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umbrella39

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Penn may have won but Diego stood with him for nearly 5 rounds and didn't loose by ko or submission. Penn didn't "dominate" the fight - he stalked and countered but couldn't ever finish - if you can't finish...well...thats hardly dominating in my opinion....

What? I'm sorry but when your opponent kicks a sideways vagina onto your forehead, you have been dominated.
 

randay

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What? I'm sorry but when your opponent kicks a sideways vagina onto your forehead, you have been dominated.

ROFLMAO

sanchez was dominating the running backwards in circles marathon!

its even funnier because BJ never kicks hah! ive always wondered why, but now we know. its because his opponents end up with sideways vaginas on their foreheads.
 

QueBert

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That fight was not even close....
Sanchez talked smack before the fight and during interviews and we just saw BJ do his speaking by totally whooping Sanchez`s ass....a total beat down for 5 rounds!!!
Penn could have finished the fight anytime he wanted.....Penn`s purpose was to humiliate Sanchez which he did!!

Penn did dominate, but he couldn't finish Sanchez. His corner kept telling him to "finish him!" before each round start and he never did. Sorry but you don't not finish a fight because you want to humiliate your opponent. As Mir showed, you ALWAYS finish at the first opening you get. Penn seemed a bit agitated that he couldn't end the fight. Penn tried his best to finish it on a couple occasions, but Sanchez has too good of a chin and too much heart. Penn didn't want it to go 5 rounds, and his corner damn sure didn't either. As much as BJ was tooling him, this is MMA and all it takes is 1 punch to change the whole fight. Look at Serra Vs Carter I. Matt tooled the shit out of Shonnie for all but 15 seconds of the fight. And in that final 15 seconds Shonnie hit a sick spinning back fist out of nowhere to KO Matt and win. Up until that point it was a 30-27 fight for Matt.

If BJ's dumb enough to actually not want to finish a fight to prove something. Then he deserves to lose, no fighter should be that arrogant.
 

RPD

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BJ put on a clinic, I was feeling bad for Diego after the 1st round, BJ never even sat down between rounds. BJ, like Anderson Silva are just in an entirely different league then the rest of the current offering at their respective weight classes. Well worth the PPV.

The next UFC however, I'm skipping.
 

RPD

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If BJ's dumb enough to actually not want to finish a fight to prove something. Then he deserves to lose, no fighter should be that arrogant.

When someone talks all that nonsense as Diego did before the fight, just like Kenny did previously, guess what come fight night he proved the challenger wrong yet again. All that intensity before the fight, all the talk just looks plain ridiculous when you watch the fight then go look back at the build up.

In the ring BJ isn't dumb, he's been the champ for a VERY long time, that doesn't happen by being dumb. Let it go, Diego isn't even close to the abilities BJ has.

I was upset about the Mir fight, it just sucks that they train for months and then the fight only lasts for seconds.. Just doesn't sit right with me. I just hope that weight he gained is all muscle so he can have a reasonable rematch vs. Brock.
 

isekii

Lifer
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At the end of the Fight.. BJ looked like he barely broke a sweat.
This guy is serious business. These fighters should keep their mouths shut instead of talking smack and getting rocked in the octagon.
 

meltdown75

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my favourite part of this UFC was Guida's burp while the doctor was checking his cut.

best. sports. burp. EVAR.
 

Miramonti

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Penn did dominate, but he couldn't finish Sanchez. His corner kept telling him to "finish him!" before each round start and he never did. Sorry but you don't not finish a fight because you want to humiliate your opponent. As Mir showed, you ALWAYS finish at the first opening you get. Penn seemed a bit agitated that he couldn't end the fight. Penn tried his best to finish it on a couple occasions, but Sanchez has too good of a chin and too much heart. Penn didn't want it to go 5 rounds, and his corner damn sure didn't either. As much as BJ was tooling him, this is MMA and all it takes is 1 punch to change the whole fight. Look at Serra Vs Carter I. Matt tooled the shit out of Shonnie for all but 15 seconds of the fight. And in that final 15 seconds Shonnie hit a sick spinning back fist out of nowhere to KO Matt and win. Up until that point it was a 30-27 fight for Matt.

If BJ's dumb enough to actually not want to finish a fight to prove something. Then he deserves to lose, no fighter should be that arrogant.

I think if Penn made it his goal of finishing Sanchez, he probably would have...probably that is. With the fight working so great in his favor simply exploiting Sanchez, there's not much reason to change the approach to go for a status win (ie early ko) at the risk of changing the whole dynamic of what's working, and risking a mistake by pressing too hard, standing up or on the ground.

On the other hand, if Penn was in a closer match, he wouldn't have risked it by not going after Sanchez.

When its all said and done, I'm sure much of Penn's decisions are based on instincts and his feel for the opponent. He's a great fighter and I thought he absolutely fought a great fight and made great decisions. He wasn't even winded enough to sit, while his opponent looked like he kissed a moving freight train at the end. I think the biggest beating Penn took was from himself after the fight than anything Sanchez tried to land. (except one uppercut.)
 

Woosta

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QueBert

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When someone talks all that nonsense as Diego did before the fight, just like Kenny did previously, guess what come fight night he proved the challenger wrong yet again. All that intensity before the fight, all the talk just looks plain ridiculous when you watch the fight then go look back at the build up.

In the ring BJ isn't dumb, he's been the champ for a VERY long time, that doesn't happen by being dumb. Let it go, Diego isn't even close to the abilities BJ has.

I was upset about the Mir fight, it just sucks that they train for months and then the fight only lasts for seconds.. Just doesn't sit right with me. I just hope that weight he gained is all muscle so he can have a reasonable rematch vs. Brock.

You don't not finish fights for any other reason then you couldn't finish it. BJ dominated Sanchez. I'm not even a Sanchez fan, but it's retarded for people to say "BJ just didn't want to finish him" BJ did what he had to do to win. If he had gotten careless Sanchez could have beat him. I don't care how much better one fighter is than another shit happens. Look at Sera Va GSP 1. That was a huge fluke, if they fought 20 more times GSP should easily win every one of them. GSP is a much better fighter than BJ too. So if GSP can get caught, BJ sure as hell could too. BJ couldn't have finished Sanchez or he would have. But he still beat his ass badly.
 
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Miramonti

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You don't not finish fights for any other reason then you couldn't finish it. BJ dominated Sanchez. I'm not even a Sanchez fan, but it's retarded for people to say "BJ just didn't want to finish him" BJ did what he had to do to win. If he had gotten careless Sanchez could have beat him. I don't care how much better one fighter is than another shit happens. Look at Sera Va GSP 1. That was a huge fluke, if they fought 20 more times GSP should easily win every one of them. GSP is a much better fighter than BJ too. So if GSP can get caught, BJ sure as hell could too. BJ couldn't have finished Sanchez or he would have. But he still beat his ass badly.

I agree with most except that BJ probably could have finished Sanchez since he was the much better and quicker fighter, but he didn't need to brawl with him or take him to the ground, both of which increase his risk.

If the fight was closer, ironically, the chances of penn finishing it off quicker would have increased since he would have gone after sanchez more and probably caught him with something earlier. Of course that opens up the risks you mentioned, and it was a great fight by penn to accomplish what he did without taking needless risks. It frustrated the hell out of sanchez that penn was so smart, and that made it even easier for penn to stick with his game plan imo.
 

randay

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You don't not finish fights for any other reason then you couldn't finish it. BJ dominated Sanchez. I'm not even a Sanchez fan, but it's retarded for people to say "BJ just didn't want to finish him" BJ did what he had to do to win. If he had gotten careless Sanchez could have beat him. I don't care how much better one fighter is than another shit happens. Look at Sera Va GSP 1. That was a huge fluke, if they fought 20 more times GSP should easily win every one of them. GSP is a much better fighter than BJ too. So if GSP can get caught, BJ sure as hell could too. BJ couldn't have finished Sanchez or he would have. But he still beat his ass badly.

Are you serious? BJ turned it up in the 5th round, he was going to try to finish the fight. doctor stoppage is debatable, but i would call that kick a high risk move when your up 4 rounds. if BJ didnt plan on finishing he wouldnt have thrown that.

On the other hand the bottom line is that the fight didnt go to a decision so therefore BJ finished sanchez. so quit whining. doctor stoppage is not the greatest but its not like BJ had a choice. the fact that he kicked a sideways vagina into sanchez forehead and the doctor stopped it is the real fluke here. Let face it, BJ cant kick
 
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