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zinfamous

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edit: you are dead on with the ESB label and the beers demise. That label brings back some memories for sure, and has always been one of my all time favorite beer labels. Now days, you can tell Redhooks label and packaging have suffered some marketing and branding departments douchebaggery after they were acquired by some Macro. You can instantly recognize Redhook packaging despite the style, the fonts and their locations are all the same, just coloring and words change if that makes sense.

And I think that label is a throwback version--I recall the real label being more hand-drawn and simple, without the borders.
 

zinfamous

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Woah, slow down there hot rod!

By "Seahawks country" I meant that according to NFL policy, same with Idaho, Montana, and Alaska. I apologize for the confusion, I should have been more clear.

I don't follow the NBA, but ever since the Sonics were stolen, Seattle is probably considered "Blazers country" by the NBA for the same reasons.

I stopped watching the NBA around the time Payton left for the Lakers. The Nate McMillan, Payton, Kemp, Schrempf, Hersey Hawkins Supersonics...man, that team was my jam!

 

zinfamous

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Indeed. And I don't mean to come across as though I'm ranting against Seattle or Washington. It's just silly to me that people always lump Portland and Seattle together when they're 180 miles apart and in different states. Then again, I do the exact same thing when I think about the South. Or Midwest. Or Northeast. Or any other country on Earth. Or continent for that matter. Come to think of it, I'm really quite hypocritical in that regard. But that's all irrelevant. The important thing is, this isn't fucking Seahawks country.


It's fair. The Midwest is, after all, one giant cornfield populated with creationists and seldom-branching family trees. Somewhere in there, though, is this island called "Chicago." If you happen to find it, never leave those borders, unless from an aero-plane.
 

zinfamous

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Did you just write all that and forget about the most dynamic athlete on the field, Percy Harvin? Uhh. Name one person on Denver that can cover him. Doh. At least you mentioned how bad Seattle's pass blocking (yet forgot they equally abysmal run blocking - both in the mid 20's grading per PFF). Between Wilson, Lynch, and Harvin they have gamebreaking ability at any given moment just like Denver. The only difference is that Denver has a superior O-Line, but hopefully Seattle's brilliant pass coverage (Maxwell and Sherman in the top 10 in the league) can neutralize that. Not to mention their OLB's Smith and Irvin are #11/12 in pass coverage.

He already posted a rather long deal about Harvin, wondering what his effectiveness would be, in an earlier post.

That secondary vs manning is going to be an awesome show, for sure....but I am not sure that Sherman +2 can adequately cover the ~6-7 targets Peyton can find on any given snap.

I keep thinking about the Chargers game, and that goddamnmotherfucking 3rd and 17 play in the final minutes. That's how the Broncos kill you. They will always, always, always move those chains.

It should be a fucking awesome game.
 

SP33Demon

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He already posted a rather long deal about Harvin, wondering what his effectiveness would be, in an earlier post.

That secondary vs manning is going to be an awesome show, for sure....but I am not sure that Sherman +2 can adequately cover the ~6-7 targets Peyton can find on any given snap.

I keep thinking about the Chargers game, and that goddamnmotherfucking 3rd and 17 play in the final minutes. That's how the Broncos kill you. They will always, always, always move those chains.

It should be a fucking awesome game.

3rd and 17, let alone 3rd and 10 won't be converted. If it is, Manning beat the odds.
 

gorcorps

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It's fair. The Midwest is, after all, one giant cornfield populated with creationists and seldom-branching family trees. Somewhere in there, though, is this island called "Chicago." If you happen to find it, never leave those borders, unless from an aero-plane.

Eww

Chicago is the worst part of this area.

And the reason you can't leave the area is because it's surrounded by a ring of crime ridden shit holes.
 

SP33Demon

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Kaepernick now running his mouth, lol.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/201...ick-calls-richard-sherman-behavior-ridiculous
"To me, it was ridiculous," Kaepernick said. "But if that's what you need to do to make yourself feel like a better player, you have to tell everyone, I'm the best corner in the league, go ahead and tell them."

"If I throw that ball one foot farther, it's a TD, and now you're the goat, Richard Sherman," Kaepernick said.

Kaepernick looks forward to seeing Sherman again.
"He's afraid of our receivers, and that's something I'm looking forward to [exploiting] next year," he told the New York Post.

Uhhhh. If you say so, Kaep.
 

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Some fun numbers to chew on. Denver and Seattle are historically amazing teams--they are not just the #1 seed vs. #1 seed, best two teams in the NFL in 2013, but they are among the best teams in NFL history. I hope we can all appreciate how great both are, win or lose, and hopefully we are treated to an excellent game. Even if it goes sideways, one way or the other, both teams should hold their heads high.

SCORING

Scoring
Denver Offense: #1 – 606 points = 37.9 points per game (Record)
Seattle Defense: #1 – 231 points= 14.4 points per game (10th best all time)

Denver Defense: #22 – 24.9 points per game
Seattle Offense: #9 – 26.1 points per game

FYI: Largest Offense (Denver 37.9) vs. Defense (Seattle 14.4) differential in a Superbowl.
FYI: Seattle as a team allowed 22 touchdowns, but only 20 were against the defense as there was a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown (1) and fumble returned for touchdowns (1).
FYI: How important is having a historically great offense? Of the 6 all-time best offenses 4 did NOT make the Superbowl. The lone team to make it prior to Denver, the Patriots in 2007, lost.

2013 Broncos 606
2007 Patriots 589
2011 Packers 560
1998 Vikings 556
2000 Rams 540

Touchdowns, Passing
Denver Offense: #1 – 55 (Record)
Seattle Defense: #2 – 16

Denver Defense: #21t – 29
Seattle Offense: #10 – 27

Touchdowns, Rushing
Denver Offense: #7 – 16
Seattle Defense: #1 – 4

Denver Defense: #23t – 15
Seattle Offense: #13t – 14

Scoring Differential
Denver: #1 – 207 points = 12.9 per game
Seattle: #2 – 186 points = 11.6 per game

FYI Denver: The Eagles were the 2nd highest scoring team at 27.8 per game – 10.1 points less, per game, than Denver.
FYI Seattle: First defense since the 1985 Bears to lead the league in: fewest points allowed (231), fewest yards allowed (273.6 per game), and takeaways (39). iirc First defense since the 1970 Vikings to do that in addition to fewest passing yards allowed.
FYI Denver: Statistically best offense of all time in points, yards, and touchdowns and had 435 first downs (27 per game).
FYI Seattle: Seattle is the 2nd youngest team in the Superbowl; Seattle has no players who have played in a Superbowl.


YARDS

Yards
Denver Offense: #1 – 457.3 per game
Seattle Defense: #1 – 273.6 per game

Denver Defense: #19 – 356.0 per game
Seattle Offense: #17 – 339.0 per game

Yards, Passing
Denver Offense: #1 – 5,571 passing yards = 348 yards per game (Record)
Seattle Defense: #1 – 2,752 passing yards = 172 yards per game

Denver Defense: #27 – 254.4 yards per game
Seattle Offense: #26 – 202.3 yards per game

Yards, Rushing
Denver Offense: #15 – 117.1 yards per game
Seattle Defense: #7t – 101.6 yards per game

Denver Defense: #7t – 101.6 yards per game
Seattle Offense: #4 – 136.8 yards per game

Yards Per Attempt, Pass (Offense)
Seattle Offense: #2 – 8.4 yards
Denver Offense: #3 – 8.3 yards

Yards Per Attempt, Pass (Defense)
Seattle Defense: #1 – 5.8 yards
Denver Defense: #15 – 7.1 yards

Average Reception, Against
Seattle Defense: #1 – 9.9 yards
Denver Defense: #24t – 12.2 yards

Yards After Catch

Average YAC
Denver Offense: #1
Seattle Defense: #1

Total YAC
Denver Offense: # – 2751 total (#1)
Seattle Offense: # – 1635 total (#27)


TURNOVERS

Turnover Differential
Seattle: #1 -- +20
Denver: #13t -- 0

FYI: The NFC was better than the AFC at turnover differential. The NFC had 9 teams with positive (5 with 10+) while the AFC had 7 (only 2 with 10+).

Total Takeaways
Denver Offense: 26 giveaways (10 int, 16 fum)
Seattle Defense: 39 takeaways (28 int, 11 fum)

Denver Defense: 26 takeaways (17 int, 9 fum)
Seattle Offense: 19takeaways (9 int, 10 fum)

Interceptions
Denver Offense: #5t – 10
Seattle Defense: #1 – 28

Denver Defense: #13 – 17
Seattle Offense: #3 – 9


OTHER

Third Down
Denver Offense: #1 – 46.3%
Seattle Defense: #10 – 35.2%

Denver Defense: #16 – 38.1%
Seattle Offense: #20 – 37.3%

Sacks
Denver Defense: #14 -- 41
Seattle Defense: #8 – 44

FYI: Seattle lead the league with QB pressures with over 200.

Sacks Allowed
Denver Offense: #1 – 20
Seattle Offense: #22t – 44

FYI: Manning has not been sacked in the post season.

Red Zone
Denver Offense: #1
Seattle Defense: #1

FYI Denver: Over 77% of their red zone trips result in a touch down.

Explosive Plays, Passing

Over 20 yards
Denver Offense: #2 – 68
Seattle Defense: #1 – 30

Over 40 yards
Denver Offense: #6 – 13
Seattle Defense: #1t – 3

Over 20 yards
Denver Defense: #16t – 61
Seattle Offense: #13t – 52

Over 40 yards
Denver Defense: #8t – 8
Seattle Offense: #10t – 10

FYI: Although Seattle was only #30 in total receptions they ranked 13th and 10th in 20+ and 40+ explosive passing plays, respective.

Passer Rating
Denver Offense: #1 – 114.4
Seattle Defense: #1 – 63.4

Denver Defense: #17 – 84.5
Seattle Offense: #5 – 102.4

FYI: The LOB’s passing defense, when viewed against historical trends, is impressive. Per AnalyticsPros.com the average NFL QB Rating from the early 1970s (when this stat was developed) through the rest of the 1990s was 66.7. Since 2008 the average rating has jumped 83.2. Offenses have taken significant leaps in efficiency and raw yards in the last decade.

FYI: Passer Rating. While Manning’s average, and worst, performances of 2013 best Wilson it is interesting to note that the Seattle Defense has a far greater margin against opposing passers. Passer Rating Compared: Average vs. Worst performance. http://www.analyticspros.com/blog/beyond-analytics/seahawks-vs-broncos/




Now have at it guys, tell us which stats really matter.
 

smackababy

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He already posted a rather long deal about Harvin, wondering what his effectiveness would be, in an earlier post.

That secondary vs manning is going to be an awesome show, for sure....but I am not sure that Sherman +2 can adequately cover the ~6-7 targets Peyton can find on any given snap.

I keep thinking about the Chargers game, and that goddamnmotherfucking 3rd and 17 play in the final minutes. That's how the Broncos kill you. They will always, always, always move those chains.

It should be a fucking awesome game.

I don't think Denver is going to have that many targets against Seattle. Welker isn't man enough to get serious separation from a big DB and Demaryius Thomas is going to see the majority of the double coverage. Julius Thomas is going to be a good match up against one of Seattle's LBs or Chancellor and Decker is going to be the best target to throw to, IMO.

I think Seattle is going to really force Manning to make very accurate throws (which he is very capable of, but, as with everyone, not perfect). I just don't see Seattle shutting down Manning the entire game. Denver will put up some points. Seattle is going to have to play good on offense (or some lucky defensive scores) to win this one.

Should be a really good game though. I can't wait.
 

Newell Steamer

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NYC and it's fucking Super Bowl Boulevard is a fucking nightmare. We are already a crowded city when it comes to traffic. So, lets set up a bunch of shitty NFL related booths in the heart of Manhattan,.. for an event that is happening all the way over in Dirty Jersey.

Also, there is something call the Bud Light Hotel aaaaalll the way on the west side, just for a Super Bowl that is happening in another state.

I was honestly going to hit a few places in NYC for Super Bowl (cigar bars), but fuck that! What a mess.
 

BrokenVisage

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Kurt Warner still has the 3 highest Super Bowl passing yard totals in NFL history... just thought I'd throw that stat out there in case Manning somehow gets into the Top 3 on Sunday.
 

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This thread is too quiet before the best Superbowl match up in years. Therefore: Some AMDzone baiting is in order.

I think things could go sideways for Denver’s offense. I think we have as much chance as seeing the Manning face on the sidelines as we do the Star Wars offense. Here is how I could potentially see how the wheels on the bus fall off. The TLDR Cliff Notes: Seattle will mug Denver’s receivers (see: Patriots vs. Rams 2002) and pressure Manning (see: Giants vs. Patroits 2007). All-Everything offenses have been halted before, and Seattle is every bit as good as those Patriot (2002) and Giant defenses (2007).

#1 Weather. The cold will slow Manning some. The wind will make the ducks a little less accurate.

#2 Deep Balls. The weather, in conjunction with Manning’s arm, would result in floaters off target. You don’t throw those with Earl Thomas back there.

#3 Rhythm. Seattle corners are going to press, jam, and ::cough::hold::hold:: at the line and disrupt Denver timing routes.

#4 Time. Manning usually has a lot of time to throw. Seattle has a very good 4 man pass rush. Typically Manning can defuse this with his quick passes and hot reads. The quick passes are going to be gummed up by press coverage. The hot reads will be less enticing as Seattle doesn’t have mismatches and doesn’t need to blitz to get to Manning. Him throwing 0.5 seconds slow could result in more pressure and mistakes.

#5. Matchups. Unlike most opponents where Denver has a massive edge in offensive personnel Seattle throws out 3 All-Pro defensive backs in Thomas, Sherman, and Chancelor. Maxwell, Thurmond, and Lane are all excellent corners who would be one of the two starting corners on ANY other NFL squad. And their linebackers—Wright, Wagner, Irvin, and backup Malcum Smith (who had a INT returned for a TD and was the dude who picked Kaepernick on the Sherman deflection)—are the best pass covering linebackers unit in the league. Denver doesn’t have a matchup advantage against this pass defense. And some of the cute stuff, like rubs/picks, won’t work well against Seattle’s big defenders.

#6 Mind games. Manning is a nice guy, great story, but above all else is a Jedi Master of picking apart teams with his mind. But Seattle is going to neutralize this by turning the table. Seattle won’t even try to out-scheme Manning at the line by being cute. They are going to line up and dictate to Denver: We are playing 3 Deep. We are playing Cover 1 Press. Bring it on! Manning is going to line up prepared to holler OMAHA! fifty times every play only to be frustrated by Seattle’s vanilla defense daring him to beat them straight up. This is a classic example of a finesse, cerebral offense used to making defenses into proverbial pretzels matching up against a young, athletic, fast, and big defenders with swagger & smarts (see: Patriots vs. the Greatest Show on Turf—harken back to the crying about how the Patriots were too physical). They are going to disrupt the finesse game and they are neutralizing Manning’s genius by playing straight up ball, forcing Denver to beat them with execution at each level and at every matchup, not trickery and adjustments at the line.

#7 Safety valves. Manning won’t have Julius Thomas as a standout miss match. Chancelor and KJ Wright can out Thomas just like they did to Vernon twice, Jimmy twice, and even the respectable Gonzo. Try to be tricky with a mismatch pairing Thomas against a corner by using formations with him as the widest player to a side?—that doesn’t work so well when you have a fast 6’3” Sherman more than happy to take on the mismatch. So will Denver try screens? New Orleans is a good screen team and Seattle backers ate these plays alive, young and all.

#8 Run against Nickel. Denver is used to abusing teams with 6 in the box or 7 (the last being a small slot DB type). This won’t be so simple against Seattle. When Seattle goes to Nickel personnel Manning will call a run; unfortunately Seattle’s Nickel players are great against the rush. The backs that gave Seattle problems where gashing, explosive small backs, and that was when Wagner was out/hurt. Seattle has large DBs (Chancelor, Sherman, Maxwell) who can tackle, smallish safety Thomas is a tackling machine, and Middle Linebacker Bobby Wagner is fast, athletic, and was a big part why Seattle stuffed San Francisco rushing attack.

#9 Dink-and-Dunk. Manning will resort to dink-and-dunk but Seattle is the best and preventing YAC which will prevent Denver from those long 12 play drives.

#10 Manning face. Manning has a long history of pressing in big games. He continues to evolve and mature but Seattle has all the tools to frustrate him. If Seattle can get a lead on Denver and hits Manning early and often and can do some of the above things Manning will feel pressured. If he feels pressured he will make mistakes. If Seattle can get that Manning to appear the wheels on the Star Wars offense will fall off and Seattle will have their first Lombardi.

Or not Go Hawks!

Ps- Come on AMD, come back and lay out the gameplan how the Broncos are going to destroy Seattle's Defense. Maybe they are taking notes from Matt Schaub who destroyed Seattle for 2 quarters.
 

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#6 Mind games. Manning is a nice guy, great story, but above all else is a Jedi Master of picking apart teams with his mind. But Seattle is going to neutralize this by turning the table. Seattle won’t even try to out-scheme Manning at the line by being cute. They are going to line up and dictate to Denver: We are playing 3 Deep. We are playing Cover 1 Press. Bring it on! Manning is going to line up prepared to holler OMAHA! fifty times every play only to be frustrated by Seattle’s vanilla defense daring him to beat them straight up. This is a classic example of a finesse, cerebral offense used to making defenses into proverbial pretzels matching up against a young, athletic, fast, and big defenders with swagger & smarts (see: Patriots vs. the Greatest Show on Turf—harken back to the crying about how the Patriots were too physical). They are going to disrupt the finesse game and they are neutralizing Manning’s genius by playing straight up ball, forcing Denver to beat them with execution at each level and at every matchup, not trickery and adjustments at the line.
Sadly I think this is what will make or break the game and I as much as I hate to say it will be why the Hawks will win the game. Ugh. PROVE ME WRONG DENVER!!!
 

SP33Demon

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This will be the true test of whether defense, or offense wins championships! I'm in the defense camp. Keep in mind Seattle was also missing time from their superstar Irvin (out 1st 4 weeks) so total QB pressures should be slightly higher. More importantly for Denver, their Run Defense is falsely inflated because of Von Miller's 7 spectacular run D games - he's by far their best run stopper and won't be available. Nobody is even close to Von Miller's +18 grade over 7 games, for reference it took Knighton and Ayers an entire season to amass a +11 rating against the run. It's akin to Cincinatti losing Geno Atkins (+13) after 7 games and the next closest guy against the run was Johnson at +3. Yes, Von Miller is that big of a loss and I expect Beast Mode to bust some big chunks here and there despite his shitty run blocking OLine - Lynch has proven that an OLine is optional and only needs to get one lucky block for him to kill it.

Really the only impressive win for Denver against a top 10 defense was the first game against the Chiefs when Justin Houston (monster +9.4 in that game alone) had 3 QB hurries on Manning and yet Denver still pulled it out. Denver winning at KC wasn't all that impressive without Houston. Keep in mind that while those were hard fought games for Denver, Seattle's defense is head and shoulders above KC. Twice as good a pass rush and 6X as good pass coverage, to be exact. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by Seattle's defense against the "invincible" juggernaut vaunted Bronco's offense.

All in all this SB has the pedigree to top even last year's great drama.
 
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Arkaign

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This thread is too quiet before the best Superbowl match up in years. Therefore: Some AMDzone baiting is in order.

I think things could go sideways for Denver’s offense. I think we have as much chance as seeing the Manning face on the sidelines as we do the Star Wars offense. Here is how I could potentially see how the wheels on the bus fall off. The TLDR Cliff Notes: Seattle will mug Denver’s receivers (see: Patriots vs. Rams 2002) and pressure Manning (see: Giants vs. Patroits 2007). All-Everything offenses have been halted before, and Seattle is every bit as good as those Patriot (2002) and Giant defenses (2007).

#1 Weather. The cold will slow Manning some. The wind will make the ducks a little less accurate.

#2 Deep Balls. The weather, in conjunction with Manning’s arm, would result in floaters off target. You don’t throw those with Earl Thomas back there.

#3 Rhythm. Seattle corners are going to press, jam, and ::cough::hold::hold:: at the line and disrupt Denver timing routes.

#4 Time. Manning usually has a lot of time to throw. Seattle has a very good 4 man pass rush. Typically Manning can defuse this with his quick passes and hot reads. The quick passes are going to be gummed up by press coverage. The hot reads will be less enticing as Seattle doesn’t have mismatches and doesn’t need to blitz to get to Manning. Him throwing 0.5 seconds slow could result in more pressure and mistakes.

#5. Matchups. Unlike most opponents where Denver has a massive edge in offensive personnel Seattle throws out 3 All-Pro defensive backs in Thomas, Sherman, and Chancelor. Maxwell, Thurmond, and Lane are all excellent corners who would be one of the two starting corners on ANY other NFL squad. And their linebackers—Wright, Wagner, Irvin, and backup Malcum Smith (who had a INT returned for a TD and was the dude who picked Kaepernick on the Sherman deflection)—are the best pass covering linebackers unit in the league. Denver doesn’t have a matchup advantage against this pass defense. And some of the cute stuff, like rubs/picks, won’t work well against Seattle’s big defenders.

#6 Mind games. Manning is a nice guy, great story, but above all else is a Jedi Master of picking apart teams with his mind. But Seattle is going to neutralize this by turning the table. Seattle won’t even try to out-scheme Manning at the line by being cute. They are going to line up and dictate to Denver: We are playing 3 Deep. We are playing Cover 1 Press. Bring it on! Manning is going to line up prepared to holler OMAHA! fifty times every play only to be frustrated by Seattle’s vanilla defense daring him to beat them straight up. This is a classic example of a finesse, cerebral offense used to making defenses into proverbial pretzels matching up against a young, athletic, fast, and big defenders with swagger & smarts (see: Patriots vs. the Greatest Show on Turf—harken back to the crying about how the Patriots were too physical). They are going to disrupt the finesse game and they are neutralizing Manning’s genius by playing straight up ball, forcing Denver to beat them with execution at each level and at every matchup, not trickery and adjustments at the line.

#7 Safety valves. Manning won’t have Julius Thomas as a standout miss match. Chancelor and KJ Wright can out Thomas just like they did to Vernon twice, Jimmy twice, and even the respectable Gonzo. Try to be tricky with a mismatch pairing Thomas against a corner by using formations with him as the widest player to a side?—that doesn’t work so well when you have a fast 6’3” Sherman more than happy to take on the mismatch. So will Denver try screens? New Orleans is a good screen team and Seattle backers ate these plays alive, young and all.

#8 Run against Nickel. Denver is used to abusing teams with 6 in the box or 7 (the last being a small slot DB type). This won’t be so simple against Seattle. When Seattle goes to Nickel personnel Manning will call a run; unfortunately Seattle’s Nickel players are great against the rush. The backs that gave Seattle problems where gashing, explosive small backs, and that was when Wagner was out/hurt. Seattle has large DBs (Chancelor, Sherman, Maxwell) who can tackle, smallish safety Thomas is a tackling machine, and Middle Linebacker Bobby Wagner is fast, athletic, and was a big part why Seattle stuffed San Francisco rushing attack.

#9 Dink-and-Dunk. Manning will resort to dink-and-dunk but Seattle is the best and preventing YAC which will prevent Denver from those long 12 play drives.

#10 Manning face. Manning has a long history of pressing in big games. He continues to evolve and mature but Seattle has all the tools to frustrate him. If Seattle can get a lead on Denver and hits Manning early and often and can do some of the above things Manning will feel pressured. If he feels pressured he will make mistakes. If Seattle can get that Manning to appear the wheels on the Star Wars offense will fall off and Seattle will have their first Lombardi.

Or not Go Hawks!

Ps- Come on AMD, come back and lay out the gameplan how the Broncos are going to destroy Seattle's Defense. Maybe they are taking notes from Matt Schaub who destroyed Seattle for 2 quarters.

Outstanding post. Well thought out, and while a little optimistic perhaps, I feel it to be roughly accurate.

I am pulling for the Seahawks well, because they've never won a SB before, and I always pull for a city and fans that have never brought that home.
 

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Not SB related but I watched some of the Chinese New Year stuff earlier and they had the Redskins cheerleader squad in Hong Kong doing some dance routines.
 

smackababy

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Not SB related but I watched some of the Chinese New Year stuff earlier and they had the Redskins cheerleader squad in Hong Kong doing some dance routines.

That is the last place they have any fans. It's not like the Redskins had anything to do after the regular season, but sit around on the couch. >_<
 

lupi

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was watching some clips of the colts-bears game, didn't remember it being nearly as much rain as it shows in the video.
 

zinfamous

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That is the last place they have any fans. It's not like the Redskins had anything to do after the regular season, but sit around on the couch. >_<

Part of NFL trying to spread its seed wherever it can. The Redskins logo makes sense, too, because what does the world think when they think the USA? Cowboys and Indians. And it's not like the Chinese are going to complain about the Redskins controversy...
 
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