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StormRider

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Bibble
Students in Queens reported to have swine flu. Make sure to wash your hands, people.

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Always good advice to follow sanitary procedures. However, before people get worked up in this thread & fall victim to the sensationalism (just like the bird flu pandemic... I mean panic) consider that (at least according to the NYTimes) about 100 students in that school became sick, 8 were tested, all got better, none were hospitalized. It's not the end of the world. Getting the flu sucks, but the U.S. can deal with this variety. Plus, it's almost summer - transmission rates are much lower during the summer.

Well, I know a lot of people are saying "Don't worry -- remember SARS and the bird flu? Nothing happened with them -- it's just some people out there (i.e. news reporters) like to have people constantly living in fear because it sells newspapers or gets bigger ratings."

But I have this to say: "Have any of you guys thought that maybe one of the reasons SARS and the bird flu didn't become a bigger problem was that the health authorities took it seriously?"

Personally, if the CDC is worried then I'll take that expert opinion over the common lay-person's.

Hopefully this won't become a pandemic. But I would rather our government and health agencies take it very seriously and have it become nothing than a government or health agency say "Meh, it's nothing. Don't worry -- it's just a flu" and have it become a big deal later on.

 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
30,772
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Originally posted by: StormRider
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Bibble
Students in Queens reported to have swine flu. Make sure to wash your hands, people.

Text

Always good advice to follow sanitary procedures. However, before people get worked up in this thread & fall victim to the sensationalism (just like the bird flu pandemic... I mean panic) consider that (at least according to the NYTimes) about 100 students in that school became sick, 8 were tested, all got better, none were hospitalized. It's not the end of the world. Getting the flu sucks, but the U.S. can deal with this variety. Plus, it's almost summer - transmission rates are much lower during the summer.

Well, I know a lot of people are saying "Don't worry -- remember SARS and the bird flu? Nothing happened with them -- it's just some people out there (i.e. news reporters) like to have people constantly living in fear because it sells newspapers or gets bigger ratings."

But I have this to say: "Have any of you guys thought that maybe one of the reasons SARS and the bird flu didn't become a bigger problem was that the health authorities took it seriously?"

Personally, if the CDC is worried then I'll take that expert opinion over the common lay-person's.

Hopefully this won't become a pandemic. But I would rather our government and health agencies take it very seriously and have it become nothing than a government or health agency say "Meh, it's nothing. Do/n't worry -- it's just a flu" and have it become a big deal later on.

Bird flu was not easily transmitted from person to person, usually it was bird to person. Swine flu Seems to be much more easily transmitted from human to human.
 

FelixDeCat

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Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Bird flu was not easily transmitted from person to person, usually it was bird to person. Swine flu Seems to be much more easily transmitted from human to human.

Especially if those humans dont purchase my $5 surgical masks. Available soon at felixdekat.com


 

StormRider

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Mar 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: StormRider
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Bibble
Students in Queens reported to have swine flu. Make sure to wash your hands, people.

Text

Always good advice to follow sanitary procedures. However, before people get worked up in this thread & fall victim to the sensationalism (just like the bird flu pandemic... I mean panic) consider that (at least according to the NYTimes) about 100 students in that school became sick, 8 were tested, all got better, none were hospitalized. It's not the end of the world. Getting the flu sucks, but the U.S. can deal with this variety. Plus, it's almost summer - transmission rates are much lower during the summer.

Well, I know a lot of people are saying "Don't worry -- remember SARS and the bird flu? Nothing happened with them -- it's just some people out there (i.e. news reporters) like to have people constantly living in fear because it sells newspapers or gets bigger ratings."

But I have this to say: "Have any of you guys thought that maybe one of the reasons SARS and the bird flu didn't become a bigger problem was that the health authorities took it seriously?"

Personally, if the CDC is worried then I'll take that expert opinion over the common lay-person's.

Hopefully this won't become a pandemic. But I would rather our government and health agencies take it very seriously and have it become nothing than a government or health agency say "Meh, it's nothing. Do/n't worry -- it's just a flu" and have it become a big deal later on.

Bird flu was not easily transmitted from person to person, usually it was bird to person. Swine flu Seems to be much more easily transmitted from human to human.

Well, they were worried that the bird flu would mutate into something that was spread easily through human-human contact. Luckily that didn't happened.

Swine Flu is also normally not easily spread through human-human contact. What makes this strain worrisome is that it looks like it is easily spread through human-human contact since most of those affected were not in close contact with pigs.
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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Bird flu, swine flu, SARS, Lyme disease, West Nile virus, Ebola, Mad Cow, Flesh Eating disease.....

The sky is falling!!!!!!
 

KeithTalent

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Nov 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: Rufus12
I got room in my bunker if anyone wants to ride out the swine flu apocalypse.

Hmm, maybe. Pics of you?

KT
 

Born2bwire

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Oct 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: Rufus12
I got room in my bunker if anyone wants to ride out the swine flu apocalypse.

You got tissues and Aleve? I've been sneezing a lot and now I've got body aches.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Wow:

The federal government declares a public health emergency, as the number of cases of swine flu in the U.S. rises to 20.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/

Crazy. Looks like it's up here now too.

KT

Shit, it's in Ohio?

And I go to the largest university in the country, massive compared to others in the State.

We're doomed men! I :heart: you guys. Will miss you.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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www.anyf.ca
Not scared at all. Not the first time it hits, and not the last. If I was in the category of people that can die from it, then I'd be a little worried, and probably avoid going out more then I have to.

I also work in a hospital, so we get more serious outbreaks then that. The latest one is C difficile. I don't really work in the medical area though so I'm pretty much safe.

I loled at this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...glass_Gordon_AYool.jpg

Imagine a contractor sneaking that into a catholic church construction project.
 

ja1484

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Dec 31, 2007
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Not scared at all. Not the first time it hits, and not the last. If I was in the category of people that can die from it, then I'd be a little worried, and probably avoid going out more then I have to.

I also work in a hospital, so we get more serious outbreaks then that. The latest one is C difficile. I don't really work in the medical area though so I'm pretty much safe.

I loled at this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...glass_Gordon_AYool.jpg

Imagine a contractor sneaking that into a catholic church construction project.


C-diff is no problem anyway unless you're already weakened from another sickness. Relax.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Not scared at all. Not the first time it hits, and not the last. If I was in the category of people that can die from it, then I'd be a little worried, and probably avoid going out more then I have to.

I also work in a hospital, so we get more serious outbreaks then that. The latest one is C difficile. I don't really work in the medical area though so I'm pretty much safe.

I loled at this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...glass_Gordon_AYool.jpg

Imagine a contractor sneaking that into a catholic church construction project.


C-diff is no problem anyway unless you're already weakened from another sickness. Relax.

I had it once a few years ago, not pleasant at all. But way I see it, since I managed to contract it, I doubt I'll get it again. I have a pretty good immune system. When I got it was after I got a boile infection and I was in the process of getting in treated so my guess is my immune system was weak at that time due to the infection.

So yeah, not worried of getting that again.
 

ja1484

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Dec 31, 2007
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Not scared at all. Not the first time it hits, and not the last. If I was in the category of people that can die from it, then I'd be a little worried, and probably avoid going out more then I have to.

I also work in a hospital, so we get more serious outbreaks then that. The latest one is C difficile. I don't really work in the medical area though so I'm pretty much safe.

I loled at this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...glass_Gordon_AYool.jpg

Imagine a contractor sneaking that into a catholic church construction project.


C-diff is no problem anyway unless you're already weakened from another sickness. Relax.

I had it once a few years ago, not pleasant at all. But way I see it, since I managed to contract it, I doubt I'll get it again. I have a pretty good immune system. When I got it was after I got a boile infection and I was in the process of getting in treated so my guess is my immune system was weak at that time due to the infection.

So yeah, not worried of getting that again.


No guess about it, it wasn't the other infection it was the antibiotics. It's well known that C-diff can't compete with the natural flora in your gut. People have problems with C-Diff when they're already on antibiotics for another infection or problem (like you were), which eradicates some of the natural bacteria in your GI tract lowering the competition level and allowing C-Diff to actually do something.

Most anyone who's ever been in a hospital is C-Diff colonized. It's not a problem under normal circumstances.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
28,799
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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Not scared at all. Not the first time it hits, and not the last. If I was in the category of people that can die from it, then I'd be a little worried, and probably avoid going out more then I have to.

I also work in a hospital, so we get more serious outbreaks then that. The latest one is C difficile. I don't really work in the medical area though so I'm pretty much safe.

I loled at this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...glass_Gordon_AYool.jpg

Imagine a contractor sneaking that into a catholic church construction project.


C-diff is no problem anyway unless you're already weakened from another sickness. Relax.

I had it once a few years ago, not pleasant at all. But way I see it, since I managed to contract it, I doubt I'll get it again. I have a pretty good immune system. When I got it was after I got a boile infection and I was in the process of getting in treated so my guess is my immune system was weak at that time due to the infection.

So yeah, not worried of getting that again.


No guess about it, it wasn't the other infection it was the antibiotics. It's well known that C-diff can't compete with the natural flora in your gut. People have problems with C-Diff when they're already on antibiotics for another infection or problem (like you were), which eradicates some of the natural bacteria in your GI tract lowering the competition level and allowing C-Diff to actually do something.

Most anyone who's ever been in a hospital is C-Diff colonized. It's not a problem under normal circumstances.

This. C. Diff is typically already present in your body at any moment, but your natural gut flora make it a non-problem. Antibiotics sometimes wipe out that flora and C. Diff survives and reproduce like mad and their toxin they produce then gives you all that fun. It's not really going to be something that gets passed around from person to person, it's something that is found in environments where antibiotics are used heavily. Not even sure if the environment produces a favorable spot by having the bug in the environment itself, of if its strictly the use of antibiotics that causes the problems. Maybe it residing in the environment helps jump 'infection' rates up by increasing reproduction rates, and thus toxin production rates.
 

Jack Flash

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Sep 10, 2006
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Break out the lysol spray! In all seriousness, though, I probably will be limiting how much I go out to stores and restaurants over the next several weeks until a better understanding is had.
 
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