**OFFICIAL WAR THREAD** 7th Calvary fights off Iraqi attack; Bush seeks 75 billion for war

[MoobyTheGoldenCalf]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030324/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_dirty_tricks&cid=540&ncid=1478

Iraqi Guerrilla Tactics Snarl Coalition

This paragraph got to me:

At a secret desert base, pilots of the 3rd Marine Helicopter Wing and intelligence officials reported that "surrendering" Iraqis would put down their arms when Marines passed by, then pick them up again and attack the helicopters. The small-arms fire has not downed any helicopters or wounded any crew members so far.

Why are we not collecting the weapons of surrendering troops??? I thought we we only going to allow senior officers to keep their sidearms.

 

[Queasy]

LMAO - Saddam refers to General who surrendered early in war as 'heroic'!

CANNED SADDAM?
And when he cited several units and commanders, saluting them ?for their heroic feats in the battlefield,? he named the commander of the 11th Iraqi Brigade in Basra, who surrendered along with many of his troops in the early hours of the war. That prompted officials at the allied Central Command in Qatar to conclude that the tape was likely recorded before the beginning of the hostilities. British Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon came to a similar conclusion in a briefing on Monday.

?As far as the pictures this morning are concerned, obviously analysis continues. But what I can say straight away is that those pictures were not live,? he told a London news conference.

Hoon added that Saddam?s health made no difference to the military campaign.

I disagree with the last sentence. I think it is obvious that once Saddam is definitely gone then the threat of his retaliations against the people of Iraq is gone as well.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Does anyone else have a hard time sitting back, going around your normal routine, knowning that other Americans are off dying for you? It's been really bothering me lately, to the extent that I feel I need to do something about it. I dunno, it just doesn't seem fair at all. I'm 18 years old, white, middle class. I've never been in a fight or in trouble or anything. Yet, my life seems so priviledged compared to those that have to fight right know. It really bothers me that soldiers are out there dying for me.

*sigh*

I felt that way yesterday after I saw the pictures of the troops who had been executed. Still do.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Does anyone else have a hard time sitting back, going around your normal routine, knowning that other Americans are off dying for you? It's been really bothering me lately, to the extent that I feel I need to do something about it. I dunno, it just doesn't seem fair at all. I'm 18 years old, white, middle class. I've never been in a fight or in trouble or anything. Yet, my life seems so priviledged compared to those that have to fight right know. It really bothers me that soldiers are out there dying for me.

*sigh*

Well, you could always support the troops that are out there dying for you. There are several organizations that you can donate money and/or time to help the troops and their families. You can even send email and write letters thanking them for what they do.

And of course, you can always join up yourself to fight for your way of life.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Does anyone else have a hard time sitting back, going around your normal routine, knowning that other Americans are off dying for you? It's been really bothering me lately, to the extent that I feel I need to do something about it. I dunno, it just doesn't seem fair at all. I'm 18 years old, white, middle class. I've never been in a fight or in trouble or anything. Yet, my life seems so priviledged compared to those that have to fight right know. It really bothers me that soldiers are out there dying for me.

*sigh*

I feel that way too.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Queasy
And of course, you can always join up yourself to fight for your way of life.

Some of us have already done that.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Queasy
And of course, you can always join up yourself to fight for your way of life.

Some of us have already done that.

Big props and thank yous to those that have.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Does anyone else have a hard time sitting back, going around your normal routine, knowning that other Americans are off dying for you? It's been really bothering me lately, to the extent that I feel I need to do something about it. I dunno, it just doesn't seem fair at all. I'm 18 years old, white, middle class. I've never been in a fight or in trouble or anything. Yet, my life seems so priviledged compared to those that have to fight right know. It really bothers me that soldiers are out there dying for me.

*sigh*

Well, you could always support the troops that are out there dying for you. There are several organizations that you can donate money and/or time to help the troops and their families. You can even send email and write letters thanking them for what they do.

And of course, you can always join up yourself to fight for your way of life.

I've actually considered doing ROTC in college. Until then though, I try to make the most of my days. I dunno, doing little things makes me feel better, like picking up litter on the streets, keeping the lawn clean. I know it isn't much, but, for some reason itmakes me feel somewhat better.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Does anyone else have a hard time sitting back, going around your normal routine, knowning that other Americans are off dying for you? It's been really bothering me lately, to the extent that I feel I need to do something about it. I dunno, it just doesn't seem fair at all. I'm 18 years old, white, middle class. I've never been in a fight or in trouble or anything. Yet, my life seems so priviledged compared to those that have to fight right know. It really bothers me that soldiers are out there dying for me.

*sigh*

Well, you could always support the troops that are out there dying for you. There are several organizations that you can donate money and/or time to help the troops and their families. You can even send email and write letters thanking them for what they do.

Please post where I can email them.

And of course, you can always join up yourself to fight for your way of life.

I've already worn a uniform defending democracy and freedom.

 

[BooGiMaN]

someone here at work told me they heard that we intercepted a communication from iraq to russia for a surgeon, which would imply they would only do this for saddam if he was injured

has anyone heard this or is this just another rumor goign around

 

[MainFramed]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
H&K's are cool, sponging off mom is not....

The armed services will give you a place to stay too, then you can act out your dreams....

never said i would like to make my dreams come true....

 

[Queasy]

Operation Dear Abby
Lets you send messages to the troops that they can read if they are where they can get internet access.

Email Navy personnel

Another email to the Navy

 

[TubStain]

- Massive blast heard near the US Navy 5th fleet HQ in Bahrain

 

[burnedout]

I don't know if anyone remembers the lieutenant back in the mid 80's that was court martialed because he left a marine out in the desert in California on a training exercise simply because he forgot to get a headcount before they left. The guy died of dehydration. They didn't even know he was missing for a couple of days, and by that time, he was probably already dead.

The incident out at Fort Irwin? I remember it. In fact, that incident is relayed by OCs and cadre to rotational units during their orientations. There was a serious breakdown in basic accountability.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: TranceGOD
- Massive blast heard near the US Navy 5th fleet HQ in Bahrain

Source? Link?

 

[justint]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Operation Dear Abby
Lets you send messages to the troops that they can read if they are where they can get internet access.

Email Navy personnel

Another email to the Navy

Although writing letters and e-mails to military personnel sounds good, please realize that the military postal facilities and e-mail capabilities particularly on smaller ships is very very limited. E-mail especially, some ships use a metered sattelite system to download e-mails a couple of times a day and a huge batch of messages can literally overrun thier budget. If ships get flooded with messages some families may not be able to communicate with thier loved ones. Being able to get your e-mails from your family is VERY VERY important when you are deployed. Random letters and packages to troops ties up very limited air mail capabilities. Try volunteering at your local Red Cross again, they are doing a lot of work for service personel.

 

[TubStain]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: TranceGOD
- Massive blast heard near the US Navy 5th fleet HQ in Bahrain

Source? Link?

No worries it was a propane tank, and no one was injured. This is off the Dow Jones News wires. Though I think Foxnews is mentioning it on their Breaking news.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: burnedout

I don't know if anyone remembers the lieutenant back in the mid 80's that was court martialed because he left a marine out in the desert in California on a training exercise simply because he forgot to get a headcount before they left. The guy died of dehydration. They didn't even know he was missing for a couple of days, and by that time, he was probably already dead.

The incident out at Fort Irwin? I remember it. In fact, that incident is relayed by OCs and cadre to rotational units during their orientations. There was a serious breakdown in basic accountability.

That's the one. It's the simple details that make a difference.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: AntiWar2
You've been asked to post in the appropriate forum and you continue ignore the request. It's obvious that you are only posting to start a flame war. Take a week off to think about it.

Edited: 03/24/2003 at 11:32 AM by AnandTech Moderator - No, asshole, it is apparent that you are an ignorant f÷ck.

[Blade]Some motherf***ers are always trying to ice skate uphill[/BLADE]

IP ban?

 

[Bulk Beef]

what if I told you my profile is simply random?

That would dovetail nicely with what seems to be floating around in your little head.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: AntiWar2
I'm sure you see this person is obviously a fool, pardon me for pointing out the irony he is also Canadian -

You, apparently have deducted that I am canadian from my profile what if I told you my profile is simply random? Shmuck

Go away troll.

 

[SP33Demon]

^^^^^ Everyone look, it's a new strain of "moron". I saw one of them at the zoo once, and we're so privileged to see another here!

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: justint

Originally posted by: Queasy
Operation Dear Abby
Lets you send messages to the troops that they can read if they are where they can get internet access.

Email Navy personnel

Another email to the Navy

Although writing letters and e-mails to military personnel sounds good, please realize that the military postal facilities and e-mail capabilities particularly on smaller ships is very very limited. E-mail especially, some ships use a metered sattelite system to download e-mails a couple of times a day and a huge batch of messages can literally overrun thier budget. If ships get flooded with messages some families may not be able to communicate with thier loved ones. Being able to get your e-mails from your family is VERY VERY important when you are deployed. Random letters and packages to troops ties up very limited air mail capabilities. Try volunteering at your local Red Cross again, they are doing a lot of work for service personel.

Operation Dear Abby does not necessarily send email. Military personnel can go to the site and select the state and branch they belong to and read messages supporting them.

I agree with you about the Red Cross, however. They do a wonderful job of supporting the troops. I know there are many churches doing what they can as well.

 

[joohang]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I hope you all heard Rush Limbaugh's opening monologue today. He addressed what we're all feeling; this rollercoaster of emotions.

To put things in perspective, we lost more American soldiers in the first 5 minutes of the Normandy Invasion than we have in the first 5 days of this entire war. I think it was foolish for anyone to think that we'd take over a country with no casualties.

The problem is that never before in the history of warfare has the public been so involved from so far way. With the media and Internet, the public is more involved than ever. Problem is, the public isn't prepared for the intensity, whereas our soldiers are.

I noticed that a lot of people who posted in these Forums about the war prior to it starting were talking about how easy it would be. The News Channels like Fox and CNN didn't help matters reporting early on that it was going to be easy.

One thing I don't feel comfortable about with this war is the fact that we don't secure towns in our big rush to Baghdad. It seems we are leaving our flanks wide open to the Wags who are taking advantage of that fact to hit our supply lines with Guerilla tactics. Maybe we need more troops to occupy this towns and cities as the inhabititants only seem to want to cause us harm.

Wise words.

I also don't think that it will be that easy to capture and secure cities like Baghdad. More and more reports about the Iraqis not support the coalition forces don't seem to help either. They've been saying that it is probably their fear of Saddam, but I am not sure if that explains everything.

This will be a difficult war, at least much more difficult than it was portrayed as.

 

[joohang]

If we were allowed to pander a little less to political opinion; we would not need more troops.

How so?