I watched it, and Joe did a little better than I expected. I've commented on Joe's deteriorating mental health for a while now (and get blasted with denials every time I mention it), so I'm surprised that it's suddenly being discussed openly. From my point of view, Joe did alright for an old guy who's mind has slowed considerably. I never thought he'd make it through the last 4 years.Did you watch the first half hour? Cuz I did and it was a complete shit show. Trump was trump, as you said, but Biden looked and sounded absolutely terrible. Compare it to his SOTU address, night and day.
Democrats in general just need to stop being so defense (and you see that in Biden when he's speaking to the debate watch party after the debate): constantly point out that Trump is a convicted felon and liar. And the idiot punditry class needs to stop acting like only Democrats have agency. Where are the calls for the Republican party to replace the top of their ticket after 34 felony convictions?Lol it’s not even to SOTU. The clips after the debate, totally different Biden. It was more like you’re not allowed to drink water because you have to hold it in for 90 minutes.
Not just pundits. Just watch the Pod Save America podcast and they were talking about Biden stepping down. They do say ultimately it's up to Biden. Either he stays in or bows out, until others can't step in.The news and pundit industries thrive on close races. Keep that in mind when evaluating their hot takes.
I would consider PSA a part of the pundit class. I don't know why they turn the focus so inwardly instead of hammering home that Republicans need to clean their own house. Stop acting like Republicans are some foreign, unstoppable force (because this actually helps to normalize their insanity).Not just pundits. Just watch the Pod Save America podcast and they were talking about Biden stepping down. They do say ultimately it's up to Biden. Either he stays in or bows out, until others can't step in.
The frustrating thing is that Biden has been a good president and has gotten many wins. It's a shame he can't present it to the people better.
Well as Biden said, over 3/4 of the orange monkey cabinet won’t endorse him. The other day, both Adam Kinzinger and Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan officially endorsed Biden.I would consider PSA a part of the pundit class. I don't know why they turn the focus so inwardly instead of hammering home that Republicans need to clean their own house. Stop acting like Republicans are some foreign, unstoppable force (because this actually helps to normalize their insanity).
Where are all the OpEds in major outlets calling for Trump to step aside from his legal troubles and felony convictions?
I know that's true. I'm just talking about the media infrastructure in general. It's built entirely around a "both sides" horse race, constantly ignoring the elephant in the roomWell as Biden said, over 3/4 of the orange monkey cabinet won’t endorse him. The other day, both Adam Kinzinger and Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan officially endorsed Biden.
I know that's true. I'm just talking about the media infrastructure in general. It's built entirely around a "both sides" horse race, constantly ignoring the elephant in the room
Biden said a bunch of stuff that goes to the heart of the matter. Who noticed? Some of it I did because I was familiar with the issues. He won some of the gorounds. Was he good at hammering the points home? No, a lot of the time, but the points were there, whispered, because he wasn't in good voice some of the time. Fact checking should give a big edge to Joe, FWIW. Holing up for 3-4 days with 10 coaches may have been a blunder, especially if someone gave him a cold.I only watched for 20 minutes and I heard more than 30 lies.
You don' t have an assessment of Trump?I watched it, and Joe did a little better than I expected. I've commented on Joe's deteriorating mental health for a while now (and get blasted with denials every time I mention it), so I'm surprised that it's suddenly being discussed openly. From my point of view, Joe did alright for an old guy who's mind has slowed considerably. I never thought he'd make it through the last 4 years.
That was where I got my first impression. I did not watch the debate itself.How the fuck does Trump think he will solve the Ukraine war before he takes office?
Jon Stewart's analysis. Jon Stewart's Debate Analysis: Trump's Blatant Lies and Biden's Senior Moments | The Daily Show
Biden said a bunch of stuff that goes to the heart of the matter. Who noticed? Some of it I did because I was familiar with the issues. He won some of the gorounds. Was he good at hammering the points home? No, a lot of the time, but the points were there, whispered, because he wasn't in good voice some of the time. Fact checking should give a big edge to Joe, FWIW. Holing up for 3-4 days with 10 coaches may have been a blunder, especially if someone gave him a cold.
Putin loves him moreCan anyone name ANYTHING of substance claimed by Trump that was true?
And Democrats would blanket the country with proofs that California is the cornicopia of the nation. Which counts for more?The suggestions that Newsom could step in is laughable. The conservatives will just blanket the country with homelessness ads and he’ll be finished.
He won all his clubs' championships... because he's the boss and the fix is his to make.Putin loves him more
Yea, went by a lot of people I suppose. Said 40 of the 46 of Trump's revolving door cabinet won't endorse him for 2024. Joe just dropped it in at the end of one of his spiels. That's BIG, though.Well as Biden said, over 3/4 of the orange monkey cabinet won’t endorse him. The other day, both Adam Kinzinger and Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan officially endorsed Biden.
The one guy said Trump had an answer for everything but everything was a lie. That made it easier for Trump.Ultimately I think the attitudes of the people who actually watched this thing are largely going to be what they were before hand: unsatisfied with both choices. Trump's performance was also a disaster as illuminated when people are asked what they thought about him and what he said.
And because of winner take all, first past the post elections.
If you do popular vote and ranked choice, all of the sudden parties become a lot less powerful in picking the winner.
JFC, it’s been eight years since Bernie failed to get the nomination, get over yourself.