***OFFICIAL SUPERBOWL XLVIII Thread***

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Seattle picked a great day to play their best game of the season. Denver picked a poor day to play their worst game of the season. It made for a completely boring affair, which is a shame, as I was primed for a tight back-and-forth game. I was pulling for Denver because I wanted Manning to pick up one more before he retires, but Seattle's a great team, and they've really grown on me over the past few years, so I'm not even remotely disappointed they won. It's not fair to put that loss entirely on Manning, but despite his record setting number of completions, he threw some balls that weren't within three counties of his receivers, so he doesn't get a pass for Denver's abysmal performance. Every part of the Broncos absolutely sucked in that game, Manning included.
 
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here's the best part:

Eli is still > Peyton.


They kept cutting to Eli Manning watching with this strained look on his face, and my buddy was thinking he was trying to hold back laughter for keeping the Superbowl crown over Peyton. I think he's more innocent than that; it was belated guilt for paying a voodoo priest to make everyone on the Broncos forget how to play football. "Aw shucks, I probably shouldn't'a done that..."
 

dainthomas

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Wilson has as many Super Bowl wins as Manning. I'm so happy for that kid and hope he keeps doing well.
 

zinfamous

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Or how about people that drink it all day are the #1 cause of diabetes? I love Coca Cola but only drink it on weekends.

Soda? you could probably say that--the concentration of sugars/product is a legit claim. And you consider the percentage of soda/diet of diabetics (those that more or less "chose" to be diabetics)

Coca Cola only? naah....wait, what is Coca Cola market share on "soda?" ....something like 80%?


:hmm:







--disclaimer--It seems pretty clear to me that taste receptors from person to person are very different; and we know this pretty clearly through catalogues of various biochemical reactions.

the "sweet" preference is, by far, the strongest of all in humans. There is no debating this, as it is hard-wired reptilian brain-type shit without a doubt. That being said, the majority of humans are going to go sweet before anything else, simply because it is the very last taste that kills us. period.

now, that being said, these fuckwads at Coca Cola exploit the holy hell out of that knowledge, and they know what the fuck they are doing. This is why it was first formulated with cocaine by that most classic of 19th century hucksters--the snake oil salesman, as a cure-all. The product, and the entire concept of soda, exists simply as "find some addictive compound that sells extremely well to idiots"

that's it. that's why we buy it and drink it to our deaths. so, in that way...I don't fully blame those type of diabetics for being diabetics, and I honestly believe that these companies are facing the same type of litigation that the tobacco industry faced. Bloomburg and NYC was the first salvo, (an incident laughed at and scoffed by the illiterate plebians that fail to read and understand data).

And yes--it appears silly, until you understand the insidious nature of your legally sanctioned addiction.


wait, what was this thread about? :hmm:
 

zinfamous

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Lol why? Because he has one more ring? I recall seeing 5 MVPs to zero, btw.

it's a joke. Eli is a terrible QB. ....but he still has more championships, and Heismans....

and you know how people are on this board--SB defines everything :\

They kept cutting to Eli Manning watching with this strained look on his face, and my buddy was thinking he was trying to hold back laughter for keeping the Superbowl crown over Peyton. I think he's more innocent than that; it was belated guilt for paying a voodoo priest to make everyone on the Broncos forget how to play football. "Aw shucks, I probably shouldn't'a done that..."

Funny thing: my buddy put $0.50 down that Eli would be shown LESS than 1.5 times tonight. with 2 minutes to go, they showed him for the 2nd shot.

Not even close. Just amazing the logic people have.

again....sigh.
 

BUTCH1

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Always the same excuses, every time. Its the offensive lines fault (the same line that allowed Manning to sit in the pocket all day and throw 55TD and had fewest sacks). Its the defense fault. The other team is mean. Manning receivers are being inappropriately touched. Yes, we heard this all before, every time the "messiah" chokes in the playoffs, which happened way too many times.

Truly great players (Brady/Montana) made things happen. Stat hoarders like Manning and Marino don't.

Numbers don't lie:

Regular Season W-L:
Manning 167-73 .696
Brady 148-43 .775

Playoffs
Manning 12-13 0.478
Brady 18-8 0.692
Montana 16-7
Marino 8-10

I made that post because as a Pat's fan I had to hear how Brady "choked" against the Giants by not scoring enough points yet no one seemed to notice he was sacked 5 times, smashed to the turf countless other times along with numerous hurried, inaccurate, throws. A team HAS to perform as a team to win a SB, if your not going to stop the opposing teams pass rush chances are your passing game will start to suck, I don't care if a QB has Rice, Harrison, Gronkoski, Welker, Gonzalez, Megatron, Fitzgerald as targets it all starts with the blocking. As for today's game Denver's D started OK then missed tackles left and right, then the kickoff returned for a TD, was PM supposed to be on special teams to stop that from happening?. Even if PM played a better game would it have been enough to overcome everything else that went wrong for Denver tonight? IMHO, no..
 

zinfamous

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Seattle picked a great day to play their best game of the season. Denver picked a poor day to play their worst game of the season. It made for a completely boring affair, which is a shame, as I was primed for a tight back-and-forth game. I was pulling for Denver because I wanted Manning to pick up one more before he retires, but Seattle's a great team, and they've really grown on me over the past few years, so I'm not even remotely disappointed they won. It's not fair to put that loss entirely on Manning, but despite his record setting number of completions, he threw some balls that weren't within three counties of his receivers, so he doesn't get a pass for Denver's abysmal performance. Every part of the Broncos absolutely sucked in that game, Manning included.

I am still trying to figure out what happened.

I am hoping that someone like Gruden will put together a definitive tape that shows us every Denver possession with the entire field in view--basically, I want to see what Manning had to see.

Was Seattle Secondary that fucking good tonight? I still don't believe it...but the type of throws he was making tonight, I can only imagine that he was so flustered and his options were so poor that he was playing like the JV middle school player that we saw--because he was forced to play that way.

anyway...that's what I hope. I don't want the story simply to be that Denver played worse that Jacksonville or Detroit has ever played. I want it to be that Seattle shut them the fuck down. that's the only thing that makes this SB memorable--for Denver and Seattle, tbh.

Because, if not, then Jacksonville could have stomped Denver tonight. No one wants to see that--ot even Tebow fans in Jacksonville.
 

TheSlamma

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Losing the game wouldn't be a choke.

Not even showing up? That's a choke.

You cannot be in the conversation for "best QB ever" and lay a turd like that in the Super Bowl. Everyone is so gaga about Peyton's supposedly mythical ability to read defenses and get his offense into the right play....oops, so much for that, at least in the big game.

Peyton is officially off the list for the Mt Rushmore of NFL QB's. The "greatest ever" list starts with Montana and Brady, then there's a step down to the next level. Peyton might have a good argument for being on that second level, but he has forever forsaken his claim to the top tier.
Amazing how the medias opinion on Peyton has so many people being such jerks about him. Peyton didn't ask for any of it, he goes out and plays the game and does a damn good job of it. Meanwhile haters are so pissed at their own lives they can't wait to see a nice guy fail. Does Peyton go off on everyone around him in a yell fest when he loses like that Brady does? No he actually has some class.

Montana and Brady both refer to Peyton as one of the greatest that has ever played the game too.
 

zinfamous

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I never knew how funny Stamos was until recently. I would kill to be in a room with those three. You know the insults get merciless and below the belt.

seriously.


and cocaine would make that night epic!


(don't do it myself--but just give it to those dudes and watch them go)
 

Capt Caveman

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Amazing how the medias opinion on Peyton has so many people being such jerks about him. Peyton didn't ask for any of it, he goes out and plays the game and does a damn good job of it. Meanwhile haters are so pissed at their own lives they can't wait to see a nice guy fail. Does Peyton go off on everyone around him in a yell fest when he loses like that Brady does? No he actually has some class.

Montana and Brady both refer to Peyton as one of the greatest that has ever played the game too.

Actually, Manning was yelling at his offense line on the sidelines tonight.
 

zinfamous

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A commercial for 24 !!!!

I shit my britches there.

sadly, that was the best moment of the night for me.

Jack, + Chloe + rescue from firey explosion + shooting the shit out of whatever assholes deserve Jack's bullet = my money.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Skipping every post of this this thread..

The only thing good about this superbowl is knowing that Jack Bauer is back!

And I am going to cry with my $60 bucks that I won
 

TheSlamma

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I am still trying to figure out what happened.

I am hoping that someone like Gruden will put together a definitive tape that shows us every Denver possession with the entire field in view--basically, I want to see what Manning had to see.

Was Seattle Secondary that fucking good tonight? I still don't believe it...but the type of throws he was making tonight, I can only imagine that he was so flustered and his options were so poor that he was playing like the JV middle school player that we saw--because he was forced to play that way.

anyway...that's what I hope. I don't want the story simply to be that Denver played worse that Jacksonville or Detroit has ever played. I want it to be that Seattle shut them the fuck down. that's the only thing that makes this SB memorable--for Denver and Seattle, tbh.

Because, if not, then Jacksonville could have stomped Denver tonight. No one wants to see that--ot even Tebow fans in Jacksonville.
lol, wow
 

zinfamous

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Holy crap that was painful to watch...and I was even rooting for the Seahawks...

so much this.

I hated that game so much...even though the result is what I was rooting for.

terrible. really.

It sucks being human....
 

Childs

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I am still trying to figure out what happened.

I am hoping that someone like Gruden will put together a definitive tape that shows us every Denver possession with the entire field in view--basically, I want to see what Manning had to see.

Was Seattle Secondary that fucking good tonight? I still don't believe it...but the type of throws he was making tonight, I can only imagine that he was so flustered and his options were so poor that he was playing like the JV middle school player that we saw--because he was forced to play that way.

anyway...that's what I hope. I don't want the story simply to be that Denver played worse that Jacksonville or Detroit has ever played. I want it to be that Seattle shut them the fuck down. that's the only thing that makes this SB memorable--for Denver and Seattle, tbh.

Because, if not, then Jacksonville could have stomped Denver tonight. No one wants to see that--ot even Tebow fans in Jacksonville.

Even without the turnovers Seattle would have most likely still won. 49ers, Panthers and Saints probably would have beaten the Broncos. They didnt play anyone in the AFC with a top tier defense, and you can't simulate the speed and physicality. And they had no experience going against a defense that can get pressure on the QB and stop the run with just 4 guys. And Seattle's dbs are so good it doesnt matter how much time PM has, cause no one is open except for the short underneath stuff. If he could scramble or still had his arm strength he could have made them adjust, but the only chance he really had was if Seattle made mistakes on both sides of the ball, and they generally dont. Its too bad Peyton will be labeled a choker. His teams usually win with smoke and mirrors, but they are rarely the best team in the playoffs. If anything, I think he is an overachiever.

I watched a lot of Seattle and SF this year, and they were best teams IMO. The real Super Bowl was two weeks ago.
 

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How bad would you feel if you paid $5 million+ for a superbowl ad but it didn't air until the late 3rd/4th quarter where they lost 60+% of their audience by then?

As for commercials, my favorite was Seinfeld and Costanza because I'm a big Seinfeld fan and they were able to capture the essence of the show perfectly. Also the Doberman/Chiwawa Mix was good.
 
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zinfamous

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Even without the turnovers Seattle would have most likely still won. 49ers, Panthers and Saints probably would have beaten the Broncos. They didnt play anyone in the AFC with a top tier defense, and you can't simulate the speed and physicality. And they had no experience going against a defense that can get pressure on the QB and stop the run with just 4 guys. And Seattle's dbs are so good it doesnt matter how much time PM has, cause no one is open except for the short underneath stuff. If he could scramble or still had his arm strength he could have made them adjust, but the only chance he really had was if Seattle made mistakes on both sides of the ball, and they generally dont. Its too bad Peyton will be labeled a choker. His teams usually win with smoke and mirrors, but they are rarely the best team in the playoffs. If anything, I think he is an overachiever.

I watched a lot of Seattle and SF this year, and they were best teams IMO. The real Super Bowl was two weeks ago.


that's the thing.

I've been thinking this way all year--you could go back to the ealriest football threads and I'm still saying, every week: whoever wins NFC = superbowl champs.

but, still.

I expected it to be Denver. the only shot to beat the NFC.

And they are a much better team than tonight...regardless of the competition that they have faced up until now, they are still pros.
 

fustercluck

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It does speak to the power of the NFC vs the AFC for sure, at least at the top tier. I really wonder if Greenbay and San Fransisco would have also beaten Denver. Greenbay maybe, San Fransisco probably, but certainly not to the degree of a 30+ point drubbing. I think the Seahawks are just a really damn good football team. They won most of the year when Wilson was playing badly, and last night you saw what they can do when he is ON.
 
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zinfamous

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Well that was pretty fucking hard to watch. It just shows how a physical defense ready to play can shake an offense that relies so much on timing. Seattle defense played a great game and easily won that game.

I will say that I don't understand some of the people blaming the Denver D. They did a pretty damn good job of containing Lynch, and only let Russell start scoring after the game was lost and things were hopeless. This was 100% not understanding what Seattle defense was capable of. They had great tackling which prevented either Thomas from getting yards after catch. They disrupted routes enough to ruin the timing of the long pass. They also got in Manning's face enough to cause tips and INTs.

I agree, for the most part. I think it was just an utter domination of Seattle D (that's what I hope), but for the most part, Denver D kept them int he game...through the 1st quarter.

Special teams made 2 huge ass failures, obviously.

Denver snapping into a safety on the FIRST FUCKING PLAY of the game was foreshadowing.

obviously

but FFS--The D held Seattle to 6 POINTS! in the first quarter.....


Let's remember that one, folks. ()


Denver had no experience, all year, playing down like that...mistake after mistake. That's no excuse for the Broncos, but Seattle D did everything they needed to do to make that offense clock in to work tonight, and the Denver D gave their team the 1 quarter that everyone ever expected them to need. Let's get real, here.
 
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