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murphy55d

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Wingznut, the one thing I don't agree with is your thought about Crawford. I saw the entire ordeal, including the aftermath, and it almost looked to me like he was standing there smirking behind the bench. He just had this smug expression on his face, and to me, it was quite disturbing. Lends credence to Brad May's statement about someone going to get it, when these teams played.

Just my opinion.
 

sandorski

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I hope this sh1t doesn't throw the team off the game. I also can't see how the Canucks will be able to keep Bertuzzi. I feel bad for Bertuzzi on one level, because I'm sure he didn't intend to do what happened, but OTOH he should probably sit out an entire season(next season) to reflect on this.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: murphy55d
Wingznut, the one thing I don't agree with is your thought about Crawford. I saw the entire ordeal, including the aftermath, and it almost looked to me like he was standing there smirking behind the bench. He just had this smug expression on his face, and to me, it was quite disturbing. Lends credence to Brad May's statement about someone going to get it, when these teams played.

Just my opinion.

What's a guy to do? He had no idea how serious the situation was and was standing there taking flak from the Avs coaching staff and players. Who knows what they were saying. To try and spread the blame to Crawford is kinda weak, especially based on a facial expression.
 

rh71

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Why isn't anyone bringing up the Hunter - Turgeon incident where Hunter got 21 games ? He hit Turgeon after scoring a goal... a check into the boards IIRC. That was not nearly as brutal as a stick to the head or full-force punch to the jaw (especially after the repeated attempts of taunting to no avail). I think Bertuzzi needs AT LEAST 15 games (playoffs included) to think about this one.
 

Cawchy87

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I love bertuzzi. When the Cunucks came to Winnipeg for a pre-season game, i waited in line before the drug store opened to be sure to get the best tickets. Game was great, so was Bertuzzi. What he did on monday dumbfounded me. I no longer have an disire to watch him play and hope that he gets suspended to the full extent by the league and punished to the full extent of the law. What he did was absolutly terrible. Fracturing a young up and coming player's neck! If you think the hit on Nasland was dirty or think it was uncalled for then listen to this... (Quote from Don Cherry on "Grapeline" radio show) "You know what, i am not going to say that the hit was dirty or that it wasn't dirty. But i will tell you this, every night i went to bed dreaming of a guy to cut across center ice reaching for the puck with his head down." It clearly was not a blatent attempt to injur, but an oportunity to show what this young player had (phisical wise.) Not many players would pass up the opputunity like that and just skate past him because he was a star player. I just really hope that Bertuzzi doesn't get special treatment because he is considered a star.
 

Aquaman

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McKenzie: Praise to Burke and Lacroix

TSN.ca Staff
3/9/2004

It's going to be interesting to see how things play out for Todd Betuzzi. Obviously, the next big thing is on Wednesday morning, a 9:00 am disciplinary meeting with NHL executive vice-president Colin Campbell.

First and foremost, the concern has to be for the health of Steve Moore above and beyond everything else, and then everything begins to take care of itself. But once you get past the concerns for Moores health and Bertuzzis discipline issue, you have to marvel at the job that was done by both Brian Burke and Pierre Lacroix under very difficult circumstances at a pressure packed time of the year.

Burke called himself a lame duck general manager a few weeks ago and was anything but on the trade deadline. Burke added Geoff Sanderson, Martin Rucinsky and did everything he could to put the best possible team on the ice knowing there's an excellent chance Bertuzzis gone for quit some time.

Meanwhile, Lacroix had to go through an emotional night on Monday while revamping his entire hockey team, acquiring Matthew Barnaby, working on the Tommy Salo deal and making the trade that involved Derrick Morris.

That was grace under pressure by two general managers at the most pressure packed time of the year.

For TSN.ca, I'm Bob McKenzie.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
My thoughts on the Canucks and the Bertuzzi incident...
  • The McSorely incident was no worse. Both players tried to goat the other guy into a fight. And both took it way too far.
  • Bertuzzi grabbed a hold of Moore's jersey before he sucker puched him. That adds quite a bit of leverage to the punch.
  • Coach Granato was screaming at the Canucks bench after the hit, and Crawford stood silently and didn't even make eye contact. Marc Crawford has NEVER backed down like that before. That tells me that he was pretty damn embarrased by Bertuzzi's actions.
  • Bertuzzi has been having a very "off" year... I'll bet this is a culmination of his frustrations which have been growing all year. Based on the four Canucks/Wings games that I've seen, he seemed to be getting more and more disgruntled as the season went along.
  • The Canucks fans threw beer onto the Avs' bench... This reminds me of when they booed Chelios when he was helped off the ice. Very classless.
  • Why get Salo??? Aebischer is AT LEAST as good, if not better. And I'll be the first to say that I didn't feel the same way at the beginning of the season.


  • Well Salo is just a backup to the Avs, in case something happens to Aebischer (he breaks down in the playoffs or get injured)... cuz I'm sure they don't feel comfortable having Sauve in playoff situations... At least Salo has playoff experience...
 

Aquaman

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Bertuzzi hearing on Wednesday

Canadian Press
3/9/2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - Men who usually speak with their actions searched for the proper words Tuesday.

Players and management from both Vancouver and Colorado tried to offer some sort of explanation for Canucks star Todd Bertuzzi's attack on Steve Moore, sending the Colorado rookie to hospital with a neck fracture Monday night.

Some said those who have't played hockey at the highest level don't know what it's like - and what can happen during heat of the action. But most said there was no excuse.

Was it a cheap shot?

``Everyone knows it,'' said Colorado goalie Phil Sauve. ``I'm sure Todd Bertuzzi knows it.

``I'm sure he doesn't feel really good this morning. There's no excuse for what he did and the league is going to punish him for it.''

``We have too much to offer in our game for something like this,'' added Colorado coach Tony Granato. ``Does it cross the line? Of course it does.''

Bertuzzi, who did not speak to the media Tuesday, and Vancouver general manager Brian Burke are due in Toronto on Wednesday morning for a hearing before NHL disciplinarian Colin Campbell. A lengthy suspension is expected to follow.

Police are also investigating.

Const. Sarah Bloor of the Vancouver police said ``a routine assault investigation'' will be conducted to see if criminal charges should be laid.

``We're concerned about Steve (not Bertuzzi),'' Moore's mother, Anna, told the Toronto Sun. ``We're going to leave it (suspension or possible legal action) up to the police and the league.''

Moore's father, Jack, declined to give an opinion on Bertuzzi's actions, saying the family is going to ``reserve comment until we talk to Steve. We're just relieved when we were talking to him that he sounded alert and well. We didn't talk to him about the incident.''

The Moore injury is the latest black eye for the NHL, following a brawl-filled game last Friday between the Ottawa Senators and Philadelphia Flyers, which set an NHL record of 419 penalty minutes.

The league will not be pleased that the Bertuzzi bloodbath tarnished NHL trade deadline day - normally a dream day for hockey junkies.

And there was more bad publicity south of the border, where the game is suffering in some places.

The Denver Post called the incident ``an ugly piece of frontier justice.''

``Even with the animosity between Colorado and Vancouver seemingly building by the second, nobody expected it to come to this,'' said the Rocky Mountain News.

Moore, left lying in a pool of his own blood at GM Place before he was taken off on a stretcher, will miss the rest of the season.

He was hurt after crashing face first on the ice with Bertuzzi on top of him after the Canuck power forward sucker-punched him from behind. Bertuzzi was assessed a match penalty.

There was bad blood between the two teams, arising from a Moore hit last month on Canucks captain Markus Naslund, who missed three games due to a concussion as a result.

But Moore was not penalized during the Feb. 16 game and the league did not penalize him.

A subsequent March 3 game in Denver ended in a 5-5 tie, with little extra-curricular action.

But with Vancouver clearly beaten Monday night, a red mist apparently clouded Bertuzzi's judgement.

On Tuesday, Naslund called Bertuzzi a close friend who had no intention of hurting anyone. Still, Naslund's voice caught with emotion as he tried to describe his reaction to an ugly incident that has been replayed countless times on television.

``I was stunned to see what happened, as far as how the punch hit him, him falling and hitting the ice,'' said Naslund.

``That's not Todd. It's not. He, in my mind, is a very honest player. It's unfortunate how the punch hit Steve Moore.''

Bertuzzi, the Canucks' highest-paid player at around $7 million US a season, didn't practise with the team Tuesday. Burke said the big right-winger wanted to meet the media but was ``too distraught to come here today.''

``It's been too emotionally difficult for him,'' he said.

``Right now he's very upset about what happened. In terms of the incident, he's remorseful and relieved that Mr. Moore's injuries at this point appear, that a full recovery should be possible.''

A release from the Avalanche said Moore will remain in hospital in Vancouver for an indefinite period of time. He sustained a concussion, a cervical injury, deep facial lacerations and abrasions to the forehead, right cheek and upper lip.

As soon as his condition allows it, Moore will be transferred to Craig Hospital in Denver, the statement continued.

The ugly incident rekindled memories of Marty McSorley, then with the Boston Bruins, being charged with assault in Vancouver after knocking out then-Canuck Donald Brashear with a stick to the head in February 2000.

McSorley, suspended by the NHL for a year, was convicted of assault and given an 18-month conditional discharge.

Bertuzzi, 6-3 and 235 pounds, is built like a truck but has the speed of a sports car. He can bring fans out of their seats with a highlight-reel goal or by ramming an opponent into the boards.

Raised in Sudbury, Ont., Bertuzzi can be grumpy with the media but he's a doting father when he brings his young son to the dressing room. He's appeared in a TV commercial for Gatorade - which played up his penchant for big bodychecks - and was suspended for 10 games two years ago for coming off the bench to join an on-ice fight.

He has 17 goals and 43 assists, second best on the Canucks. He also has 122 penalty minutes.

The six-foot-two, 205-pound Moore, a native of Windsor, Ont., has a degree in environmental sciences and public policy from Harvard.

On a team stacked with stars, Moore is a checking forward who has four goals and seven assists in 57 games this season, 13th in scoring on the Avs. He has 37 penalty minutes.

In the NHL, usually the fringe player mugs the star. The roles were reversed Monday night.

Colorado general manager Pierre Lacroix was asked if Bertuzzi's action was a payback.

``We all understand it was wrong,'' said Lacroix. ``The league knows about it and the appropriate action will be taken.''

The two teams don't meet again during the regular season.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: LeStEr
Bertuzzi knocked him out with the innitial punch no? Thats what I thought it looked like.

It almost looks that way, Moore certainly was going down with or without Bertuzzi on his back.

I think that the majority of the damage was when Moore hit the ice IMO. Obviously, a punch from a very strong man coming from the back without any opportunity to brace against the blow would cause mucho damage and probable loss of consciousness ... but seeing that replay it looked much worse when he hit the ice.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: bill_n_opus
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: LeStEr
Bertuzzi knocked him out with the innitial punch no? Thats what I thought it looked like.

It almost looks that way, Moore certainly was going down with or without Bertuzzi on his back.

I think that the majority of the damage was when Moore hit the ice IMO. Obviously, a punch from a very strong man coming from the back without any opportunity to brace against the blow would cause mucho damage and probable loss of consciousness ... but seeing that replay it looked much worse when he hit the ice.
Of course the impact of the ice caused the injury. What the initial punch did was knock him unconscious - so he was unable to brace for the head-first fall... just watch his arms. No defensive movement as he was falling.
 

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: bill_n_opus
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: LeStEr
Bertuzzi knocked him out with the innitial punch no? Thats what I thought it looked like.

It almost looks that way, Moore certainly was going down with or without Bertuzzi on his back.

I think that the majority of the damage was when Moore hit the ice IMO. Obviously, a punch from a very strong man coming from the back without any opportunity to brace against the blow would cause mucho damage and probable loss of consciousness ... but seeing that replay it looked much worse when he hit the ice.
Of course the impact of the ice caused the injury. What the initial punch did was knock him unconscious - so he was unable to brace for the head-first fall... just watch his arms. No defensive movement as he was falling.
Dont forget about the 250 lb sack of crap helping him down to the ice.

In all fairness, I have no doubt that Bertuzzi wishes he could take it all back.

But I think the league needs to crack down on this... Any punch from behind needs to be dealt with, imho.

 

Aquaman

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Bertuzzi hearing underway

Canadian Press
3/10/204

TORONTO (CP w/TSN.ca staff) - The NHL disciplinary hearing into Todd Bertuzzi's attack on Steve Moore is now underway following a delay Wednesday morning after some of the parties involved asked for more time to prepare.

"(The hearing) will take place later in the day." NHL vice-president Gary Meagher told reporters 30-minutes after the hearing was supposed to begin at 9 am at the NHL's offices in Toronto.

The meeting is being held before NHL vice-president Colin Campbell, the league's disciplinarian. NHLPA officials will also attend.

Due to the threat of legal action in the case, some observers believe Bertuzzi and his lawyers may opt not to appear at the hearing because anything he says could be used against him if criminal charges are laid.

Marty McSorley opted not to appear for his NHL hearing in 2000 due to the threat of legal action against him.

Bertuzzi is in Toronto and it's believed Vancouver GM Brian Burke accompanied him from Vancouver.

Whether or not Bertuzzi appears for the hearing, that will not prevent the NHL from rendering a decision, like it did in the McSorley case. He was suspended for one year for hitting Vancouver's Donald Brashear in the head with his stick. That stands as the longest suspension to date for an on-ice infraction in the NHL.

"I have no time frame on when a decision might be made," Meagher added.

Moore was hospitalized with a fractured neck and a concussion after he was sucker-punched by Bertuzzi in the third period of a 9-2 Colorado win Monday night at Vancouver's GM Place.

The Avs forward landed face first on the ice, with Bertuzzi on top of him.

There has been bad blood between the two teams since a hit by Moore in a game Feb. 16 sidelined Canucks captain Markus Naslund for three games with a concussion. Moore was not penalized on the play.

Outside the Air Canada Centre on Wednesday, two fans waited along with reporters, who interviewed both in the absence of any other news.

One wore a Canucks shirt and hockey gloves with a sign taped to a hockey stick that said "Colin, Ernie says free Bert."

The sign had pictures of Muppets Ernie and Bert as well as a Bertuzzi photo, newspaper clipping and hockey card

The other held up a sign asking for a four-year ban of Bertuzzi and a fine of $3.2 million.

The average suspension handed down by the NHL for incidents similar to Bertuzzi's has been 11 games.

Matt Johnson of the Los Angeles Kings was handed a 12 game suspension for deliberately injuring Jeff Beukeboom of the New York Rangers in 1998. Beukeboom's subsequent head injury eventually forced him out of the game.

Philadelphia goalie Ron Hextall also received a 12 game suspension for attacking Montreal's Chris Chelios during a playoff game in 1989 while Owen Nolan, then of the San Jose Sharks, got 11 games for hitting Grant Marshall in the head in 2001.

Winnipeg's Jimmy Mann got 10 games for sucker-punching Pittsburgh's Paul Gardner in 1982 while Ruslan Salei of Anaheim was hit with a 10 game suspension for hitting Mike Modano of the Dallas Stars from behind in 1999.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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New look Canucks host Wild on TSN

Canadian Press
3/10/2004

Fearful of Todd Bertuzzi receiving a long suspension for his actions against Colorado on Monday, Vancouver Canucks president and general manager Brian Burke shifted his focus to Tuesday's trade deadline.

As a result, new acquisitions Martin Rucinsky, Geoff Sanderson and Marc Bergevin should be available to play when the Canucks take on the visiting Minnesota Wild.

``You will see from the activity that we made some changes that will help, but I also feel that we preserved our core young assets which I said I would preserve,'' Burke said on Tuesday.

The Canucks, who have won just one of their last four (1-2-1) games, limped toward the deadline following an awful 9-2 home loss to the rival Avalanche on Monday. With the game out of hand late, Bertuzzi sucker-punched Colorado's Steve Moore from behind and slammed him headfirst into the ice.

Moore was knocked unconscious and was lying in a pool of blood before being taken off the ice on a stretcher. It was later learned Moore suffered a broken neck and a concussion and will miss the rest of the season.

Burke took a proactive approach to the suspension by replacing the offense Bertuzzi likely would have supplied by trading prospect defenseman Martin Grenier and the rights to unsigned draft pick R.J. Umberger to New York for winger Rucinsky, one of the few bright spots for the disappointing Rangers with 13 goals and 29 assists in 69 games.

``That's what it's all about, You play 82 games to get into the playoffs,'' said Rucinsky, who will be playing for his seventh team during his 13-year career. ``I'm glad to go to Vancouver. They are a great team. I'm just happy to go there, have a good playoffs and hopefully make a good run.''

Burke then plucked Sanderson from lowly Columbus for a third-round pick in 2005, and nabbed veteran defenseman Bergevin from Pittsburgh for a seventh-round selection in 2004.

Sanderson, a 32-year-old forward, had 13 goals and 16 assists in 67 games with Columbus this season, and 313 goals and 605 points during his 13-year career.

A veteran of 21 NHL seasons, Bergevin is joining his eighth team. Overall, he has played in 1,182 games, recording 36 goals, 143 assists and 1088 penalty minutes. Bergevin has also played in 77 playoff games, recording nine points and 50 penalty minutes.

The Wild snapped a seven-game winless streak (0-4-3) with a 4-3 win over Pacific Division-leading San Jose on Tuesday.

Manny Fernandez made 28 saves for Minnesota, which will likely miss the postseason after advancing to the Western Conference finals last season.

The Wild are 10 points out of the final playoff spot with 13 games to play.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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What They're Saying

Canadian Press
3/10/2004

A selection of opinions from various sports outlets on the events surrounding Todd Bertuzzi's hit on Colorado's Steve Moore Monday night.

One of these days, the National Hockey League will finally get it. That will be the day one of its goons kills another player on the ice. Don't think it can't happen. It almost did Monday night in Vancouver. - Tim Dahlberg, The Associated Press

The NHL clearly is guilty of full idiocy. Somebody should knock sense into the heads of the league and the teams and the players association. An exchange of punches between two players is silly, macho one-upmanship. Blindsiding and cold-cocking an opponent, then slamming his head into concrete-like ice is a premeditated violent attack with intent to maim. No wonder the NHL is continuing to slip from a bad fourth in major-league sports popularity and racing toward disappearance next season. It's a league without a clue. - Woody Paige, Denver Post

There is no room in hockey for what took place at GM Place Monday night. No room at all. Now, it's up to the NHL to determine what will happen to someone who could do such a thing. - Gary Mason, Vancouver Sun

The NHL has, of course, suspended Bertuzzi and it will be widely debated as to the length and severity - but the debaters, unfortunately, will miss the essential point. It's not the player that required severe corrective measures - it's the game. - Roy MacGregor, The Globe and Mail

There was premeditation. There was intent to injure. There was extreme violence. For this, Bertuzzi should forfeit his right to participate in the NHL. He should be banned for the rest of this season, including the playoffs, and if someone wants to make an argument for a permanent ban, I'd sure be willing to listen. - Damien Cox, Toronto Star

Bertuzzi has made his bed and he must lie in it. But the NHL must share at least some of the blame. Alone among professional sports leagues, the NHL not only allows but, by its inaction, fosters a vigorous system of vigilante justice that may have worked in another generation but is totally out of date in 2004. One guy is in the hospital nursing a serious injury. The other is now in the fight of his life for his livelihood and his good name. His team is left in the lurch. And you know what? Hockey should count its lucky stars it wasn't worse. - Ken Fidlin, Toronto Sun

Most mystifying of all about Bertuzzi's actions, however, is why a skilled player, albeit a very large one, felt he had to personally dispense frontier justice, at what may turn out to be enormous cost - not merely playoff wins but millions of dollars in revenues - to this team. Heavy work is best left to heavies. Not only are they better at it, they are less costly to lose. - Cam Cole, National Post

In the long term, whatever those forces of authority do, it won't change a thing. A business that still thinks it needs fighting as a marketing tool, that allows threats to be carried out and that all but encourages vendettas isn't about to clean itself up. There are bigger fish to fry right now - like winning a salary cap from the players, at all costs. In the short term, Bertuzzi ought to be suspended for the rest of this season and the playoffs. And he ought to be charged. - Stephen Brunt, The Globe and Mail

Bertuzzi is no dainty tulip, nor is Moore, never mind his Harvard pedigree. They both have volunteered to make a living from an ability and an eagerness to dish out punishment. The NHL should ban Bertuzzi for life, or for the length of Moore's life, anyhow, though, most likely, it will be just for the season. It will be a gesture as hollow as it is transparent. - Bernie Lincicome, Rocky Mountain News

Hockey is a violent sport. That's one of the reasons we love it. But within the organized chaos of high sticks and slashes and hockey fights, there are rules, there are boundaries, there are lines that shouldn't be crossed. Todd Bertuzzi crossed one of those lines Monday night, and he should not play another game this season because of it. - Mike Heika, Dallas Morning News,

The NHL should suspend Todd Bertuzzi for the rest of the regular season - at least. If it hurts Vancouver's Stanley Cup chances, so be it. Bertuzzi deserves to be punished severely. The league must make a statement. - Nicholas J. Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press

Bertuzzi's attack was not a spur-of-the-moment, heat-of-combat lapse in judgment. Rather, he stalked Moore like a thug working a dark alley. Though he outweighs Moore by about 60 pounds, he slipped up behind Moore and punched him with his gloved hand. What a coward! And as the dazed Moore fell helplessly toward the ice, Bertuzzi jumped on him and smashed his face into he ice. He could have killed the guy. - Jeff Gordon, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Bertuzzi's cheap-shot sucker punch from behind on Colorado's Steve Moore on Monday night in Vancouver, and then his driving of Moore's head into the ice, was despicable and indefensible. Bertuzzi should be suspended for a year. A full year. It's sickening, and that was the case even before the news broke Tuesday morning that Moore had suffered fractured vertebrae. He has the use of his limbs, and there will be no paralysis, but that doesn't lessen the shock - or the disgrace. - Terry Frei, ESPN.com

It would be apt to say that Todd Bertuzzi's vicious attack on Steve Moore gave hockey a black eye, if the face of the sport didn't already sport a shiner, a misshapen nose and a perpetual bully-boy sneer. Despicable and cowardly as Bertuzzi's sucker punch was, it's really just one extreme incident in a continuum of needless violence that is as much a part of the game as the speed and skill such episodes too often obscure. - John MacKinnon, Edmonton Journal

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Teammates visit Moore in Hospital

Canadian Press
3/10/2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - Steve Moore's Colorado Avalanche teammates applauded when they saw him sitting up in bed and able to smile.

The Avalanche visited Moore briefly in Vancouver General Hospital before flying to Edmonton for a game against the Oilers on Wednesday night.

Denver newspapers reported Wednesday that Moore wore a neck brace when he was wheeled on a bed into the hospital's rehabilitation gym Tuesday to meet his teammates.

The Avs hadn't seen him since the previous night when Vancouver Canucks forward Todd Bertuzzi sucker-punched Moore in the side of the head and landed on top of him as the Colorado rookie fell face-first to the ice.

Moore was able to smile and gingerly shake hands with his teammates.

``It was good to see him,'' Avalanche captain Joe Sakic told the Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News. ``After that hit, it didn't look good. To see him today, he had good spirits.''

Moore did not discuss Bertuzzi's hit, but was able to joke about the situation.

``Looks worse than it is, though, right?'' Moore told his teammates. ``I've just got to wear this stylish brace for a while.''

According to the Denver papers, Colorado coach Tony Granato said: ``On behalf of the boys, we just wanted to stop and let you know how much we think of you. We'll win some games while you're laid up for a while.''

One by one, the Av players approached Moore and grasped his hand, the Post reported.

Moore suffered two chip fractures in the C-3 and C-4 vertebrae in his neck along with cuts and a concussion, according to Avs trainer Pat Karns. The C-3 and C-4 vertebrae are in the base of the neck.

Moore's next stop, when cleared to leave by doctors, is Denver's Craig Hospital, a rehabilitation centre for spinal injuries.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Thursday is D-Day for Bertuzzi

Canadian Press
3/10/2004

TORONTO (CP w/TSN.ca staff) - Todd Bertuzzi will have to wait until Thursday morning to find out how long he will be suspended for his attack on Colorado's Steve Moore earlier this week.

NHL vice-president of public relations Gary Meagher says the official decision will be announced at 9 am ET/6 am PT.

A lengthy suspension is expected.

Wednesday's hearing was delayed until 1 pm ET after some of the parties asked for more time to prepare. When it did commence, Bertuzzi was present along with Canucks GM Brian Burke and NHLPA officials. NHL vice-president Colin Campbell, the league's disciplinarian, conducted the hearing, which lasted just over an hour.

Both Bertuzzi and Burke left the hearing without speaking to the large throng of reporters gathered outside the building.

There was speculation earlier in the day that Bertuzzi might not appear for the hearing due to the possibility of legal action.

Vancouver police spokesperson Sarah Bloor says it will take approximately three-to-four weeks for police to wrap up their investigation.

It's the second time in four years that Vancouver police have been called to investigate an on-ice incident. Former Boston Bruins player Marty McSorley was charged with assault after swinging his stick and striking Vancouver's Donald Brashear in the head in 2000.

McSorley opted not to appear for his NHL hearing as a result of the police investigation. The NHL suspended him for one year, the longest suspension to date for an on-ice infraction.

McSorley was later convicted of assault and given an 18-month conditional discharge. While he is eligible to apply for reinstatement to the NHL, he has never played professional hockey again. McSorley did play 14 games with Grand Rapids of the IHL in 2000-2001. He has been the head coach of the Springfield Falcons of the American Hockey League for the last two seasons.

Moore is in a Vancouver hospital with a fractured neck and a concussion following Monday night's incident at Vancouver's GM Place. He was able to smile and shake hands gingerly with some of his Colorado teammates, who paid him a visit before flying to Edmonton for their next game.

While he did not discuss the Bertuzzi hit, he did manage to joke about the situation, saying it looks worse than it is and that he would have to wear his "stylish (neck) brace" for a while.

There has been bad blood between Vancouver and Colorado since a hit by Moore in a game Feb. 16 sidelined Canucks captain Markus Naslund for three games with a concussion. Moore was not penalized on the play.

Prior to this morning's hearing, two fans waited along with reporters outside the NHL offices at the Air Canada Centre. One wore a Canucks shirt and hockey gloves with a sign taped to a hockey stick that said "Colin, Ernie says free Bert." The sign had pictures of Muppets Ernie and Bert as well as a Bertuzzi photo, newspaper clipping and hockey card

The other held up a sign asking for a four-year ban of Bertuzzi and a fine of $3.2 million.

The average suspension handed down by the NHL for incidents similar to Bertuzzi's has been 11 games.

Matt Johnson of the Los Angeles Kings was handed a 12 game suspension for deliberately injuring Jeff Beukeboom of the New York Rangers in 1998. Beukeboom's subsequent head injury eventually forced him out of the game.

Philadelphia goalie Ron Hextall also received a 12 game suspension for attacking Montreal's Chris Chelios during a playoff game in 1989 while Owen Nolan, then of the San Jose Sharks, got 11 games for hitting Grant Marshall in the head in 2001.

Winnipeg's Jimmy Mann got 10 games for sucker-punching Pittsburgh's Paul Gardner in 1982 while Ruslan Salei of Anaheim was hit with a 10 game suspension for hitting Mike Modano of the Dallas Stars from behind in 1999.

This season, the longest suspension levied by the NHL for an on-ice incident was a 5 game penalty handed to Minnesota's Matt Johnson on February 20 for slashing Vancouver's Matt Cooke. Cooke was also suspended two games for a retaliatory spear on Johnson.

Kip Brennan of Los Angeles was suspended 10 games by the NHl on December 27, but that was for returning to the ice to engage in a fight after being sent to the dressing room.

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Aquaman
 

Sealy

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Well Canucks....I hope you have a great game tonight, and don't let the actions of one man bring the whole team down.

IMO the whole incident has no baring on what kind of team the Canucks are. Bert is just one man who made a bad desicion. It was'nt the whole team that did it. I just hope that mentally they can put it all behind them and get back to what it's all about, HOCKEY!!

**and a little side note to baconboy: this is the "Official Canucks W00t Thread". If you want to whine about how hockey sucks, when you know little to nothing about the game, go start your own "official hockey sucks and I just want to whine about it thread" **

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Bertuzzi an enigmatic star

Canadian Press
3/10/2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - Sometimes during Vancouver Canucks practices, Todd Bertuzzi likes to fire pucks off the Plexiglas in front of reporters.

He'll whack a teammate with his stick or bounce a puck off their leg, then give a big gap-toothed grin.

Bertuzzi, 29, plays hockey like a big kid. His ability to score goals, combined with body-bruising hits, have made him an NHL star.

At six foot three and 245 pounds he's been described as the perfect hockey player, from the neck down.

There are times though when the child takes over the man. Bertuzzi often takes stupid penalties. There have been 20 times this season when he's been called for a penalty that negated a Canuck power play.

He can be surly and sometimes is a bully.

It's this mixture of hockey talent combined with unpredictable emotions that resulted in Bertuzzi's attack on Steve Moore in a game Monday night that left the Colorado Avalanche rookie in hospital with a neck fracture.

He faces an NHL suspension and a police investigation.

Bertuzzi isn't an easy man to get to know or understand.

He's often curt, even sarcastic, with the media. His self-confidence borders on arrogance.

He's the Canucks highest-paid player at $7 million US a season and often looks as if he'd rather battle Detroit defenceman Chris Chelios in front of the net than answer a few questions after a game.

Still, he remains a fan favourite, ranking with captain Markus Naslund and veteran Trevor Linden as the most popular Canucks.

He was featured throwing his weight around in a TV commercial for Gatorade and had a small role in the locally filmed TV program Cold Squad.

Friends say Bertuzzi is a loving husband who dotes on his two children.

``He's an emotional guy that cares a hell of a lot about this team,'' Canuck teammate Matt Cooke said Wednesday. ``He doesn't care if you know who Todd Bertuzzi is.

``This is his workplace. The people he talks to, media, whatever, in the end mean nothing to him.''

Defenceman Sami Salo said Bertuzzi drops his tough guy act with his teammates.

``He's a very funny guy,'' said Salo. ``He steps up to help with anything you might have.

``When I moved to Vancouver, he helped me. He's a great guy around the team and as a friend.''

During training camp this year, Bertuzzi quickly claimed the larger of the two beds at the team hotel. When he found out his roommate would be veteran Mike Keane, Bertuzzi quickly collected his belongings and moved to the smaller bed in the upper loft in the room.

Bertuzzi grew up in Sudbury, Ont., and Albert Bertuzzi, his father, was always proud of his toughness.

``It's a Bertuzzi trait,'' he told ESPN magazine for a 2002 feature on his son. ``We're just very aggressive.''

By the age of 15, Todd was six foot two and 150 pounds. He played junior hockey in Guelph, Ont., and he often lost his temper.

``Every time he went out (onto the ice), it was an experience,'' said his father.

He was the New York Islanders' first choice, 23rd overall, in the 1993 draft. He struggled with the Islanders, who wanted him to be another Clark Gillies. He was traded to Vancouver on Feb. 6, 1998, in deal that sent Linden to Long Island.

Over the last two seasons, Bertuzzi has established himself as one of the game's best power forwards. Last season he had career highs with 97 points, 46 goals and 51 assists. He also had 144 penalty minutes.

This year he has only 17 goals but has 43 assists and 122 penalty minutes.

People who watch the Canucks say sometimes Bertuzzi doesn't seem to know, or care, what the score of a game is or how much time remains on the clock.

Instead of using his size to drive the net, Bertuzzi has become more of a perimeter player.

Like a headstrong stallion, he also seems to chafe under reins. Last year in Calgary, Bertuzzi picked up three minor penalties on one play _ two for roughing and an unsportsmanlike for yelling at a referee.

Coach Marc Crawford benched him for 10 minutes, a move that left Bertuzzi seething. The relationship between coach and player remains strained.

Bertuzzi was suspended 10 games two years ago for coming off the bench to join a fight in a game against Colorado. He broke the nose of defenceman Karlis Skrastins, a non-fighter, in a fight last year.

He also is accused of firing a slap shot at former Detroit coach Scotty Bowman as he stood behind the Red Wing bench.

With hockey being such an important part of his life, some people wonder how Bertuzzi will deal emotionally with a long suspension.

``There's no doubt it's going to be a very difficult time for Todd,'' said Crawford. ``We're all going to support him the best we can.''

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Aquaman
 

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Making headlines for the wrong reason

Canadian Press
3/10/2004

Thanks to Todd Bertuzzi, the NHL is making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

"No wonder the NHL is continuing to slip from a bad fourth in major-league sports popularity and racing toward disappearance next season," wrote Denver Post columnist Woody Paige. "It's a league without a clue."

Added Associated Press columnist Tim Dahlberg: "One of these days, the National Hockey League will finally get it. That will be the day one of its goons kills another player on the ice. Don't think it can't happen. It almost did Monday night in Vancouver.

Bertuzzi's attack on Colorado's Steve Moore is the latest black eye for hockey. And this stain comes courtesy of one of the league's stars, a bruising power forward from the Vancouver Canucks.

It's a public relations nightmare, the last thing needed by a league already facing financial and labour problems.

"My wife said to me this morning that she thought it was absolutely disgusting, and I think that is the reaction of everyone," Hall of Famer Bernie Federko said Wednesday from St. Louis.

In Denver, Avalanche fans voiced their outrage.

"I think the sheer violence of the incident is appalling to people, they've never seen anything like that here," said Sandy Clough of KKFN radio, who has hosted a sports talk show for 25 years in Denver.

Clough notes that Avs fans are no strangers to bitter rivalries, given the hard-nosed history between Colorado and Detroit.

"But to see something like this the other night ... what we saw from Detroit and the Avalanche was child's play compared to this. "

The bad press wasn't limited to the U.S.

English TV networks ITV and Sky News both did stories on the Bertuzzi incident Wednesday. Sky showed video of the incident throughout the day while ITV did a fuller story on its 6:30 p.m. national newscast, asking whether "ice hockey" is getting too violent.

Others take a more moderate view.

Hall of Fame defenceman Denis Potvin, now a colour analyst for Florida Panthers games, doesn't think the Bertuzzi incident will turn American fans off the game for good.

"I don't think so," Potvin said from Montreal, where the Panthers play Thursday. "Everybody watched Ottawa and Philadelphia (brawl) last week. And the one thing about the Bertuzzi incident is that he didn't use his hockey stick."

Federko also showed leniency towards Bertuzzi.

"I feel somewhat for Todd Bertuzzi because while he was trying to punch to the guy he didn't mean for something like this to happen," Federko said.

"And Todd Bertuzzi is not that type of player, yes he made a mistake, but he's an all-star. He'll be the first to admit he did something wrong. But it wasn't an enforcer, one of those guys that really can't play, that did this. And thank goodness for that."

It doesn't matter, Clough says.

Avs fans calling in to his show may turn their backs on the game because of this.

"This was an assault from behind and we've had callers who are having a hard time explaining it to their kids," Clough said.

"I think season-ticket holders looking at the entire hockey situation with some concern anyway (because of the NHL's labour uncertainty) and they wonder how willing they're going to be to spend top dollar for tickets or how much time they should invest their time in a sport that in this case went totally out of control the other night."

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Aquaman
 

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McKenzie: Bertuzzi incident very unique

TSN.ca Staff
3/10/2004

There has never been anything in the NHL quite like Todd Bertuzzi's attack on Steve Moore, and that's what makes it such a difficult incident for the league to deal with.

There are people who would like to compare it to Marty McSorley's stick assault on Donald Brashear, minus the stick. There are others who would say it's more like Matt Johnson's blind-side sucker punch of Jeff Beukeboom.

The truth is it's like nothing we've ever seen because of the context. Those incidents, heinous as they were, were ultimately considered things done in the heat of battle, something that happened within the context of a 60-minute hockey game.

You can try to rationalize Bertuzzi's actions as sticking up for a teammate but at the end of the day, here's what you're left with. The Vancouver Canucks, explicity in the case of Brad May and implicity in the case of Bertuzzi, threatened to get Steve Moore for his hit on Markus Naslund. And get them, they did.

There is a very strong line here between words and action and that could have Bertuzzi, the Canucks and the NHL in a world of hurt in terms of the legal ramifications, both civil and criminal. And that's why the NHL is likely to come down hard on Bertuzzi Thursday morning.

Bertuzzi is certain to be suspended for the balance of the regular season. The only issue is how much of the playoffs he will miss.

It's not out of the question that Bertuzzi will be suspended for the balance of playoffs, no matter how far the Canucks advance. But it's also possible the sentence could be set at one round or two. If Vancouver loses in the first round without Bertuzzi, it all could be a moot point.

Another concept that could be explored would be two-stage justice. Give Bertuzzi a minimum suspension now, say the balance of the regular season and one round of the playoffs, and then re-visit the discipline when more facts are in, when Moore's injuries have been better defined and assessed and when the length of the Canucks' season is a little clearer.

The league could then decide to extend it or terminate it, but suffice to say many in and out of the game will be watching carefully to see where the NHL goes with this most difficult situation.

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Aquaman
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Does anyone have a link to a video of the incident? I haven't seen it yet and I can't find one through Google.

Wow, that was brutal; Bertuzzi deserves what he gets for this one.
 
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