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Avs' Moore still not skating yet

TSN.ca Staff
10/5/2004

Colorado Avalanche center Steve Moore is still bothered by post-concussion symptoms and is not healthy enough to begin skating.

"Steve can't skate yet," Moore's agent Larry Kelly tells the Denver Post. "He's continuing his rehabilitation, but he's just not there yet."

Kelly says Moore's neck fracture suffered in a March 8 game against the Vancouver Canucks when he was tackled from behind by Todd Bertuzzi appears to have healed. However, he is still experiencing dizziness whenever he attempts any kind of physical activity.

Bertuzzi, who is currently under suspension by the NHL, is scheduled to go to trial January 17 on assualt charges in Vancouver. Kelly says no decision has been made yet on whether or not to file civil charges against Bertuzzi.

That thug deserves to go to jail.

Other than that, I can't believe there won't be any NHL this year Hopefully, although we all better, it can get worked out soon.

 

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Avs' Moore still not skating yet

TSN.ca Staff
10/5/2004

Colorado Avalanche center Steve Moore is still bothered by post-concussion symptoms and is not healthy enough to begin skating.

"Steve can't skate yet," Moore's agent Larry Kelly tells the Denver Post. "He's continuing his rehabilitation, but he's just not there yet."

Kelly says Moore's neck fracture suffered in a March 8 game against the Vancouver Canucks when he was tackled from behind by Todd Bertuzzi appears to have healed. However, he is still experiencing dizziness whenever he attempts any kind of physical activity.

Bertuzzi, who is currently under suspension by the NHL, is scheduled to go to trial January 17 on assualt charges in Vancouver. Kelly says no decision has been made yet on whether or not to file civil charges against Bertuzzi.

That thug deserves to go to jail.

Other than that, I can't believe there won't be any NHL this year Hopefully, although we all better, it can get worked out soon.

They need to do something about the fighting and aggression in the NHL. They normally let the players hit and fight it out, but as soon as someone gets hurt, they act surprised.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: clicknext
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Avs' Moore still not skating yet

TSN.ca Staff
10/5/2004

Colorado Avalanche center Steve Moore is still bothered by post-concussion symptoms and is not healthy enough to begin skating.

"Steve can't skate yet," Moore's agent Larry Kelly tells the Denver Post. "He's continuing his rehabilitation, but he's just not there yet."

Kelly says Moore's neck fracture suffered in a March 8 game against the Vancouver Canucks when he was tackled from behind by Todd Bertuzzi appears to have healed. However, he is still experiencing dizziness whenever he attempts any kind of physical activity.

Bertuzzi, who is currently under suspension by the NHL, is scheduled to go to trial January 17 on assualt charges in Vancouver. Kelly says no decision has been made yet on whether or not to file civil charges against Bertuzzi.

That thug deserves to go to jail.

Other than that, I can't believe there won't be any NHL this year Hopefully, although we all better, it can get worked out soon.

They need to do something about the fighting and aggression in the NHL. They normally let the players hit and fight it out, but as soon as someone gets hurt, they act surprised.

No they don't, and that's why this happened. The NHL has the instigator rule which prevents goons from starting clean fights with guys who take cheap shots at the star players. If there had been no instigator rule Moore would have been pounded by May, then by Bertuzzi, then by Cooke, then by whoever else happened to be on the ice for Moore's 4th shift that night. They all would have been clean hockey fights, and Moore would think twice about going after a guy like Naslund again. Actually, if there had been no instigator rule, Moore wouldn't even have gone after Naslund that first time as he would know what was going to be coming to him.
 

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: clicknext
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Avs' Moore still not skating yet

TSN.ca Staff
10/5/2004

Colorado Avalanche center Steve Moore is still bothered by post-concussion symptoms and is not healthy enough to begin skating.

"Steve can't skate yet," Moore's agent Larry Kelly tells the Denver Post. "He's continuing his rehabilitation, but he's just not there yet."

Kelly says Moore's neck fracture suffered in a March 8 game against the Vancouver Canucks when he was tackled from behind by Todd Bertuzzi appears to have healed. However, he is still experiencing dizziness whenever he attempts any kind of physical activity.

Bertuzzi, who is currently under suspension by the NHL, is scheduled to go to trial January 17 on assualt charges in Vancouver. Kelly says no decision has been made yet on whether or not to file civil charges against Bertuzzi.

That thug deserves to go to jail.

Other than that, I can't believe there won't be any NHL this year Hopefully, although we all better, it can get worked out soon.

They need to do something about the fighting and aggression in the NHL. They normally let the players hit and fight it out, but as soon as someone gets hurt, they act surprised.

No they don't, and that's why this happened. The NHL has the instigator rule which prevents goons from starting clean fights with guys who take cheap shots at the star players. If there had been no instigator rule Moore would have been pounded by May, then by Bertuzzi, then by Cooke, then by whoever else happened to be on the ice for Moore's 4th shift that night. They all would have been clean hockey fights, and Moore would think twice about going after a guy like Naslund again. Actually, if there had been no instigator rule, Moore wouldn't even have gone after Naslund that first time as he would know what was going to be coming to him.

Hazzah :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Canucks' Morrison settles in Sweden

Canadian Press
10/20/2004

Brendan Morrison apologizes at the other end of the phone because he can barely be heard over the playful screams of his nearly one-year-old daughter, McKenna.

The Morrison family is right at home after over a month in Linkoping, a Swedish town of 135,000 about two hours southwest of Stockholm.

``It's been a real positive experience,'' the Vancouver Canucks centre said Wednesday. ``The adjustment off the ice hasn't been that difficult. The lifestyle here is a little simpler, a little more laid-back than being in Vancouver.''

More laid-back than Vancouver?

``It's got a small-town feel, but we've got everything we need and my family has been able to adjust quickly - and that was one of my biggest concerns,'' said Morrison, who also brought along wife Erin and 2-year-old son Brayden for the adventure.

It isn't surprising that Morrison was one of the first NHLers to sign in Europe because of the lockout. He was already talking about it back in May when he played for Canada at the world hockey championships in Prague.

He wasn't afraid to move his family overseas because of what he's learned from his parents, who have lived in Hungary the past six years. His father works for a Calgary-based gas company in Budapest.

``Over the years they've been overseas they've told us how much they've enjoyed it,'' Morrison said. ``It was a new experience for them, they didn't know anyone when they came over and it's turned out to be such a positive experience for them. They've seen parts of the world that they probably would have never seen before.''

It's not the first time the native of Pitt Meadows, B.C., has played club hockey in Europe. He played six games with Pardubice in the Czech Republic in October 1999 during a contract dispute with the New Jersey Devils.

But this time he may be in Europe for the long haul because of the NHL lockout.

``I was optimistic all along that something would get done. I guess I was naive,'' said Morrison, the Canucks' NHLPA team representative.

``But I think the breaking point will be January, just like it was in the past. That's kind of the date where things have to be settled to have a season worthwhile.

``That's what I'm anticipating, being here until January, although I know full well I could be here the full year.''

Morrison is among 212 NHLers who had signed with European clubs as of Wednesday.

Defenceman Brian Campbell of the Buffalo Sabres and Phoenix Coyotes goaltender Brian Boucher were the latest to head over. Campbell joined Jokerit in Helsinki and Boucher signed with the Swedish champion HV71.

They've been criticized in some circles for taking jobs away from other players and Morrison was cognizant of that from the get-go.

``Along with my family adapting off the ice, that was probably my biggest concern,'' Morrison said. ``How would I be accepted and viewed amongst the team. We signed early, right at the beginning of August, and that gave the team time to let some young guys know. They had some 19-year-old and 20-year-old players that were right on the cusp of making it but they knew very early that they would go back to junior - it didn't come as a complete surprise.

``Still, you are concerned that you're coming over and taking somebody's spot. But everything has been positive. The guys have been great and have made us feel real welcome.''

He's also made a great first impression, putting up 11 points (4-7) in his first 10 games while playing on an all-NHL line with Kristian Huselius of the Florida Panthers and Mike Knuble of the Philadelphia Flyers.

``When a team like this takes a risk and signs a foreigner, you want to be able to perform. So it's been nice that our line has been able to deliver,'' said Morrison, adding that Huselius went down with a knee injury two games ago.

Playing with Knuble, an old college teammate who is represented by the same agent as Morrison, has been a blast.

``It's been a while, I guess 10 years since we last played together at school,'' said Morrison, who skated with Knuble at Michigan in the mid-1990s.

On Saturday, Morrison will face Canucks teammates for the first time this season when he travels north to play Modo, featuring the Sedin twins and Peter Forsberg.

``He's the main attraction over here, it's amazing,'' Morrison said of the Colorado Avalanche star. ``He's in the paper every day. It's like `What did Peter do today when he was at home?' He's covered pretty thoroughly here.

``People are really excited that he's back home.''

Morrison has a lot of time for Swedish hockey fans in general.

``I catch myself sometimes during the game staring up at the fans at home,'' he said. ``If we have a good shift, there's a particular section of fans on the end - they start singing and chanting and they'll go for 10 minutes. You're just sitting there and you're amazed at how passionate they are.''

The team plays in a new 8,500-seat arena that will host the women's world hockey championship next April.

``The fans are right on top of you,'' Morrison said. ``It's been a neat experience.''

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Homeland calling for Canucks captain

If the lockout wipes out the season, Naslund may retire from the NHL.

Sportsnet.ca -- If the NHL lockout drags on, the Vancouver Canucks may lose more than the season.

Captain Markus Naslund told Sportsnet that he wishes to be a part of the Canuck organization in the future, but is considering making the move back home to Sweden.

"This is a team that has a good opportunity to be a contender here for a couple of years," Naslund said. "I would love to be a part of that. But depending on how long the lockout is going to be - it's a little bit of a different situation."

Playing in Vancouver with his teammates and the fans have been what the Canuck captain calls the best years of his life, but he has to consider more than his own feelings.

"You have to look at the big picture," Naslund said. "I'm trying to do what's best for me and what's best for my family."

Naslund is in the final year of a three-year, $15-million contract.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

silverpig

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HOLY CRAP.

Just got back from tonight's Lions game. Dayum what a finish. I won't spoil it, so check the highlights yourself.

Who else is going to the West Final?
 

IcemanJer

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a-ha! I posted this after silverpig's post... hehe, daylight saving time change-over screwing up post sequence...
 

Aquaman

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Baumgartner would accept a salary cap

TSN.ca Staff
11/2/2004

Manitoba Moose defenceman Nolan Baumgartner is the latest player to say he'd accept a salary cap to end the NHL lockout.

''It's hard for me to answer, but if that (cap) is what it takes, obviously we want to get back playing,'' Baumgartner told the Vancouver Province on Monday. ''And that looks like what it's going to take.''

Baumgartner has played in just 48 NHL games with the Vancouver Canucks, Pittsburgh Penguins, Chicago Blackhawks and Washington Capitals and has registered one goal and seven assits. The 10th overall pick in the 1994 NHL entry draft is earning $125,000 US with the Moose, but would make $450,000 with the Canucks.

''That ($450,000) is what I'd be making if there was a cap anyway, so it really wouldn't affect me,'' he said.

Baumgartner also told the paper that he understands why some fringe players are speaking out in favour of accepting a salary cap.

''It's the guys who were making $300,000 or $400,000 and are now making nothing. It's tough for them. They have families and houses and car payments and are trying to make ends meet.

''It's nice to make the money, but when it comes down to it, everybody just wants to play hockey. Some guys don't have many years left to win a Cup and I want to get my foot in the NHL door and win a Cup. That's everybody's dream and that's why I think a lot of guys want to get it done.''

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Squisher

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The players seem to be blinking.

Every players assoc. that has a salary cap said that they wouldn't accept a salary cap before they did so.


Blink louder!
 

Aquaman

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Linden defends NHLers in Europe

Canadian Press
11/2/2004

TORONTO (CP) - Trevor Linden has a message for former Vancouver Canucks teammate Corey Hirsch: look in the mirror.

Linden, the president of the players' executive committee at the NHL Players' Association, steadfastly defended his NHL colleagues for plying their trade in Europe while the lockout endures.

Hirsch, who played with Linden's Canucks in the late 1990s, twice ripped into NHLers in the last week for taking jobs away from players such as himself in Europe.

``Corey went there three years ago and certainly took someone else's job,'' Linden said after Tuesday's NHLPA meeting. ``Now it's happening to him and it'll happen to me one day.''

Added Linden: ``Hockey's a competitive game. Guys fight for their jobs every day.''

The union's view, or at least at the top, is that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and not just in hockey.

``That's the nature of employment in all walks of life, someone is always taking someone else's job,'' said St. Louis Blues star Chris Pronger, defending the rights of NHLers in Europe. ``We're locked out, we don't have a job.

``We're free to look for employment elsewhere. If we were on strike, I would feel different.''

Not everyone agrees. Edmonton Oilers winger Georges Laraque slammed his fellow NHLers in Europe.

``It's not right,'' Laraque told the Edmonton Journal. ``It's like being locked out by IGA, then deciding to go and work for another store.

``You put staff out of work.''

The Oilers tough guy said he can't stomach seeing more than 240 NHLers in Europe.

``As a union, we should be respecting the players over in Europe,'' he said. ``As a union, we should be all skating together here.

``We shouldn't be taking their spots.''

Still, the overwhelming marority of players believe it's their right to play hockey anywhere they can while the NHL owners lock them out.

``It's not been a divisive issue at all in the membership,'' said NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow. ``The players are locked out and are free to find other employment.''

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Naslund, Burke fear for future of NHL

Canadian Press
11/4/2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - Vancouver Canuck captain Markus Naslund says he is concerned for the future of the NHL if the current labour dispute continues between the owners and players.

``I think it's a dangerous game that is being played right now,'' Naslund said Thursday while attending a sports celebrity charity fund-raising event.

``For the interest of the game and the fan support it is dangerous right now.''

The NHL locked out the players Sept. 15 in a dispute that centres on the owners desire for a salary cap. The players are adamant they won't accept any form of salary cap and the two sides haven't talked since Sept. 9.

Naslund is afraid the longer the lockout lasts, the more the game will suffer in the United States.

``I'm not too worried about the Canadian markets . . . but in the U.S., definitely,'' he said.

Brian Burke, the Canucks former general manager, went a step further. He fears a prolonged dispute will result in some U.S. teams folding.

``I'm terrified what it might do to the game,'' said Burke, who now works as a TSN hockey analyst.

``When ever you have a work stoppage there is some erosion of your fan base. The longer it goes, the more you have.

``Will the Canadian markets rebound? I believe they will. Are all the U.S. markets going to make it through something like this if it goes on much longer? I don't think so. Beside the risk of losing franchises, the damage that is done, even to the ones that survive, it's a big cost.''

Canucks forward Trever Linden, president of the NHLPA, also attended the function but declined to speak to the media.

Neither Naslund or Burke sounded optimistic the NHL would play this season.

Naslund, who is spending part of the year in Vancouver for tax reasons, said he is considering returning to his native Sweden after Christmas to play for his old team Modo.

``I haven't decided definitely, but I'd like to play this year,'' he said.

``Hopefully it will be here. If not I'm probably going to take a hard look at Sweden and playing there.''

Burke has been the eternal optimism that a deal could be reached to save the season. But his hope is falling like fall leafs.

``I'm doubtful about it for the first time,'' he admitted.

``I think there's a very real risk we're not going to play.''

To save the season the players and owners must be talking in December, said Burke.

``In terms of playing a meaningful season, were I at the (owner's) table, I would say anything less than half a season is not meaningful,'' he said.

``You have to play 40 games. If they're not in serious talks by Dec. 20, in my opinion, and if we're not in training camp by Jan. 15, there's not going to be a season.''

If the season is wiped out there is speculation Naslund might not return to Vancouver. He has one year left on a contract that pays him $5.47 million US. He turned 31 in July and would be an unrestricted free agent.

``It's tough to plan anything right now,'' Naslund said.

``I'm constantly thinking about what is going on but I have no definitely plans now.''

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Locked out players to skate for charity

Canadian Press
11/9/2004

VICTORIA (CP) - Locked-out hockey players plan to use a charity hockey game next month in Victoria as a way to stay in touch with fans and offer Christmas presents to people less fortunate than themselves, says an NHL player association representative and a retired Vancouver Canuck.

The NHL players and retired NHLers living in the Victoria area will play a charity game Dec. 9 at a 2,500-seat arena designed for Junior A hockey.

Some of the league's top players are already confirmed to play, including New Jersey's Scott Neidermayer, Edmonton Oiler Ryan Smyth, Toronto Maple Leafs Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk and Canuck Dan Cloutier.

Colorado Avalanche defenceman Rob Blake is also part of the line-up, but his playing status hasn't been confirmed.

``We do these games because we want to give back to the community,'' said Wes Walz, a member of the Minnesota Wild and the NHL team's player association representative.

``We're trying to do things for people and give money and give people an opportunity to watch hockey,'' he said.

The money raised from the Victoria game will go to a Victoria-based charity that plans on brightening Christmas for needy children and families, Walz said.

``We want to see the looks on these kids' faces when we go deliver these gifts to the doors,'' he said.

``We want to see the looks on these parents faces when we can hand the family that can't afford it a $10,000 diabetes pump.''

The Victoria game appears to have become part of a four-game challenge series between groups of locked out NHLers.

Brad May, a Vancouver Canuck journeyman forward, has set up games in Vancouver, Kamloops and Prince George.

The money raised from May's games will go to local charities and the Vancouver-based Canuck Place Hospice House for sick children.

The game in Prince George was originally supposed to pit the NHL players against the Western Hockey League's Prince George Cougars.

But the WHL nixed the plan for insurance reasons. So now, the NHLers will play each other.

In Victoria, May's team will play a team comprised of NHL players who have invested in a Victoria golf, hotel and housing development spearheaded by former NHL player Len Barrie.

Members of Barrie's Bear Mountain Resort team include: Sean Burke, Rob Neidermayer and retired NHL brothers Russ and Geoff Courtnall.

Greg Adams, a retired Vancouver Canuck, said he will suit up for the Bear Mountain squad.

``It's a great opportunity for the guys who are still playing to stay in touch with the fans and keep our relationship with the fans,'' he said.

``They realize that these sort of things are important for them right now in their negotiations.''

Adams, who has been retired for three years, said the players and fans miss the game and need to make opportunities to keep hockey alive.

``This time of year it just feels awkward not sitting down to watch a hockey game somewhere along the line,'' he said.

``It's hard on everyone. Everyone is missing it. No one wants to be playing more than the players themselves.''

The length of the lock-out plays deeply on the minds of the players, but nobody is holding out hope for a quick settlement.

Adams, Walz and Barrie all agree that crunch time for a settlement will be early December, but if nothing happens then, the whole season will likely be lost.

``At some point at the end of the day, when you are negotiating with somebody, you're going to have to have someone to negotiate with, and right now I personally feel like we're having a difficult time getting anyone to negotiate,'' said Walz.''

``I'm 34 years old, and OK I'm getting older, and no one wants a new CBA deal done faster or sooner than me,'' he said.

Tickets for the game will be sold for $30 each and $25 for standing room.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Canucks to announce partial sale

TSN.ca Staff
11/16/2004

The Vancouver Canucks have called a news conference for Wednesday morning at GM Place to announce the sale of a percentage of the National Hockey League club.

The deal is expected to include a sale of 49% of the team with current owner John McCaw of Orca Bay Sports & Entertainment retaining majority ownership. McCaw has reportedly been trying to sell all or part of the club for several years.

The late Frank Griffiths, who was inducted into the Builders Category of the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1993, owned the team from 1974 until his passing in 1994. His son, Arthur then took over ownership of the club before selling his majority share to McCaw and the Orca Bay Group in 1996.

The Canucks are reported to have made a profit of $25 million last season and $20 million in the 2002-2003 campaign.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Aquilini buys 50 percent of Canucks

Canadian Press
11/16/2004

VANCOUVER - The Aquilini Investment Group has purchased 50 per cent of the Vancouver Canucks from American John McCaw.

The purchase price was not immediately disclosed.

The Aquilini Investment Group, a commercial and residential real estate company, is headed by Francesco Aquilini.

The announcement was made at news conference at GM Place on Wednesday.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

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Originally posted by: kalster
why are there fewer views than posts in this thread

Prolly has to do with updates to the forum. IIRC the number of views didn't even exist in the version that was in use 2002...
 
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