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Aquaman

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More bad news for the canucks............. Markus Nasluund has been choosen for the 13th cover of EA sports NHL 2005

The Curse of the Box cover is on him now

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Legal experts: Bertuzzi case complex

Canadian Press
6/24/2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - Everything was played out on videotape for potentially millions of viewers to see and judge: Todd Bertuzzi sucker-punching an opposing player and crashing down on top of him, leaving the opponent motionless on blood-stained ice.

Bertuzzi was charged with assault causing bodily harm Thursday, but suggestions the case is as clear-cut as those images is an over-simplification for what's sure to be a complex proceeding, say legal observers.

``It's not as simple as saying the person was hit, that's the end of it,'' said Michael Mulligan, a prominent defence lawyer in Victoria who has done Crown work.

It's been almost four months since Bertuzzi piled on top of the Colorado Avalanche's Steve Moore, leaving him with a broken neck, a concussion and other injuries.

There were 18,000 people at the March 8 game and millions more people throughout North America and Europe have seen the clip of the hit.

But the investigation extended well beyond GM Place.

Among the things that took time was the fact that some of the people police needed to talk to were Colorado Avalanche players who were not available in Vancouver.

``To suggest this has taken an inordinate amount of time to come to a conclusion I think overlooks the fact everyone, the public, wants the Crown to make a principled decision based upon the available evidence and not a decision that is made hastily,'' Crown spokesman Geoff Gaul said.

But, as in all cases where charges are laid, Mulligan said Crown prosecutors must decide two things before laying charges: is there a substantial likelihood of conviction and if so, is it in the public interest to do so.

It takes time for police to conduct interviews and to analyse the video tape of the hit. The Crown may have been waiting to see how Moore has recovered.

And also, Bertuzzi's lawyers may have made been allowed to make submissions to the Crown about why it might not be appropriate for charges to be laid.

Laying charges ``is a very significant decision. It's a person who has no criminal record. It's a major matter just to be charged. So it's appropriate that a special prosecutor fulfil their statutory obligation,'' Mulligan said.

Doctors said at the time of Moore's injury that it was not known when, or if, the native of Windsor, Ont., would play hockey again.

Bertuzzi's first court appearance is July 9, though only his lawyer need attend. Although Bertuzzi may enter a plea then, it's more likely his lawyer will ask for more time to go through the evidence that the Crown is required to disclose.

Assault causing bodily harm carries a maximum of 10 years in jail, but Mulligan said that's extremely remote for Bertuzzi. The maximum would be reserved for the worst offender with a long criminal record and no mitigating circumstances to his crime.

In fact, Mulligan said any jail time at all for Bertuzzi is unlikely.

``That's not really a sensible starting point for what's likely to happen.''

Instead, he said Bertuzzi will likely face anything from an absolute discharge, which carries no criminal record, to a conditional discharge, which only carries a record if the terms of the sentence are not met.

Probation, a fine or a conditional jail sentenced served in the community are other possibilities, Mulligan said.

Marty McSorley, the former NHL tough guy charged and convicted of assaulting then-Canuck Donald Brashear with a stick to the head, was given an 18-month conditional discharge.

That incident was also caught on videotape and replayed widely.

McSorley, who was at the end of his NHL career, never played in the league again.

His case will no doubt come to count in Bertuzzi's case.

As in the McSorley trial, any jury in a Bertuzzi trial will hear arguments about what level of violence hockey players consent to, said Mulligan.

``People consent to being body checked. It would also seem there's a consent to engage in fist fights.''

And that videotape doesn't necessarily doom Bertuzzi, he said.

``There's a lot to be considered there. It's not enough to say we've got this thing on videotape, that's the end of it...There would still be other issues.''

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McKenzie: Civil suit on the horizon?

TSN.ca Staff
6/24/2004

I don't want to minimize what Vancouver Canucks forward Todd Bertuzzi and Colorado Avalanche forward Steve Moore are going through now that criminal charges have been laid against Bertuzzi.

But having said that, there was this sense of thinking "the sky is falling," when looking back at Marty McSorley's charges for his slash to the head of Canucks forward Donald Brashear four years ago. There was a lot of talk about how much violence there was in hockey and how this incident was going to alter the game.

The ruling on McSorley ended up having as much impact on the game as all those other times NHL players have gone to court for on-ice transgressions.

I suspect the same thing will happen with Todd Bertuzzi's situation in the sense that where the bigger picture is concerned, I don't think this situation is as bad as it seems for the National Hockey League.

On top of that, the laying of criminal charges against Bertuzzi also bolsters the chance of a civil case for Moore. There's no question in a lot of people's minds that preparation is under way for a civil suit against Bertuzzi, the Canucks and the National Hockey League. That is what the NHL should be absolutely terrified about, as such a suit might have the most impact and force them to do business in a different way.

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With all the rumours and news about the possibility of Washington trading its first overall selection on Satruday, it's safe to say that GM George McPhee is going to keep it.

A lot of NHL general managers who have been talking to McPhee over the last few days are coming away with the general sense that he's not prepared to deal it (unless there's some astronomical offer, which isn't coming down the pike), and the Capitals will select Alexander Ovechkin.

On the other hand, the Pittsburgh Penguins have the second overall selection in Saturday's draft and people are wondering if GM Craig Patrick is willing to trade it - for financial reasons.

Russian forward Evgeny Malkin is the obvious choice to go second overall, and bear in mind that there is no agreement in place between the NHL and the International Ice Hockey Federation. The speculation is that it could cost millions of dollars in transfer fees to get both Ovechkin and Malkin out of Russia and into the NHL.

That being said, a lot of people suspect that the Penguins won't be able to afford that and could be prepared to trade the pick. Teams like the Columbus Blue Jackets and Atlanta Thrashers are pitching trade proposals -once directed at McPhee - to Patrick and the Penguins.

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Bettman defends NHL's action on Bertuzzi

Canadian Press
6/25/2004

RALEIGH, N.C. (CP) - NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, responding to a plea from Prime Minister Paul Martin for less on-ice violence, said Friday the league took an "appropriate response" to the Todd Bertuzzi incident.

Martin commented Thursday in Vancouver about increasing acts of violence in hockey and called on the NHL to police itself better.

"I hope he wasn't grandstanding," Bettman said, adding he hadn't hear Martin's remarks. "From our standpoint, as a league, we had an appropriate response and we're disappointed the crown chose to move forward, but we will co-operate in any way we can."

The B.C. attorney general announced Thursday it brought charges of assault causing bodily harm against Bertuzzi, the Vancouver Canucks forward who punched Colorado's Steve Moore to the ice in March, causing a concussion and a serious neck injury.

Bertuzzi was suspended for the remainder of the NHL regular season and the playoffs and will not be allowed to play again until he is reinstated by the league.

Bettman said no petition for reinstatement has yet been filed.

"It's not something we're focused on," said Bettman. "I don't think the reinstatement issue is front-burner.

"The focus for Mr. Bertuzzi is now going to be on defending himself. Obviously, at some point, I'm going to hear a case for reinstatement. No case has been requested at this time."

A reporter said former Canucks' general manager Brian Burke had said he asked for a hearing for Bertuzzi, but Bettman said "I don't think that's accurate because Brian Burke wouldn't be the one to petition for reinstatement. Todd Bertuzzi would."

In a 75-minute meeting at the NHL draft, Bettman reiterated his stand that any future collective bargaining agreement with the players must tie salary to revenues, a position rejected repeatedly by the union.

The league is expected to lock out the players if a new CBA cannot be negotiated before the current deal expires on Sept. 15.

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sandorski

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Hascek(sp) might be going to the Sens? Just heard it on BCTV Sports news. Seems tied to whether the Wings renew a contract with Hascek.

I dunno if it's a good idea, Hascek is a walking injury these days, but if he could stay healthy it could be what the Sens need. Maybe.
 

Aquaman

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Who will the Canucks pick in this years draft? Will they trade the 26th pick for 2 2nd rounders?

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Canucks draft goaltender in first round

Sports Ticker
6/26/2004

RALEIGH, North Carolina (Ticker) - Selecting 26th overall, the Vancouver Canucks made high schooler Cory Schneider the first goaltender they've ever taken in the first round of the NHL draft.

Schneider was ranked just seventh among North American goaltending prospects by NHL Central Scouting after going 17-5-2 with a 1.57 goals-against average and .960 save percentage at Phillips Andover Academy in Massachusetts.

Scouts were impressed after the Marblehead native went 5-0-1 with a 1.71 GAA and .929 save percentage in six games at the World Under-18 Championships.

At 6-2, he needs to grow into his frame, and he'll get the chance next season at Boston College.

An injury to Dan Cloutier during the Western Conference quarterfinals left the Canucks' goaltending situation muddled, with Alex Auld ended up playing ahead of backup Johan Hedberg.

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oldfoof

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Freak I cant belive that bertuzzi is Charged... there goes his NHL days ...

Looks like the canucks are going to have to rebuild for another 10 years hope not that long
 

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I think I should get special Icon or somthing for havn the biggest thread lol


5741 and counting .. .
 

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Originally posted by: oldfoof
I think I should get special Icon or somthing for havn the biggest thread lol


5741 and counting .. .

But this is not the biggest thread............. that would be the movie game thread......... it has 6500+ posts in it.

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Canucks draft goaltender in first round

Canadian Press
6/26/2004

RALEIGH, N.C. (CP) - Top draft pick Cory Schneider brings a string of achievements to the Vancouver Canucks.

The six-foot-two goaltender, selected 26th overall by Vancouver at the NHL draft on Saturday, won the John Carleton trophy awarded by the Boston Bruins to the top student-player in Massachusetts this year.

He won a gold medal with the U.S. team at the under-18 world championships in 2003. And - rare for a goalie - he was captain of his team at the posh Phillips-Andover Academy.

``I'm a big kid so I like to use my size,'' said the well-spoken, red-headed goaltender. ``I go after the puck and let it hit me.

``I watch guys like Andrew Raycroft (of Boston) and Roberto Luongo (of Florida) who are bigger guys.''

He was drafted by Rimouski of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, but plans to attend Boston College in the fall.

``There was a bit of interest from Rimouski, but I'm looking at Boston College,'' he said. ``Maybe if Vancouver thinks it's in my best interests to do that (go to Rimouski), I'll have to consider it, but right now, I'm planning on going to B.C.''

The Canucks, who need goaltending with Dan Cloutier a restricted free agent and Alex Auld as back-up, may try to move Schneider quickly through their system, although not likely for next season.

``We're pretty thin in net,''' said general manager Dave Nonis. ``This does plug a hole. We don't have the depth at that position that other NHL teams have.''

In 24 high school games this season, Schneider posted a 1.42 goals-against average and a sterling .956 save percentage with six shutouts.

Vancouver didn't have a pick in the second round, but took Swedish defenceman Alexander Edler with the 91st overall pick in the third round. The six-foot-three Edler had three goals and six assists in in 24 games this season.

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Rudee

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Originally posted by: oldfoof
I think I should get special Icon or somthing for havn the biggest thread lol


5741 and counting .. .


Doesn't count when 95% of the posts are thread bumps from Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: oldfoof
I think I should get special Icon or somthing for havn the biggest thread lol


5741 and counting .. .


Doesn't count when 95% of the posts are thread bumps from Aquaman

Ha8er

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Lalime goes to the Blues

The Ottawa Senators traded goaltender Patrick Lalime to the St. Louis Blues for a fourth round draft pick in 2005 on Sunday, clearing the way for the team to sign Dominik Hasek. Lalime spent five seasons with the Senators, compiling a 146-100-30 record. He was to become a restricted free agent and the Senators would have had to make a qualifying offer of $2.575 million US to retain his rights.

Fourth round pick in 2k5? We should have gotten him as Hedberg's time is probably limited...
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Lalime goes to the Blues

The Ottawa Senators traded goaltender Patrick Lalime to the St. Louis Blues for a fourth round draft pick in 2005 on Sunday, clearing the way for the team to sign Dominik Hasek. Lalime spent five seasons with the Senators, compiling a 146-100-30 record. He was to become a restricted free agent and the Senators would have had to make a qualifying offer of $2.575 million US to retain his rights.

Fourth round pick in 2k5? We should have gotten him as Hedberg's time is probably limited...

they probably didn't talk to use since we would be there rivals........... plus 3.5 million is more then Cloutier makes.

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Bertuzzi retreats into private life

Canadian Press
6/27/2004

RALEIGH, N.C. (CP) - Todd Bertuzzi has retreated into his private life and will not be speaking publicly about the assault charges laid against him, his agent said in a television interview Sunday.

The Vancouver Canucks forward was charged Thursday with assault causing bodily harm for a March 8 on-ice attack that left Colorado Avalanche forward Steve Moore with a broken neck and his NHL career in doubt.

Bertuzzi's only public comment was a tearful apology two nights after the incident occurred.

``Really since March 9 we saw him speak publicly to address Steve Moore and address the kids of hockey and to apologize, Todd's taken an approach that things that happen in his life will remain private,'' agent Pat Morris told The Score at the NHL draft.

``So he's become a private person through this.''

Bertuzzi has hired prominent British Columbia lawyer Len Doust to defend him.

``We'll meet with him this week and go through what our options are now that the charges have been laid,'' Morris said. ``So we'll come to a conclusion or a direction as to where we're going next.''

Bertuzzi, 29, has been ordered to appear in provincial court July 9.

If found guilty, he could face a penalty ranging from jail time to an absolute discharge with no criminal record.

Morris admitted there was also the possibility of a civil suit from Moore.

``One would be optimistic that they see the criminal charges become enough,'' he said. ``But it's for someone else to answer.''

Following the incident, the NHL suspended Bertuzzi for the final 13 games of the regular season and Vancouver's seven playoff games. He must have a hearing with the league before he can be reinstated.

The ban cost Bertuzzi $501,926.39 US of his $6.8-million salary. The Canucks were also fined $250,000. Bertuzzi was also left off Team Canada's roster for this fall's World Cup.

Morris felt his client had been punished enough by the NHL without the criminal charge.

``You hope that with the sentence handed down by the National Hockey League - it was very severe - that that was enough, but the government saw it the other way,'' Morris said.

``It was a tough time on Thursday. You wait 3 to four months and you hope that the passage of time means that they've been methodical about looking at it, which they were, and you become a little optimistic that it's going to be a positive result but clearly it wasn't.''

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