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herkulease

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Now I see some people are starting to talk about the clock management. Have any press conferences been held with any of the coaching staff of the Eagles where that question was asked? I'm really curious as to why they fvcked themselves over.

I'm waiting for that too. Would it have changed the results? dunno but it would've atleast given the Eagles more time to work with than 46 seconds where they have to rush to do things. and have to throw deep balls to get down field. I believe they wasted at least 2 minutes.
 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
2 points:

1) our "pro bowl" secondary played like absolute garbage.
2) absolutely dreadful clock managemt.

this game was there for the taking, the eagles gave it away. pathetic.

Your Eagles offense couldn't do sh!t against 2 rookie corners and a bench warming rookie safety. Now THAT is pathetic. You guys were screwed b/c you couldn't stop the run worth crap.

The 2 rookie corners didn't do sh*t you fvcking dumbass. The 2 picks were by harrison and bruschi. McNabb threw for 350 yards.

Stopping the run? All their big gains were on completions that shouldn't have happened and those garbage dink & dunk passes. It was our secondary that was at fault.

Did you even watch the game?

Awwwwww is someone mad because his team lost? Figures. And what I said was your team didn't take advantage of the corners more. It was pathetic. Brady would have eaten you guys alive with rookie corners. Hell Vick would have. And um, stopping the run means you could have provided more men in coverage while having minimal prescence on the line. Obviously with Dillon you couldn't do that.

I'm not sure with your rage and the fact that you probably have an X-acto blade next to your wrists that you're thinking clearly, so instead of shouting insults you should try taking a breath or two to calm down.

McNabb threw for over 350 yards, what more do you want against the corners?

Stopping the run? Dillon had 75 yards. Hardly impressive for a team that lead most of the 2nd half.

The problem was with the pass coverage, plain and simple. Rip them all you want.

I think you are still too angry.
 

aplefka

Lifer
Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: aplefka
Now I see some people are starting to talk about the clock management. Have any press conferences been held with any of the coaching staff of the Eagles where that question was asked? I'm really curious as to why they fvcked themselves over.

I'm waiting for that too. Would it have changed the results? dunno but it would've atleast given the Eagles more time to work with than 46 seconds where they have to rush to do things. and have to throw deep balls to get down field. I believe they wasted at least 2 minutes.

I wasn't really watching the clock that closely until it was about 3:04 left and I saw the clock was still running and they were still going to a huddle and not even rushing to the line. When did that possession start clockwise?
 

Albis

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May 29, 2004
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even though i didn't want NE to win, the game was fun to watch

compared to last year's boring game, this game was exciting and lots of great yelling at the tv
 

Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
2 points:

1) our "pro bowl" secondary played like absolute garbage.
2) absolutely dreadful clock managemt.

this game was there for the taking, the eagles gave it away. pathetic.

Your Eagles offense couldn't do sh!t against 2 rookie corners and a bench warming rookie safety. Now THAT is pathetic. You guys were screwed b/c you couldn't stop the run worth crap.

The 2 rookie corners didn't do sh*t you fvcking dumbass. The 2 picks were by harrison and bruschi. McNabb threw for 350 yards.

Stopping the run? All their big gains were on completions that shouldn't have happened and those garbage dink & dunk passes. It was our secondary that was at fault.

Did you even watch the game?

Awwwwww is someone mad because his team lost? Figures. And what I said was your team didn't take advantage of the corners more. It was pathetic. Brady would have eaten you guys alive with rookie corners. Hell Vick would have. And um, stopping the run means you could have provided more men in coverage while having minimal prescence on the line. Obviously with Dillon you couldn't do that.

I'm not sure with your rage and the fact that you probably have an X-acto blade next to your wrists that you're thinking clearly, so instead of shouting insults you should try taking a breath or two to calm down.

McNabb threw for over 350 yards, what more do you want against the corners?

Stopping the run? Dillon had 75 yards. Hardly impressive for a team that lead most of the 2nd half.

The problem was with the pass coverage, plain and simple. Rip them all you want.

I think you are still too angry.

How about instead of saying I'm too angry, you try arguing one of my points? Or is that too difficult?
 

herkulease

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Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: aplefka
I wasn't really watching the clock that closely until it was about 3:04 left and I saw the clock was still running and they were still going to a huddle and not even rushing to the line. When did that possession start clockwise?

5:40 from there own 21. the drive consumed 3:52 off the clock.
 

gflores

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Jul 10, 2003
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The reason McNabb had over 350 passing yards is because he passed the ball 51 times! That's what happens when they can't run the ball. Unfortunately, if you just focus on passing the ball, you're going to commit interceptions, and that's what McNabb did.

Two key points to the Patriots victory:

1. Turnovers. Whether or not the Pats forced them, they happened, like they always do. The Pats have force the other team to lose and solemnly commit turnovers themselves.
2. Rushing game. The Eagles were completely shutout in the rushing game. The Pats had more than 100 yards rushing allowing for a balanced offense.
 

aplefka

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Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: aplefka
I wasn't really watching the clock that closely until it was about 3:04 left and I saw the clock was still running and they were still going to a huddle and not even rushing to the line. When did that possession start clockwise?

5:40 from there own 21. the drive consumed 3:52 off the clock.

Wow. I thought they got it with about 4:45 left but that's a full 55 seconds extra. I just don't understand what they were thinking.
 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
2 points:

1) our "pro bowl" secondary played like absolute garbage.
2) absolutely dreadful clock managemt.

this game was there for the taking, the eagles gave it away. pathetic.

Your Eagles offense couldn't do sh!t against 2 rookie corners and a bench warming rookie safety. Now THAT is pathetic. You guys were screwed b/c you couldn't stop the run worth crap.

The 2 rookie corners didn't do sh*t you fvcking dumbass. The 2 picks were by harrison and bruschi. McNabb threw for 350 yards.

Stopping the run? All their big gains were on completions that shouldn't have happened and those garbage dink & dunk passes. It was our secondary that was at fault.

Did you even watch the game?

Awwwwww is someone mad because his team lost? Figures. And what I said was your team didn't take advantage of the corners more. It was pathetic. Brady would have eaten you guys alive with rookie corners. Hell Vick would have. And um, stopping the run means you could have provided more men in coverage while having minimal prescence on the line. Obviously with Dillon you couldn't do that.

I'm not sure with your rage and the fact that you probably have an X-acto blade next to your wrists that you're thinking clearly, so instead of shouting insults you should try taking a breath or two to calm down.

McNabb threw for over 350 yards, what more do you want against the corners?

Stopping the run? Dillon had 75 yards. Hardly impressive for a team that lead most of the 2nd half.

The problem was with the pass coverage, plain and simple. Rip them all you want.

I think you are still too angry.

How about instead of saying I'm too angry, you try arguing one of my points? Or is that too difficult?

Not too difficult, I am just lazy. How about instead of blaming your secondary, blame Mcnabb. Or is he untouchable? And the Patriots averaged 4 yds per rush against your defense...face it, you couldn't stop the run. Faulk lit you up (8 for 38), and Dillon did what he needed to do.

It was the turnovers that did the Eagles in, IMO.
 

gflores

Senior member
Jul 10, 2003
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
2 points:

1) our "pro bowl" secondary played like absolute garbage.
2) absolutely dreadful clock managemt.

this game was there for the taking, the eagles gave it away. pathetic.

Your Eagles offense couldn't do sh!t against 2 rookie corners and a bench warming rookie safety. Now THAT is pathetic. You guys were screwed b/c you couldn't stop the run worth crap.

The 2 rookie corners didn't do sh*t you fvcking dumbass. The 2 picks were by harrison and bruschi. McNabb threw for 350 yards.

Stopping the run? All their big gains were on completions that shouldn't have happened and those garbage dink & dunk passes. It was our secondary that was at fault.

Did you even watch the game?

Awwwwww is someone mad because his team lost? Figures. And what I said was your team didn't take advantage of the corners more. It was pathetic. Brady would have eaten you guys alive with rookie corners. Hell Vick would have. And um, stopping the run means you could have provided more men in coverage while having minimal prescence on the line. Obviously with Dillon you couldn't do that.

I'm not sure with your rage and the fact that you probably have an X-acto blade next to your wrists that you're thinking clearly, so instead of shouting insults you should try taking a breath or two to calm down.

McNabb threw for over 350 yards, what more do you want against the corners?

Stopping the run? Dillon had 75 yards. Hardly impressive for a team that lead most of the 2nd half.

The problem was with the pass coverage, plain and simple. Rip them all you want.

I think you are still too angry.

How about instead of saying I'm too angry, you try arguing one of my points? Or is that too difficult?

Not too difficult, I am just lazy. How about instead of blaming our secondary, blame Mcnabb. Or is he untouchable? And the Patriots averaged 4 yds per rush against your defense...face it, you couldn't stop the run. Faulk lit you up (8 for 38), and Dillon did what he needed to do.

It was the turnovers that did the Eagles in, IMO.

Basically what I said a few posts up.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: aplefka
I wasn't really watching the clock that closely until it was about 3:04 left and I saw the clock was still running and they were still going to a huddle and not even rushing to the line. When did that possession start clockwise?

5:40 from there own 21. the drive consumed 3:52 off the clock.

Wow. I thought they got it with about 4:45 left but that's a full 55 seconds extra. I just don't understand what they were thinking.
Philly's clock management was miserable. I don't know if it's their head coach, offensive coordinator, or McNabb that's at fault but someone should be answering questions. I mean, they're behind by 10 and time is a huge factor. They challenge a play that causes a long delay. You'd think they'd call a play and one to follow so they wouldn't have to huddle but they didn't. They got the 1st down and huddled up right after.

Does Andy Reid call the plays? If so he's definitely the one who should shoulder the blame for the blunder in the last half of the 4th. Had there been more time on the clock they wouldn't have had to attempt a desperate onsides kick and would've had a totally different gameplan for the attempt at the tying field goal.

I live in the Tampa Bay area and I swear the Eagles were using "Jon Gruden's book of clock management" - and I don't mean that in a good way. I was pulling for the Eagles partly because of the underdog factor and I like McNabb. That said, even though the game was close and the Eagles had a slim chance at the end they really didn't deserve to win it. In the end the better team won.

Congrats to the Pats. They are a class organization and a deserve all the praise they're getting. It's amazing to build a team this good and continue winning in the age of free agency.
 

Anonemous

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May 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: aplefka
I wasn't really watching the clock that closely until it was about 3:04 left and I saw the clock was still running and they were still going to a huddle and not even rushing to the line. When did that possession start clockwise?

5:40 from there own 21. the drive consumed 3:52 off the clock.

Wow. I thought they got it with about 4:45 left but that's a full 55 seconds extra. I just don't understand what they were thinking.
Philly's clock management was miserable. I don't know if it's their head coach, offensive coordinator, or McNabb that's at fault but someone should be answering questions. I mean, they're behind by 10 and time is a huge factor. They challenge a play that causes a long delay. You'd think they'd call a play and one to follow so they wouldn't have to huddle but they didn't. They got the 1st down and huddled up right after.

Does Andy Reid call the plays? If so he's definitely the one who should shoulder the blame for the blunder in the last half of the 4th. Had there been more time on the clock they wouldn't have had to attempt a desperate onsides kick and would've had a totally different gameplan for the attempt at the tying field goal.

I live in the Tampa Bay area and I swear the Eagles were using "Jon Gruden's book of clock management" - and I don't mean that in a good way. I was pulling for the Eagles partly because of the underdog factor and I like McNabb. That said, even though the game was close and the Eagles had a slim chance at the end they really didn't deserve to win it. In the end the better team won.

Congrats to the Pats. They are a class organization and a deserve all the praise they're getting. It's amazing to build a team this good and continue winning in the age of free agency.

ditto
and congrats to the Eagles for making it past the NFC championship game and to TO who showed everyone that he could play.

Is TO going to stay with the Eagles next year?
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Albis
even though i didn't want NE to win, the game was fun to watch

compared to last year's boring game, this game was exciting and lots of great yelling at the tv
Last years boring game? Last year was even more exciting than this year.

Well Iggles fans, it seems your team shot their wad for this decade. See you in another 10 to 15 years!
 

yobarman

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Jan 11, 2001
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Ugh, Another season ending in dissapointment.

I'm tired of saying "There's always next year"

I think Red Dawn is right with the "shot their wad" comment. There's been too many opportunities to win with not enough heart and brains to take advantage of it. It was a great game and NE stayed more focused than the Philly...Reid and McNabb had their heads somewhere else in the 4th quarter, but whatever, I'm not going to be a Monday morning quarterback.

The only direction for my mood to go is up, I suppose. It's going to be a depressing few months coming up.
 

geno

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Dec 26, 1999
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Originally posted by: yobarman
Ugh, Another season ending in dissapointment.

I'm tired of saying "There's always next year"

I think Red Dawn is right with the "shot their wad" comment. There's been too many opportunities to win with not enough heart and brains to take advantage of it. It was a great game and NE stayed more focused than the Philly...Reid and McNabb had their heads somewhere else in the 4th quarter, but whatever, I'm not going to be a Monday morning quarterback.

The only direction for my mood to go is up, I suppose. It's going to be a depressing few months coming up.

Hey if the NFC was as bad as it was this year, then I think they've got a great shot at going back.
 

PingSpike

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Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: deerslayer
Is it just me or does Troy Aikman have some massive hands?

Yeah, every single time he came on last night...I was thinking he's part gorilla...geeze those are huge hands.
 

AStar617

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Late to the party... but this about sums it all up.

It feels damn good to be a TRUE Boston sports fan right about now, no fairweather fan here. Lots of suffering up until now, including the abysmal Pats, Sox, and Celtics of the early/mid 90s, and the lack of a single playoff team in 2000. Someday It'll be hard to fully explain to my kids the exact level of the magic starting in 2001-2002...
 

Ynog

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One of my favorite analyst comments from last night.

As for the all Freddie Mitchell/Rodney Harrison talk before the Super Bowl - It should be noted that Harrison caught more McNabb passes than Mitchell.
 

lavaheadache

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Jan 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: deerslayer
Is it just me or does Troy Aikman have some massive hands?

Yeah, every single time he came on last night...I was thinking he's part gorilla...geeze those are huge hands.

Haha! At my house we were wondering If he is part ape too. Couldnt tell if the many Guinness' had taken their toll or if indeed that boy had Watermelon holding hands
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: aplefka
I wasn't really watching the clock that closely until it was about 3:04 left and I saw the clock was still running and they were still going to a huddle and not even rushing to the line. When did that possession start clockwise?

5:40 from there own 21. the drive consumed 3:52 off the clock.

Wow. I thought they got it with about 4:45 left but that's a full 55 seconds extra. I just don't understand what they were thinking.
Philly's clock management was miserable. I don't know if it's their head coach, offensive coordinator, or McNabb that's at fault but someone should be answering questions. I mean, they're behind by 10 and time is a huge factor. They challenge a play that causes a long delay. You'd think they'd call a play and one to follow so they wouldn't have to huddle but they didn't. They got the 1st down and huddled up right after.

Does Andy Reid call the plays? If so he's definitely the one who should shoulder the blame for the blunder in the last half of the 4th. Had there been more time on the clock they wouldn't have had to attempt a desperate onsides kick and would've had a totally different gameplan for the attempt at the tying field goal.

I live in the Tampa Bay area and I swear the Eagles were using "Jon Gruden's book of clock management" - and I don't mean that in a good way. I was pulling for the Eagles partly because of the underdog factor and I like McNabb. That said, even though the game was close and the Eagles had a slim chance at the end they really didn't deserve to win it. In the end the better team won.

Congrats to the Pats. They are a class organization and a deserve all the praise they're getting. It's amazing to build a team this good and continue winning in the age of free agency.
Philly had more total yards, double the 3rd downs converted + better 3rd down %, and whipped NE in passing yards! How did they lose? Bad clock management, turnovers, not enough pressure on Brady, and bad luck. Although I'm sure a lot of people in NE are pissed b/c they didn't cover the spread! I won $500 since Philly covered but wished they could have won the game. See, everyone's a winner now.

I think the odds of the Red Sox and Eagles winning it all in the same year would have been a million to one. It was a great sports year for me, New England winning it all was the next best scenario to Philly. Just one more reason Sox fans can rub it in the face of NY ers. Also, any NFC East fans have another painful couple of years, because the Eagles will be back in the SB. They get an improved pass rush, Andrews (1st round O-Line pick) back from his broken leg, a marquee receiver to replace "ALL TALK" Freddie Mitchell (guys in South Philly pub said this guy does NOT belong on the blue collar Iggles), Buckhalter back to help Westbrook, resign Trotter, and the Iggles will easily be the most successful NFC team for a long time to come.

Congrats to NE, it's great that many Sox fans can experience a DOUBLE championship in the SAME YEAR! Anyone know when the last time a football and baseball team have won championships in the same year??

 
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