***OFFICIAL SUPERBOWL XLVIII Thread***

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BoomerD

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Amazing how the medias opinion on Peyton has so many people being such jerks about him. Peyton didn't ask for any of it, he goes out and plays the game and does a damn good job of it. Meanwhile haters are so pissed at their own lives they can't wait to see a nice guy fail. Does Peyton go off on everyone around him in a yell fest when he loses like that Brady does? No he actually has some class.

Montana and Brady both refer to Peyton as one of the greatest that has ever played the game too.

IMO, PFM is a class act. Normally, he's a fucking artist with the football. I rooted for him when he was in Indy, (unless he was playing one of my teams) but when he signed with the Denver Donkeys, he became "one of the hated" to me. (I still think PFM is a class act...but as long as he wears Denver Orange, he's dead to me)
 

zinfamous

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IMO, PFM is a class act. Normally, he's a fucking artist with the football. I rooted for him when he was in Indy, (unless he was playing one of my teams) but when he signed with the Denver Donkeys, he became "one of the hated" to me. (I still think PFM is a class act...but as long as he wears Denver Orange, he's dead to me)

I kinda feel that way too--mainly because I had already denounced the Broncos before Manning--but I still want to see him, eh...not suck shit like this.

(no discredit to the Hawks--but seriously; dude sucked ass tonight)...but I have evolved from profoundly disliking the jock meathead (that I interpreted) of PFM at Tennessee, to profoundly respecting and appreciating that talent after about 3 years in Indy. I can't explain it, really, but PFM ended up moving from one of those jockholes that made sports (even the ones that I loved) annoying to me, to one of those indelible geniuses that made their field unexpectedly, and profoundly fascinating.

:\
 

KlokWyze

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Seattle's D deserves the credit, but Manning DID choke. Broncos special teams looked almost as bad as the Redskins tonight. Well maybe not that bad, but this was the Superbowl. Christ.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Seattle's D deserves the credit, but Manning DID choke. Broncos special teams looked almost as bad as the Redskins tonight. Well maybe not that bad, but this was the Superbowl. Christ.

Choked? You're not giving the Seahawks the credit they deserve. That was seriously one of the best defensive performances I've ever seen in a Super Bowl, and I've been watching them for over 30 years. Only the 1985 Bears and 2000 Ravens Super Bowl performances rival this one.

Manning didn't play well, but pinning this loss him is ridiculous. I didn't see one facet of the game where the Broncos played well:

1. The Broncos offensive line was TERRIBLE and made my Colts line look impenetrable. How do you blame Manning when arguably the two biggest plays in the game (the opening safety and the INT return) were ENTIRELY on the offensive line?

2. The Broncos defense did play OK at first, but was just on the field too long and as a result, was easy to shred later. Champ Bailey was burned all over the place and needs to hang it up.

3. The Broncos special teams looked bad too.

4. Manning obviously did not play well either, but the Seahawks deserve the credit there. This defensive performance will go down as one of the best ever.

5. The coaching was terrible. Where were the adjustments? I don't think anyone would've beaten the Seahawks tonight, but I bet my Colts would've made a game of it in the second half as they're masters of the half time adjustments.

You guys are also ignoring the fact that of the 5 previous times the #1 offense and #1 defense met, the team with the defense won 4 times.
 
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gorcorps

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Their tackling was terrible. The pass interference in the end zone was stupid. The game was over as soon as it started because the offense was worse than inept, but the defense certainly did nothing to keep them in the game.

Again, they did pretty well until that kickoff return and were down 29-0. Before that the only touchdown they let up was a 1 yd goal line run that was easy to get because of the pick. They even stopped him the play before, so it took several tries for "beast mode" to get through that defense.

After that kickoff return they were god awful. Maybe they would have been that bad if it was a close game anyway, but it looked like they just gave up. Shame on them for giving up with half the game left, but IMO the defense did what they could to keep Denver in it as long as it mattered. The offense couldn't do their part though.
 

kranky

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Choked? You're not giving the Seahawks the credit they deserve. That was seriously one of the best defensive performances I've ever seen in a Super Bowl, and I've been watching them for over 30 years. Only the 1985 Bears and 2000 Ravens Super Bowl performances rival this one.

Manning didn't play well, but pinning this loss him is ridiculous. I didn't see one facet of the game where the Broncos played well:

1. The Broncos offensive line was TERRIBLE and made my Colts line look impenetrable. How do you blame Manning when arguably the two biggest plays in the game (the opening safety and the INT return) were ENTIRELY on the offensive line?

2. The Broncos defense did play OK at first, but was just on the field too long and as a result, was easy to shred later. Champ Bailey was burned all over the place and needs to hang it up.

3. The Broncos special teams looked bad too.

4. Manning obviously did not play well either, but the Seahawks deserve the credit there. This defensive performance will go down as one of the best ever.

5. The coaching was terrible. Where were the adjustments? I don't think anyone would've beaten the Seahawks tonight, but I bet my Colts would've made a game of it in the second half as they're masters of the half time adjustments.

You guys are also ignoring the fact that of the 5 previous times the #1 offense and #1 defense met, the team with the defense won 4 times.

Two things.

First, I'm amazed at zinfamous' comments in this thread. Never seen him post with so much anger.

Second, agree with much of what IndyColtsFan said. People need to appreciate what a masterful defensive performance that was. One of the best in SB history. You can say Denver didn't play their best but you give credit to the team that got it done.

I was rooting for Seattle only because I don't enjoy Peyton/Brady style football - pass, pass, pass all the time. I liked seeing a precision timing passing offense get smacked down by a suffocating defense. I didn't find the game boring at all even after it got really lopsided. You knew the Denver O had the potential to put up points in a hurry, so there was still that possibility. But the Seattle D was just stifling. I loved it.

I also expected to see something different from Denver in the second half. Maybe they actually did make adjustments but the Seattle defense neutralized that also.
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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Choked? You're not giving the Seahawks the credit they deserve. That was seriously one of the best defensive performances I've ever seen in a Super Bowl, and I've been watching them for over 30 years. Only the 1985 Bears and 2000 Ravens Super Bowl performances rival this one.

Manning didn't play well, but pinning this loss him is ridiculous. I didn't see one facet of the game where the Broncos played well:

1. The Broncos offensive line was TERRIBLE and made my Colts line look impenetrable. How do you blame Manning when arguably the two biggest plays in the game (the opening safety and the INT return) were ENTIRELY on the offensive line?

2. The Broncos defense did play OK at first, but was just on the field too long and as a result, was easy to shred later. Champ Bailey was burned all over the place and needs to hang it up.

3. The Broncos special teams looked bad too.

4. Manning obviously did not play well either, but the Seahawks deserve the credit there. This defensive performance will go down as one of the best ever.

5. The coaching was terrible. Where were the adjustments? I don't think anyone would've beaten the Seahawks tonight, but I bet my Colts would've made a game of it in the second half as they're masters of the half time adjustments.

You guys are also ignoring the fact that of the 5 previous times the #1 offense and #1 defense met, the team with the defense won 4 times.

There might have been adjustments, but it still ended poorly. There were games all season where Denver looked like a different team in the 2nd half. This time they don't get the ball first and a kickoff return is what they have to deal with. Even with that though, IIRC they still started moving the ball but then the ball got punched out for a fumble. That fumble was pretty much the end of any hope. The defense was tired and stopped trying, and the offense scored one measly TD.
 

Jeeebus

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Wait... there was 24 commercial? OMG NIGHT SALVAGED! Time to scour YouTube.
 

silverpig

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Wait... there was 24 commercial? OMG NIGHT SALVAGED! Time to scour YouTube.

There were a few. The first one was very short and you had no idea it was for 24, the last one you knew and it was all like... whoa... badass.
 

Bird222

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I didn't hear one OMAHAAA! from Manning during the game. That's why they lost.
 

Zstream

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The Broncos defense is terrible... It's essentially the same defense as when Tebow was out there. Manning just made the offense that much better.

In fact, the offense is the same as when Tebow was playing. The Broncos took a bet on Manning and it almost paid off. Next year the opposing defenses will know how to play the Broncos, they won't go past the first round. That is, if manning still plays.
 

Zstream

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There might have been adjustments, but it still ended poorly. There were games all season where Denver looked like a different team in the 2nd half. This time they don't get the ball first and a kickoff return is what they have to deal with. Even with that though, IIRC they still started moving the ball but then the ball got punched out for a fumble. That fumble was pretty much the end of any hope. The defense was tired and stopped trying, and the offense scored one measly TD.

Manning sucked hard in the game. He alone makes the halftime adjustments (known fact). The fact is, Denver is terrible in the first half of games (defense and offense). Manning is the only reason they got as far as they did. Hell, the Chiefs and Chargers are a more complete "team" than the Broncos.

Oh, it's also widely know that Manning calls the shots and gameplay for all upcoming offense schemes in the preparation for games.
 

rudeguy

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Again, they did pretty well until that kickoff return and were down 29-0. Before that the only touchdown they let up was a 1 yd goal line run that was easy to get because of the pick. They even stopped him the play before, so it took several tries for "beast mode" to get through that defense.

After that kickoff return they were god awful. Maybe they would have been that bad if it was a close game anyway, but it looked like they just gave up. Shame on them for giving up with half the game left, but IMO the defense did what they could to keep Denver in it as long as it mattered. The offense couldn't do their part though.

Seattle shut down Peyton, that's what it all boils down to. Peyton was by far the best QB in the league this year and Seattle made him look like a scared little rookie. Every thing Peyton and the Denver offense tried failed miserably. Peyton isn't used to that. He knows how to handle everything. He knows what to do in order to win. He didn't have an answer last night.

I really wish the game had been closer. I wish Peyton had thrown 7 TD's and Wilson threw a game winner with 3 seconds left. I really do. But I guess this just goes to prove the point that when a big offense meets a big defense, the defense will always win. You can't win a damn Superbowl if you only put 8 points on the board.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I think the NFC will be the more powerful conference for quite some time from how things are looking. We may even see a repeat of the 80s and 90s, where the NFC won 13 or 14 in a row.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Manning sucked hard in the game. He alone makes the halftime adjustments (known fact). The fact is, Denver is terrible in the first half of games (defense and offense). Manning is the only reason they got as far as they did. Hell, the Chiefs and Chargers are a more complete "team" than the Broncos.

Oh, it's also widely know that Manning calls the shots and gameplay for all upcoming offense schemes in the preparation for games.

Widely known? You might want to tell that to Adam Gase and Peyton Manning (read Peyton's quote).
 

bignateyk

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I haven't been following this thread:

Was AMD in here talking shit about how great the broncos are like he was last year?? :biggrin:
 

Sho'Nuff

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Routbowl XLVII was probably the worst superbowl I have ever seen. It was like my high school team (which went 1-31 in my four years) showed up to play an NFL team. Simply embarrassing.

FWIW I don't think the game should reflect on Manning's legacy. Not much he could do when the rest of his team played like a bunch of lost children for most of the game.
 

Phokus

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The Saints and 49ers had close games against the Seahawks in the playoffs, the Broncos flat out got embarrassed/curb stomped and i think Peyton did choke.
 
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