*OFFICIAL Week 15 NFL Thread* NFC South team likely to win Super Bowl

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TheVrolok

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And, he almost had a butt fumble on that loss of balance. Eagles fan need to understand exactly what believing in Sanchez is going to get you!

I'm no believer. I'm also pretty realistic about Philly. Good team, not great team. Sure I'd like to see them get to the playoffs, but they won't win in the post-season. They've got a good defense, special teams, and offense .. just not often at the same time.
 

Deeko

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And, he almost had a butt fumble on that loss of balance. Eagles fan need to understand exactly what believing in Sanchez is going to get you!

Believing in Sanchez? Let's remember that he's a backup QB. The majority of NFL teams would be lucky to have a backup of his caliber. Do you remember what Weeden looked like for Dallas? Or maybe Brad Johnson for Dallas a couple of years ago? Despite the fact that he threw a game-ending pick while I was typing this message, he's been pretty successful for a backup.
 

tential

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Sanchez: "At least when I was losing in Tom Brady's division I had an excuse..."
 

Mojoed

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Solid defense for the Bills. Mojoed was the only one to predict that upset, he knew what was up! :thumbsup:

We all get lucky once in awhile.

The Bills are just beastly on Defense and it just seemed to me they would "want" this game more than Greenbay.
 

smackababy

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Believing in Sanchez? Let's remember that he's a backup QB. The majority of NFL teams would be lucky to have a backup of his caliber. Do you remember what Weeden looked like for Dallas? Or maybe Brad Johnson for Dallas a couple of years ago? Despite the fact that he threw a game-ending pick while I was typing this message, he's been pretty successful for a backup.

Sanchez's success is a product of Chip Kelly's system IMO. Foles wasn't magic this season either, but Philly was able to stay in games. Dallas' system isn't as easily changed over to another QB. Romo carries a lot of responsibility of that offense and nobody can just be plopped in; similar to how PFM was in Indy. Him missing a season devastated that team.

Sanchez does well, when he doesn't make mistakes. But, how often does a string of mistake free football from him last?
 

Retro Rob

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Vikings played very good, Detroit couldn't do anything on offence all day

Vikings didn't play very good really. After they scored their second TD, they were shut out from about halfway through the second quarter on out, and had a FG blocked, not to mention two terrible picks by Teddy B.

Our defense showed up (again) and pulled our butts out of the fire. The Vikings D, however, played well, and Teddy B looked worlds better as compared to the first we played them. But overall, you cannot score 14 points by the second quarter, get shut out, throw back-to-back picks, have an 26 yard FG blocked (which was the game-loser for them ultimately) lose the game while in the same breath saying "Vikings played very good".

No, they didn't overall.
 

dank69

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It is the play calling not really helping Kaep out. I don't think he is the best QB, but them not playing to his strengths is really hurting them. Gore and Hyde being injured really didn't do them any favors.


...
After watching Kaep throw the ball out of bounds on 4th down I'm beginning to fear he doesn't have the mental capacity to be an elite QB... :'( Such a waste of talent if he can't vastly improve his situational awareness.
 

Retro Rob

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After watching Kaep throw the ball out of bounds on 4th down I'm beginning to fear he doesn't have the mental capacity to be an elite QB... :'( Such a waste of talent if he can't vastly improve his situational awareness.

I've been saying that about Kaep for a while now, wondering why SF hitched their future to that guy. The Option I think, has been figured out and isn't really affective anymore, and I'm really loving see him implode right in the face of the Niners.

Sure, I'd say the defense is probably why they're done as of yesterday, but I will say that the terrible roughing call on them was probably the worst call this season -- it was costly.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Observations from yesterday:

1. Seattle is the best team in the NFL and second place may not be close.
2. Kaepernick is not NFL starting material for a championship-caliber team. SF needs to move on.
3. The Packers likely cost themselves a shot at the SB with that loss to Buffalo.
4. The Colts are done. As it stands now, I think they would lose to either of the current wildcard teams (Pitt and Baltimore). That performance against the Texans yesterday was really, really weak.
5. RGIII had a decent game -- let's see if he finally got a clue or if this was an outlier.
6. Washington should cut Santana Moss for that outburst.
 

zinfamous

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I also don't really get all the hate towards Jim Harbaugh. I can't stand his girly temper tantrums but I think he is a great coach. The 49ers were mediocre at best for YEARS then Harbaugh comes in and they almost win a SB and make it to 2 NFC championship games. One mediocre season in a very tough division and now he's got to go? Such a knee jerk reaction.

It's all completely insane. They tolerated Singleterry for how many utter shit seasons, 4? Not one winning season that I can recall during that time, and now the first season that Harbaugh's team earns a record that Singleterry could only dream of, he is shit-canned.

This organization is a bunch of spoiled douchebags. Hopefully Harbaugh goes to the Redskins. :wub:
 

phreaqe

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I don't think i have ever yelled at my tv more then i did yesterday during the packers game. Just about everything the wrong with the game. 1st the Announcers where terrible. They could not pronounce anyone's name correctly. They made Jim Nantz and Phil Simms seem like the best of all time.
2nd, it seemed that every possible thing that could go wrong for the packers went wrong. When Rodgers made a throw the receivers dropped it, When they were open he would miss the throw. The refs were quite bad in general as well i thought, missing several obvious calls and calling questionable things(both ways, not just against the packers) Even though the defense played decently overall, there were like 10 plays where they had the runner wrapped up for a few yard loss and like 5 players would miss the tackle and the runner would end up gaining like 6 yards.

The craziest thing is that they still almost managed to win the game. If jordy hangs on to that 94 yard td i think they win the game.
 

gorcorps

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Observations from yesterday:

1. Seattle is the best team in the NFL and second place may not be close.
2. Kaepernick is not NFL starting material for a championship-caliber team. SF needs to move on.
3. The Packers likely cost themselves a shot at the SB with that loss to Buffalo.
4. The Colts are done. As it stands now, I think they would lose to either of the current wildcard teams (Pitt and Baltimore). That performance against the Texans yesterday was really, really weak.
5. RGIII had a decent game -- let's see if he finally got a clue or if this was an outlier.
6. Washington should cut Santana Moss for that outburst.

1. Nah, I think NE is best in the NFL right now. Seattle struggled in that 1st half much more than they should given how bad SF has been doing.
 

manimal

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Observations from yesterday:

1. Seattle is the best team in the NFL and second place may not be close.
2. Kaepernick is not NFL starting material for a championship-caliber team. SF needs to move on.
3. The Packers likely cost themselves a shot at the SB with that loss to Buffalo.
4. The Colts are done. As it stands now, I think they would lose to either of the current wildcard teams (Pitt and Baltimore). That performance against the Texans yesterday was really, really weak.
5. RGIII had a decent game -- let's see if he finally got a clue or if this was an outlier.
6. Washington should cut Santana Moss for that outburst.

spot on mate!


Buffalo's defensive line had their way with the pack didnt they? Couldnt watch that game but will watch it when NFL network does the 30 min game summaries later this week. Again an elite OL and DL will get you far in this league. The packers arent good enough on OL to win it all.
 

dainthomas

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Vikings didn't play very good really. After they scored their second TD, they were shut out from about halfway through the second quarter on out, and had a FG blocked, not to mention two terrible picks by Teddy B.

Our defense showed up (again) and pulled our butts out of the fire. The Vikings D, however, played well, and Teddy B looked worlds better as compared to the first we played them. But overall, you cannot score 14 points by the second quarter, get shut out, throw back-to-back picks, have an 26 yard FG blocked (which was the game-loser for them ultimately) lose the game while in the same breath saying "Vikings played very good".

No, they didn't overall.

I think the point was they're playing better now than they were early on. Bridgewater is looking very solid for a rookie, and I think he'll get much better next season. The Vikes really need to consider building around him.

And even great teams get FG's blocked. Just one of those things that happens. They make that, they could have easily won and would be sitting at .500.
 

IndyColtsFan

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1. Nah, I think NE is best in the NFL right now. Seattle struggled in that 1st half much more than they should given how bad SF has been doing.

Anything is possible, but if they played 10 times, I believe Seattle would beat New England 7 times.
 

dainthomas

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It's all completely insane. They tolerated Singleterry for how many utter shit seasons, 4? Not one winning season that I can recall during that time, and now the first season that Harbaugh's team earns a record that Singleterry could only dream of, he is shit-canned.

This organization is a bunch of spoiled douchebags. Hopefully Harbaugh goes to the Redskins. :wub:

I think Harbaugh is a pompous loud-mouth d-bag, but getting rid of him would be idiotic given the way he's turned them around. On a selfish note, having a rival like that has been great for the Hawks.

The Niners need to con some other team into taking Kaepernick.
 

phreaqe

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spot on mate!


Buffalo's defensive line had their way with the pack didnt they? Couldnt watch that game but will watch it when NFL network does the 30 min game summaries later this week. Again an elite OL and DL will get you far in this league. The packers arent good enough on OL to win it all.

I would actually disagree with the this. Buffalos line was not the facter that won them the game. Rodgers was just plain off, and so were the receivers. Normally i give credit to the defense for doing that to the offense, but if you watched the game, there were lots of throws where Rodgers just plain missed the throw or the receivers drop balls that hit them in the chest. They had 13 drops on the year before the game and had 7 in the game. You can't credit the defense for that, because the offense executed the play as designed. Take away a couple of those and packers win the game. I can credit the DB's though because they had great coverage most of the game and had several near int's on top of the 2 they did get.
 

Captante

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Anything is possible, but if they played 10 times, I believe Seattle would beat New England 7 times.


Seattle does look strong. I think they have a decent shot at being the first repeat-champs since NE in the '03-'04 seasons if they can stay healthy.

And as well as the Pats have been playing I'm still not a believer. (although if they lock down home-field they'll be a tough out)


Edit: And if I'm not mistaken the Packers are now 0-5 in Buffalo & overall trail head to head 7-4?
 
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MetalMat

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Observations from yesterday:

1. Seattle is the best team in the NFL and second place may not be close.
2. Kaepernick is not NFL starting material for a championship-caliber team. SF needs to move on.
3. The Packers likely cost themselves a shot at the SB with that loss to Buffalo.
4. The Colts are done. As it stands now, I think they would lose to either of the current wildcard teams (Pitt and Baltimore). That performance against the Texans yesterday was really, really weak.
5. RGIII had a decent game -- let's see if he finally got a clue or if this was an outlier.
6. Washington should cut Santana Moss for that outburst.

1. What about the Patriots?
2. I sort of agree but move on to who? BTW: Jocksniffer Ron Jaworski should be black balled for claiming on air that Kaepernick was the best QB ever a couple years ago, that dude is a hack.
3. Packers are unreal at home and suspect on the road, nothing new
4. Indy is better than the Ravens & Steelers imo. However if the Patriots can get the #1 seed I don't see how any other AFC team has a remote shot of getting to the SB, The Pats are a buzzsaw at home.
5. Either RG3 or Jay Gruden is gone next season
6. Moss should have been cut years ago


If the Cardinals can make it to the SB led by Ryan Lindley, a QB I have hated on for years and still think stinks, I will be flabbergasted and Arizona should build a statue of Bruce Arians in front of the stadium.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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1. What about the Patriots?

Seattle is much better IMO.

2. I sort of agree but move on to who? BTW: Jocksniffer Ron Jaworski should be black balled for claiming on air that Kaepernick was the best QB ever a couple years ago, that dude is a hack.
They need to look to the draft. They're stuck with Krappernick for now.

3. Packers are unreal at home and suspect on the road, nothing new
4. Indy is better than the Ravens & Steelers imo. However if the Patriots can get the #1 seed I don't see how any other AFC team has a remote shot of getting to the SB, The Pats are a buzzsaw at home.
The Colts are not a good team. They did beat the Ravens earlier but were steamrolled by the Steelers. They looked bad against a Texans team without Andre Johnson and Ryan Fitzpatrick. They'll finish 11-5 by losing to Dallas and beating Tennessee.

5. Either RG3 or Jay Gruden is gone next season
6. Moss should have been cut years ago
It will be Gruden and I believe that's his plan. Think about it -- as coach, he wanted to be the one to make the call on who starts. So he probably figured that he was in a win-win situation -- if he put his foot down and Snyder sided with him, he could work on putting his own team together. If Snyder went against him and canned him, he is still going to be paid and no one will hold his Redskins gig against him. There really isn't much of a way for Gruden to lose in this situation.

If the Cardinals can make it to the SB led by Ryan Lindley, a QB I have hated on for years and still think stinks, I will be flabbergasted and Arizona should build a statue of Bruce Arians in front of the stadium.
The Cardinals are done, stick a fork in them. Arians still deserves coach of the year, however.
 

Retro Rob

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I think the point was they're playing better now than they were early on. Bridgewater is looking very solid for a rookie, and I think he'll get much better next season. The Vikes really need to consider building around him.

Yea, I agree that they are playing well as of late, and if you read what I said, I gave them props for playing well on D and how Teddy B has progressed since we last played them, and he was referring to yesterday's game...they simply didn't play very good at all, and neither did the Lions.

It was an ugly game with all the missed tackles by Detroit and huge 3rd downs we allowed Teddy B and boys convert on us.

And even great teams get FG's blocked.

But that turned out to be the game-loser for them. Had they made it, then they would have went up by 4, forcing us to score a TD to win. Consequently, we made a FG, went up by 2, and ended up winning by that margin
 

Retro Rob

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Oh, and thanks Buffalo -- Gym Shorts actually did something to help the Lions for a change.
 
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