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dougp

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
anyplace online to see this?
(Skins game)?

check google for justin.tv ... they generally always have the cowboys games online.
 

poncherelli2

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Second game the Chargers lost this year directly because of a bad ref call. They aren't paying the refs enough.

Not really. It kept the Steelers from covering the spread though.

it was 13-1 penalty differential... how did the refs screw SD in any way?

Edit: nm
 

Mill

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Referee says officials errantly voided Steelers TD

By ALAN ROBINSON ? 1 hour ago
PITTSBURGH (AP) ? The first 11-10 game in NFL history shouldn't have ended that way, referee Scott Green said after a last-minute touchdown was errantly taken away from the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.
The officiating mistake didn't affect the outcome since the Steelers still would have won, but the touchdown would have changed the score to 17-10 ? or, more likely, 18-10, since the teams were lined up for an extra-point try that was never attempted.
On first-and-10 from San Diego's 21 with 5 seconds remaining, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers threw a short pass to LaDainian Tomlinson over the middle for 3 yards. Tomlinson turned and made a handoff-type lateral to wide receiver Chris Chambers, who attempted to pitch the ball to a teammate only to have safety Troy Polamalu scoop it up and score from the 12.
Both teams left the field on what looked to be a game-ending play, but were called back by the officials for the extra-point attempt. At that point, the replay official called for a review.
After watching the play, Green initially announced the ruling on the field was upheld and the touchdown counted. But the officiating crew huddled again before the extra-point attempt and changed the call, deciding that an illegal forward pass by Rivers should've ended the play.
Green, in a postgame interview with a pool reporter, said that call was errant ? even though his explanation for the confusion was almost as confusing as the play itself.
"We should have let the play go through in the end, yes," Green said. "It was misinterpreted that instead of killing the play, we should have let the play go through."
Green said the confusion occurred because there was a misunderstanding about whether Rivers' pass or Tomlinson's lateral was in question.
"The first pass was the one that was illegal, but it only kills the play if it hits the ground," Green said. "That was incorrect to have killed it at that point. The ruling should have let the play go on. That's just the way that it played out. We believe the second pass (by Tomlinson) was legal."
Green was asked why, since the first pass by Rivers did not hit the ground, the officials decided after huddling that the play should have ended there.
"We didn't kill it on the field," Green said. "After (the) discussion we decided ... there was some confusion over which pass we were talking about and it was decided that it was the second pass that was illegal that did hit the ground and therefore we killed the play there."
However, the officials realized afterward they erred.
"I know," Green said. "The rule was misinterpreted."
Asked about the officiating ? the Steelers drew 115 yards in penalties to the Chargers' 5 ? Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin declined to comment.
"No, I have never seen a game ended with 13-to-1 in penalties, but I am not answering questions about the officiating," Tomlin said.
The call affected betting on the game since the Steelers were 5-point favorites and would have covered if the touchdown counted.
 

poncherelli2

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Originally posted by: Mill
Referee says officials errantly voided Steelers TD

By ALAN ROBINSON ? 1 hour ago
PITTSBURGH (AP) ? The first 11-10 game in NFL history shouldn't have ended that way, referee Scott Green said after a last-minute touchdown was errantly taken away from the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.
The officiating mistake didn't affect the outcome since the Steelers still would have won, but the touchdown would have changed the score to 17-10 ? or, more likely, 18-10, since the teams were lined up for an extra-point try that was never attempted.
On first-and-10 from San Diego's 21 with 5 seconds remaining, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers threw a short pass to LaDainian Tomlinson over the middle for 3 yards. Tomlinson turned and made a handoff-type lateral to wide receiver Chris Chambers, who attempted to pitch the ball to a teammate only to have safety Troy Polamalu scoop it up and score from the 12.
Both teams left the field on what looked to be a game-ending play, but were called back by the officials for the extra-point attempt. At that point, the replay official called for a review.
After watching the play, Green initially announced the ruling on the field was upheld and the touchdown counted. But the officiating crew huddled again before the extra-point attempt and changed the call, deciding that an illegal forward pass by Rivers should've ended the play.
Green, in a postgame interview with a pool reporter, said that call was errant ? even though his explanation for the confusion was almost as confusing as the play itself.
"We should have let the play go through in the end, yes," Green said. "It was misinterpreted that instead of killing the play, we should have let the play go through."
Green said the confusion occurred because there was a misunderstanding about whether Rivers' pass or Tomlinson's lateral was in question.
"The first pass was the one that was illegal, but it only kills the play if it hits the ground," Green said. "That was incorrect to have killed it at that point. The ruling should have let the play go on. That's just the way that it played out. We believe the second pass (by Tomlinson) was legal."
Green was asked why, since the first pass by Rivers did not hit the ground, the officials decided after huddling that the play should have ended there.
"We didn't kill it on the field," Green said. "After (the) discussion we decided ... there was some confusion over which pass we were talking about and it was decided that it was the second pass that was illegal that did hit the ground and therefore we killed the play there."
However, the officials realized afterward they erred.
"I know," Green said. "The rule was misinterpreted."
Asked about the officiating ? the Steelers drew 115 yards in penalties to the Chargers' 5 ? Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin declined to comment.
"No, I have never seen a game ended with 13-to-1 in penalties, but I am not answering questions about the officiating," Tomlin said.
The call affected betting on the game since the Steelers were 5-point favorites and would have covered if the touchdown counted.

These are the inexcusable mistakes because they are not errors in judgment, which are more forgivable, these are just flat out not understanding the rules errors.
 

Mill

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Yep. It wasn't a judgment call -- it was a rulebook call. Even if it was a forward lateral (which I don't think it was) the Steelers can advance it. They simply didn't know the rules.

 

GenHoth

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Is the play up anywhere yet? I want to see how badly these refs screwed up. (Rooting for Iowa I get the opportunity to see plenty of games done in by refs)
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: GenHoth
Is the play up anywhere yet? I want to see how badly these refs screwed up. (Rooting for Iowa I get the opportunity to see plenty of games done in by refs)

http://www.nfl.com

goto the gamecenter for the SD/Pitt game. They'll have a highlights video up.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: poncherelli2
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Second game the Chargers lost this year directly because of a bad ref call. They aren't paying the refs enough.

Not really. It kept the Steelers from covering the spread though.

it was 13-1 penalty differential... how did the refs screw SD in any way?

Edit: nm

The differential is a different discussion. We're only talking about the last play of the game.
 

akshatp

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Refs cost me my weekly pick em pool by taking that Pitt TD away. $375 and bragging rights for winning a 2nd week in a row down the tubes.

garbage.
 

Capt Caveman

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Edwards sucks! And whoever called that empty backfield pass play on 3 and 1 on the Buffalo 5 yard line should be fired.
 

dbk

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HAHAH he came out of nowhere to intercept that!
edit: did it hit the ground!?!??!
 

BALIstik916

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Originally posted by: dbk
HAHAH he came out of nowhere to intercept that!
edit: did it hit the ground!?!??!

yup clearly from the reverse angle the nose of the ball hits the ground
 

darrontrask

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Originally posted by: DomS
I know every year we say the refs are awful, but this year they are taking it to another level..unbelievable.

just watching the last 2 Bills games it is really apparent
 
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