Official "The Sims 2" Thread

[Modeps]

I'm going to have to agree somewhat with CVSiN here, Win2k was not designed for a gaming OS. They did improve compatibility o'er the years but it's just not a great gaming OS. Will things work? Sure. Will they always work properly? Doubtful.

 

[bamacre]

I simply don't care.

The game manufacturer says the game works with Windows 2000. That's the bottom line.

 

[mverdu]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I simply don't care.

The game manufacturer says the game works with Windows 2000. That's the bottom line.

Quit your bitching and go create a spreadsheet or something on your W2K box.

 

[wallsfd949]

I'm amazed at how poor coding (read Sims 2) has turned into a flame war. If the software I write doesn't work well on Linux, I'm not going to put that down in the 'System Requirements'. Is that the evil marketing dept. ? If the game needs XP and 2GB of RAM and only works well with a 9600PRO, then charge $1300 for the game and throw in a PC that will work with it.

I think everyone is missing the point here. The system requirements include 98, 2000, and XP. If my system meets the minimum requirements for a game, I expect it to work with very little / no modification to my setup. You children are just as bad as the 16 y/o girls policing the Sims 2's forums downplaying poorly coded software and telling people their system just isn't good enough to run the game. Maybe they need to change the side of the box to say "SYSTEM REQUIREMENT : YOU MAY NEED TO GET A NEW PC WITH THESE EXACT SPECS..... OTHERWISE THE GAME MAY OR MAY NOT RUN CORRECTLY CAUSE WE CANT CODE.."

 

[EviLRas]

this hurts my brain...


Rascle

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: wallsfd949
I'm amazed at how poor coding (read Sims 2) has turned into a flame war. If the software I write doesn't work well on Linux, I'm not going to put that down in the 'System Requirements'. Is that the evil marketing dept. ? If the game needs XP and 2GB of RAM and only works well with a 9600PRO, then charge $1300 for the game and throw in a PC that will work with it.

I think everyone is missing the point here. The system requirements include 98, 2000, and XP. If my system meets the minimum requirements for a game, I expect it to work with very little / no modification to my setup. You children are just as bad as the 16 y/o girls policing the Sims 2's forums downplaying poorly coded software and telling people their system just isn't good enough to run the game. Maybe they need to change the side of the box to say "SYSTEM REQUIREMENT : YOU MAY NEED TO GET A NEW PC WITH THESE EXACT SPECS..... OTHERWISE THE GAME MAY OR MAY NOT RUN CORRECTLY CAUSE WE CANT CODE.."

Thank you.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I simply don't care.

The game manufacturer says the game works with Windows 2000. That's the bottom line.

You are right...it should work fine.
Unfortunately though, you are using an old OS...& seeing as this is Windows we are talking about, that's not a good thing.

If 2000 is really that great, than why does this poll look so decisive?

 

[wallsfd949]

We are totally missing the point here.

The only thing I can come up with is that in order to sell more licenses, the software vendor decided to 'sugar coat' the side of the box so that it would appear that the game will run on 90% of most peoples machines (why would they put Windows 98 on there). Then when the software wouldn't load or run properly, they would already have the game (pumping up sales #'s) and either buy a new machine that it will run on, shelf it, or go through the hastle of returning it to the vendor. Most customers have kids/teens that will piss and moan until they get a new machine (which is a whole other issue in itself I won't get into).

This is one of two things :

Marketing genious or POS coding.

If this were a Microsoft product with this much unstability, would you be so quick to defend it and tell everyone else that their system was not enough to run it but since you have the uber system you can run it just fine?

 

[Megatomic]

I just got The Sims 2 tonight. It's installed and ready to go, I just need to finish Doom 3 before I dive in. It looks really cool and my buddy at work got it a week ago and is having a blast with it. I hope I do, too.

 

[electified]

I just got the Sims 2 for my girlfriends birthday because she always played the other ones. Haven't had a chance to see it in action yet but am hoping for good things.

 

[Megatomic]

As god is my witness I will finish Doom 3 tonight so that I can start on Sims 2.

 

[skace]

ROFL, I forgot to click back into this thread. It went from bad to worse. People hammering on 2000 like its a bad OS. Last time I checked, people have been gaming on Windows 2000 since it was released. It has NEVER been considered a bad, buggy or otherwise OS. There was originally problems with Windows 2000 and lack of support for random periphrals such as Webcams and other external devices that were still coding their drivers to Windows 95 / 98. THOSE ISSUES DIED LONG AGO. Holy sh!t I never expected so many retarded posts.

 

[Cerebus451]

Originally posted by: skace
ROFL, I forgot to click back into this thread. It went from bad to worse. People hammering on 2000 like its a bad OS. Last time I checked, people have been gaming on Windows 2000 since it was released. It has NEVER been considered a bad, buggy or otherwise OS. There was originally problems with Windows 2000 and lack of support for random periphrals such as Webcams and other external devices that were still coding their drivers to Windows 95 / 98. THOSE ISSUES DIED LONG AGO. Holy sh!t I never expected so many retarded posts.

Since you are such a Win2K expert, then you must also know that it would be impossible for TheSims2 to be causing a Win2K system to spontaneously reboot. The whole operating system is designed to prevent this very possibility. The problem is more likely a device driver conflict. Same goes for bamacre. TheSims2 cannot eject your DVD. It could only request that the operating system ask the device driver to do so. If the device driver is erroneously reporting that the DVD has been ejected, the the poor coding lies in the device driver for your DVD drive, not TheSims2.

Also, to those complaining about Win2K being listed as a valid OS for the game when it "obviously" wasn't tested there, I can guarantee it was. I can bet there are at least 100 Win2K machines that ran the game flawlessly. The problem is, they cannot test the billions of possible combinations of hardware that could possibly exist in a machine, let alone the billion trillion possible combinations of outdated hardware driver combinations that could be causing problems. I doubt very many people that have Win2k are actually having difficulty running the game, and those that are having difficulty should verify that they are running the latest WHQL certified drivers for all of their hardware.

If a game causes a conflict between hardware drivers, don't blame the game developer, blame the hardware manufacturer. It is their responsibility to get their devices to work properly.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. I haven't actually installed the game yet, so I can't say whether or not I will have problems, but typically unless everyone has the same problem, the likely culprit will be either faulty hardware or faulty hardware drivers on the particular machine having the problem, not the game itself.

 

[waggy]

fricken game ticks me off!

I can't even install the damn game! i get G:\install.exe is not a valid win32 aplication or some such crap.

I even tried to make a iso but that didnt work. fricken POS@! ahh

 

[CrackaLackaZe]

The Sims 2 Requirement checker from ServoPro says my Built by ATI AIW 9600 is not T&L?

 

[ohtwell]

I've been playing this game a lot recently. I really like it. I love that you can choose more than one outfit for your Sim to wear. This version is a lot better IMO.


: ) Amanda

 

[Modeps]

I made a house with my virtual wife and virtual me, and we've been working on having a baby and having good jobs. One day, this blonde comes over and by accident when I'm controlling my wife's virtual self, I click on the blonde, and click flirt. The blonde responds positively to the flirt. My virtual self is in the room and goes over, smacks virtual wife a few times across the face and becomes very depressed. It takes 3 days before they're back humping like rabbits. However, during thoes three days, the blonde and my wife have also been humping... now, Virtual me is very happy with his life and doesnt know virtual wife is humping another chick behind his back... oh, and virtual wife is also pregnant now. what twists and turns will come next?!

 

[iamwiz82]

My family is a psychofest I started with the Burb family and after 3 generations, I now have one male spawn of the original family with 6 women and a baby. I have gone through somewhere in the range of 10 babies all together, with the male head of household being the only one that Child Services hasn't taken away. :Q

 

[Megatomic]

You guys sure are having fun with this game. I wish I had time to play, my copy is going to waste on me.

 

[Basilisk]

</Snarl on>
Sims2 is the most Not Ready For Prime Time game I've run since "S.W.I.N.E." I'll ignore the numerous s/w bugs and flame about the worst error (to me) -- one they consciously made! The idiots who wrote/packaged it require that it be RUN with Admin privilieges under WinXP.

It's acceptible to require Admin for installation, but it is -NOT- acceptable to require all players to know -that- password.

Givng everyone the Admin password obliterates security: private information -- the sort of stuff many adults have, like financial records, investment account access, medical and legal records, home business files -- is at greatly increased risk of compromise or corruption when all the family and their friends have Admin access to the system. "RunAs [Admin]" requires the real Admin password and that gives everyone access to everything. Few other games -- none that I've ever used -- make that demand.

I wouldn't have bought Sims2 had I known of this feature. Now I'm trying to decide whether to return the unopened Sims2 I bought as a gift. I presume EA's reason has something to do with Copy Protection, but this is completely unacceptable and I hope they post a patch to remove the requirement.
<</Snarl off>

 

[amcdonald]

I'll agree that it's inane that a player has to be logged in with admin privileges to play...
but why are you allowing people to play games on a computer with your sensitive information?
Maybe you can place passwords on sensitive information contained within programs (like quicken). Just a thought.

 

[Basilisk]

Originally posted by: amcdonald
I'll agree that it's inane that a player has to be logged in with admin privileges to play...
but why are you allowing people to play games on a computer with your sensitive information?

Wasn't my computer; isn't my decision as to what's there or how it's managed. I was just helping them get Sims2 up and running. And, it's their home computer: can't argue that everyone should have multiple computers even if I'm dumb enough to have such. I thought XP was supposed to offer M$'s best approach to account security...

I did pre-order a Sims2 copy to give friends who are Sims addicts, but one is a Sys Admin and will howl at me when she see's EA's unprofessional approach!

 

[ohtwell]

Well, the other day my Sim had an unfortunate accident. After turning into an old lady, Margo decided to go for a swim in her rather small pool. Eventually she got tired and wanted to go to bed. Too bad there was no way for her to get out. Somebody removed the ladder. evil;

I was just curious about whether or not it would still let you do that.


: ) Amanda

 

[AU Tiger]

This is my first time playing any Sims game and so far so good. Several days had passed in the game before I realized that if I bought a phone I could call people over instead of waiting for them to walk by the house.

 

[jaykleg]

Originally posted by: Basilisk
</Snarl on>
Sims2 is the most Not Ready For Prime Time game I've run since "S.W.I.N.E." I'll ignore the numerous s/w bugs and flame about the worst error (to me) -- one they consciously made! The idiots who wrote/packaged it require that it be RUN with Admin privilieges under WinXP.

It's acceptible to require Admin for installation, but it is -NOT- acceptable to require all players to know -that- password.

Givng everyone the Admin password obliterates security: private information -- the sort of stuff many adults have, like financial records, investment account access, medical and legal records, home business files -- is at greatly increased risk of compromise or corruption when all the family and their friends have Admin access to the system. "RunAs [Admin]" requires the real Admin password and that gives everyone access to everything. Few other games -- none that I've ever used -- make that demand.

I wouldn't have bought Sims2 had I known of this feature. Now I'm trying to decide whether to return the unopened Sims2 I bought as a gift. I presume EA's reason has something to do with Copy Protection, but this is completely unacceptable and I hope they post a patch to remove the requirement.
<</Snarl off>

If this is Windows XP Professional why not make use of runas with the /savecred switch in the shortcut's target field for non-admin accounts? The non-admin users won't need to know the admin password. Of course the /savecred switch doesn't work in Home Edition.