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poopaskoopa

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Meh. Trump did the right thing. You can't fire Omarosa Jr this early in the game. That'd kill the buzz too early!
 
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: brigden
Let's get this straight, you guys, nerds on an internet forum, who have, by large, have accomplished fvck all, disagree with a man who's ranked 92nd in the Top 400 Richest Americans.

I'm going to go on a limb here and put just a little more faith in his decision.

I agree completely with his decision, his justifications, and I'm frankly blown away that you lot are arguing about it.

Firing people who may or may not have performed adequately in one specific situation that was subject to God knows how many factors influencing outcome versus a schmuck who put his neck on the line to serve no greater purpose that to stroke his own cock is a no-brainer.

Bradford made an incredibly stupid (arrogant) move that, in the real world, might have cost someone a substantial amount of money. Never mind about individuals not up to the task, they'll be weeded out later.

Trump was, in my opinion, completely correct in his decision.
Well put. But in this situation, when there are obviously other people on the line who performed horribly compared to him, Trump should be smart enough to let it slide. That's the great thing about this situation, is that Trump can make his point to Bradford, but not punish him by throwing away any chance he had. I'd rather have a cocky guy try to stroke his own cock than those two half-witted girls (Ivanna and Stacey).

But if you keep on letting him stroke his cock, he's gonna shoot all over someone at some point.
Ok, the analogies have gotten out of hand (pun intended).

I think in this situation, Trump should've scared him a bit and kept him in check.
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: brigden
Let's get this straight, you guys, nerds on an internet forum, who have, by large, have accomplished fvck all, disagree with a man who's ranked 92nd in the Top 400 Richest Americans.

I'm going to go on a limb here and put just a little more faith in his decision.

I agree completely with his decision, his justifications, and I'm frankly blown away that you lot are arguing about it.

Firing people who may or may not have performed adequately in one specific situation that was subject to God knows how many factors influencing outcome versus a schmuck who put his neck on the line to serve no greater purpose that to stroke his own cock is a no-brainer.

Bradford made an incredibly stupid (arrogant) move that, in the real world, might have cost someone a substantial amount of money. Never mind about individuals not up to the task, they'll be weeded out later.

Trump was, in my opinion, completely correct in his decision.

So Trump feels that someone who is cocky and arrogant would make bad business decisions... Trump is a cocky, arrogant guy and seems to have done pretty well for himself. I think it's incorrect to assume that what Bradford did would translate into bad business decisions. He acted cocky in a situation where really there should have been no risk. He was the best player on the team, and if you ignore the element of risk that Trump imposed on him for his decision, then there was no chance of him getting fired. To say that he would act the same way in a situation where millions of dollars could be at stake is idiotic. As is assuming that we're all nerds who have accomplished "fvck all."
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: brigden
Let's get this straight, you guys, nerds on an internet forum, who have, by large, have accomplished fvck all, disagree with a man who's ranked 92nd in the Top 400 Richest Americans.

I'm going to go on a limb here and put just a little more faith in his decision.

I agree completely with his decision, his justifications, and I'm frankly blown away that you lot are arguing about it.

Firing people who may or may not have performed adequately in one specific situation that was subject to God knows how many factors influencing outcome versus a schmuck who put his neck on the line to serve no greater purpose that to stroke his own cock is a no-brainer.

Bradford made an incredibly stupid (arrogant) move that, in the real world, might have cost someone a substantial amount of money. Never mind about individuals not up to the task, they'll be weeded out later.

Trump was, in my opinion, completely correct in his decision.
Well put. But in this situation, when there are obviously other people on the line who performed horribly compared to him, Trump should be smart enough to let it slide. That's the great thing about this situation, is that Trump can make his point to Bradford, but not punish him by throwing away any chance he had. I'd rather have a cocky guy try to stroke his own cock than those two half-witted girls (Ivanna and Stacey).

You're just slightly missing the point that Trump made. These people are going through a job interview of sorts, right? They've got ample time to prove themselves, as well as many opportunities to make mistakes.

Look at the big picture, especially from Trump's POV; poor performance, even incompetance, during a task is one thing, but to make a foolhardy and moronically impulsive move like Bradford's during a relatively controlled situation, particularly when you're already totally 100% safe, tells Trump that this guy is a wildcard and probably unreliable.

Right there he has an excellent indication that this individual, no matter how sucessful, is likely to make a similar decision. That decision could have been worth an incredible amount of money.

The people who did poorly during the last task may or may not have had their performances influenced by factors beyond their control. They will, if continualy weak, be slowly culled from the group and fired.

The difference is, Bradford, like a pure schmuck, made a critical mistake while having the luxury of control.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Meh. Trump did the right thing. You can't fire Omarosa Jr this early in the game. That'd kill the buzz too early!

I think that's exactly why he did it (sort of). Firing Bradford added to the drama/excitement/unpredictability, made for better TV. Stacie J. and the conflict she brings makes for better TV. Even Carolyn seemed to be playing for the cameras tonight, she got all pissed off for no real reason, she didn't do that much last season.

Originally posted by: brigden
Look at the big picture, especially from Trump's POV; poor performance, even incompetance, during a task is one thing, but to make a foolhardy and moronically impulsive move like Bradford's during a relatively controlled situation, particularly when you're already totally 100% safe, tells Trump that this guy is a wildcard and probably unreliable.

I think I'd rather give Bradford another week and see how he does than Ivanna.
 

brigden

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Dec 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Meh. Trump did the right thing. You can't fire Omarosa Jr this early in the game. That'd kill the buzz too early!

I think that's exactly why he did it (sort of). Firing Bradford added to the drama/excitement/unpredictability, made for better TV. Stacie J. and the conflict she brings makes for better TV. Even Carolyn seemed to be playing for the cameras tonight, she got all pissed off for no real reason, she didn't do that much last season.

She was pissed off because she could see straight through Bradford's schtick.
 

SSP

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: brigden
Let's get this straight, you guys, nerds on an internet forum, who have, by large, have accomplished fvck all, disagree with a man who's ranked 92nd in the Top 400 Richest Americans.

I'm going to go on a limb here and put just a little more faith in his decision.

I agree completely with his decision, his justifications, and I'm frankly blown away that you lot are arguing about it.

Firing people who may or may not have performed adequately in one specific situation that was subject to God knows how many factors influencing outcome versus a schmuck who put his neck on the line to serve no greater purpose that to stroke his own cock is a no-brainer.

Bradford made an incredibly stupid (arrogant) move that, in the real world, might have cost someone a substantial amount of money. Never mind about individuals not up to the task, they'll be weeded out later.

Trump was, in my opinion, completely correct in his decision.
Well put. But in this situation, when there are obviously other people on the line who performed horribly compared to him, Trump should be smart enough to let it slide. That's the great thing about this situation, is that Trump can make his point to Bradford, but not punish him by throwing away any chance he had. I'd rather have a cocky guy try to stroke his own cock than those two half-witted girls (Ivanna and Stacey).

You're just slightly missing the point that Trump made. These people are going through a job interview of sorts, right? They've got ample time to prove themselves, as well as many opportunities to make mistakes.

Look at the big picture, especially from Trump's POV; poor performance, even incompetance, during a task is one thing, but to make a foolhardy and moronically impulsive move like Bradford's during a relatively controlled situation, particularly when you're already totally 100% safe, tells Trump that this guy is a wildcard and probably unreliable.

Right there he has an excellent indication that this individual, no matter how sucessful, is likely to make a similar decision. That decision could have been worth an incredible amount of money.

The people who did poorly during the last task may or may not have had their performances influenced by factors beyond their control. They will, if continualy weak, be slowly culled from the group and fired.

The difference is, Bradford, like a pure schmuck, made a critical mistake while having the luxury of control.

You're right about that one. I was thinking this guy was a bit over active/eager in some of his decisions in the past.
 

SSP

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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He had immunity. He gave it up in the board room to show that he was confident he did an 'amazing job'.

So he got canned.
 

gotsmack

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Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
I only saw the end of the episode. What'd Bradford do?

Nothing, he is just a stage presence, he has no substance. that is why he did so well at selling ice cream, all he had to do was be his normal every day "look at me, I don't care about you" character.


He was lucky that the girls had a back up plan last time to save his ass. He is the weakest player as far as guys go.

I mean look at what he did in today's episode. He didn't come up with the product, location, or an idea of how to sell it. All he did was just push icecream on the street by being a loud mouth.


Wes is shown to be a weak player today too.

For the guys so far my money is on, Raj and Kelly.

Pam will go far but she won't make it to the end.
 

glugglug

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Jun 9, 2002
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The REAL reason Bradford was fired:

All girl team => catfights => ratings

BTW, I missed half of tonite's ep -- where is the best place to pick up a torrent of it?
 

CrazyDe1

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Originally posted by: SSP
He had immunity. He gave it up in the board room to show that he was confident he did an 'amazing job'.

So he got canned.

That's it?

I figured he did something illegal. Trump did say if he had done that in a regular company it could have ruined the company. How would that ruin a company?
 

thejackal1

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Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Originally posted by: SSP
He had immunity. He gave it up in the board room to show that he was confident he did an 'amazing job'.

So he got canned.

That's it?

I figured he did something illegal. Trump did say if he had done that in a regular company it could have ruined the company. How would that ruin a company?

Becuase he made a stupid @ss mistake.

Stupid @ss mistake = company downhill
 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Let's put it this way. Bradford shouldn't have even been in there.

He opened his own dumbass self to be fired and THAT is why Trump fired him. He had IMMUNITY, so what the hell was he trying to prove? He knew he did a good job, everyone knew he did a good job. He even did a great job last week. Take your freebie and go upstairs and watch some anime pr0n or something, but don't do stupid sh!t like this.

Brad was simply being confident in his performance, and I bet he didnt really plan on what he said. Trump caught him when he spoke those words, an challenged him immediately, which he took. Brad was caught in the heat of the moment

IMO trump is making a mountain out of a mole hill

What bradford said might be stupid, but trump's action is even MORE stupid

I will not watch this show again, that decision just kills the whole show. It clearly shows that trump is not concerned in finding the best performer, but simply the one he likes best



 

her209

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Well put. But in this situation, when there are obviously other people on the line who performed horribly compared to him, Trump should be smart enough to let it slide. That's the great thing about this situation, is that Trump can make his point to Bradford, but not punish him by throwing away any chance he had. I'd rather have a cocky guy try to stroke his own cock than those two half-witted girls (Ivanna and Stacey).
Yea, seriously, he was the only guy on the team.
 

Yossarian

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oh man I loved how mean Carolyn was in the boardroom :evil: So many good bits... the "grow a set of boobs" line, the vendor kicking them off their corner, cleaning out Dunkin Donuts "put all the donuts in the bag and no one gets hurt", Raj busting out a dozen bow ties for the team, I was dying!!!

I completely agree w/Trump's decision. Bradford seems to be the kind of guy who would bet the entire company on one spin of the wheel because he was feeling cocky that day.

I have a little thing going for Ivana She has some extreme Asian cuteness going on.

This is by far my favorite show on tv right now.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: thejackal1
Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Originally posted by: SSP
He had immunity. He gave it up in the board room to show that he was confident he did an 'amazing job'.

So he got canned.

That's it?

I figured he did something illegal. Trump did say if he had done that in a regular company it could have ruined the company. How would that ruin a company?

Becuase he made a stupid @ss mistake.

Stupid @ss mistake = company downhill

that was not a stupid ass mistake

a reasonable person deciding would not fire him

trump is clearly not a reasonable person
 

BaboonGuy

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: NFS4
Let's put it this way. Bradford shouldn't have even been in there.

He opened his own dumbass self to be fired and THAT is why Trump fired him. He had IMMUNITY, so what the hell was he trying to prove? He knew he did a good job, everyone knew he did a good job. He even did a great job last week. Take your freebie and go upstairs and watch some anime pr0n or something, but don't do stupid sh!t like this.

Brad was simply being confident in his performance, and I bet he didnt really plan on what he said. Trump caught him when he spoke those words, an challenged him immediately, which he took. Brad was caught in the heat of the moment

IMO trump is making a mountain out of a mole hill

What bradford said might be stupid, but trump's action is even MORE stupid

I will not watch this show again, that decision just kills the whole show. It clearly shows that trump is not concerned in finding the best performer, but simply the one he likes best

Not true. Trump is smart, he is business savvy, firing Bradford was the right thing to do. Think about it, this show is for a job where you run a company of Trump's. If you're in the boardroom with Trump, trying to make a deal with another company. And then you GIVE something up for NOTHING, something VERY important, extremely important, that's a huge error. Trump doesn't can't have somebody that weak go negotiate or run or business with him, so he fired Bradford.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
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Originally posted by: glugglug
The REAL reason Bradford was fired:

All girl team => catfights => ratings

BTW, I missed half of tonite's ep -- where is the best place to pick up a torrent of it?

I agree

its is very certain that bradford will NEVER win the whole show. He simply dont have the looks/charisma

bradford also have no mass appeal, bradford being fired created MUCH more controversy than if he is still on the show.

ivana and stacy on the other hand have to be there for the ratings. Stacy is the only black female, and ivana is the only asian female (if I am not mistaken)

oh and yeah stacy is omarosa version 2.0


 

BaboonGuy

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
oh man I loved how mean Carolyn was in the boardroom :evil: So many good bits... the "grow a set of boobs" line, the vendor kicking them off their corner, cleaning out Dunkin Donuts "put all the donuts in the bag and no one gets hurt", Raj busting out a dozen bow ties for the team, I was dying!!!

I completely agree w/Trump's decision. Bradford seems to be the kind of guy who would bet the entire company on one spin of the wheel because he was feeling cocky that day.

I have a little thing going for Ivana She has some extreme Asian cuteness going on.

This is by far my favorite show on tv right now.

As an asian myself I wanted Ivana to get fired, she's making us look bad, really bad.

Personally I think Stacy J is the strongest female. I could see her successfully leading a company, unlike all these other pretty faces with no spines. Hopefully she gets to be a project manager some where down the line.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: NFS4
Let's put it this way. Bradford shouldn't have even been in there.

He opened his own dumbass self to be fired and THAT is why Trump fired him. He had IMMUNITY, so what the hell was he trying to prove? He knew he did a good job, everyone knew he did a good job. He even did a great job last week. Take your freebie and go upstairs and watch some anime pr0n or something, but don't do stupid sh!t like this.

Brad was simply being confident in his performance, and I bet he didnt really plan on what he said. Trump caught him when he spoke those words, an challenged him immediately, which he took. Brad was caught in the heat of the moment

IMO trump is making a mountain out of a mole hill

What bradford said might be stupid, but trump's action is even MORE stupid

I will not watch this show again, that decision just kills the whole show. It clearly shows that trump is not concerned in finding the best performer, but simply the one he likes best

Not true. Trump is smart, he is business savvy, firing Bradford was the right thing to do. Think about it, this show is for a job where you run a company of Trump's. If you're in the boardroom with Trump, trying to make a deal with another company. And then you GIVE something up for NOTHING, something VERY important, extremely important, that's a huge error. Trump doesn't can't have somebody that weak go negotiate or run or business with him, so he fired Bradford.

any reasonable person would not fire him over this

this is totally different than making a decision that would destroy an entire company.

he was simply being overconfident, and trump was simply being unreasoanble by firing him

IMO the thought of REALLY firing brad entered trump's mind when ivana changed her mind, and decided to bring brad in the board room as well.

see my post regarding the ratings
 

z0mb13

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
Originally posted by: Yossarian
oh man I loved how mean Carolyn was in the boardroom :evil: So many good bits... the "grow a set of boobs" line, the vendor kicking them off their corner, cleaning out Dunkin Donuts "put all the donuts in the bag and no one gets hurt", Raj busting out a dozen bow ties for the team, I was dying!!!

I completely agree w/Trump's decision. Bradford seems to be the kind of guy who would bet the entire company on one spin of the wheel because he was feeling cocky that day.

I have a little thing going for Ivana She has some extreme Asian cuteness going on.

This is by far my favorite show on tv right now.

As an asian myself I wanted Ivana to get fired, she's making us look bad, really bad.

Personally I think Stacy J is the strongest female. I could see her successfully leading a company, unlike all these other pretty faces with no spines. Hopefully she gets to be a project manager some where down the line.

I am asian. IMO ivana is not good looking at all
 
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