it several times before. i think we wiped 5 (maybe 6) times, and two of those times were actually because someone messed up (drunk raiders and the other new guy who didnt bother to watch any vids on the fight ) everyone else who knew the fight kept saying that it was bugging out. the tank that was at the top figuring out the puzzle kept saying he was finding the droid, but nothing appeared for us on the ground to fight. im sure if someone was messing up they would have said something. thats the only time i have ever had anything like that happen in an ops run. ive had a few flashpoints bug out to all hell tho. i hope next time we dont have that happen.
 
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