*OFFICIAL Week 16 NFL Thread* Saturday Games!

[cubby1223]

So you dont see him pulling away from the guy who had his hand on his uniform neck? Look at the 70 players hand on his uniform, and how Suh's body leans back as the hand is released from his uniform.
The video I'm looking at is here. Around the 40 second mark.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...aaron-rodgers-twice-on-purpose-002410086.html

Also notice how the GB blocker has let go of the jersey, Suh gains his composure, pauses with both feet on the ground, then lifts his right leg to place all his weight onto Rodgers. It's a filthy move and if I were king, he absolutely would be suspended for a playoff game. There has to be actual incentive for the team to take corrective action, and nothing short of forcing the team to lose him for a playoff game has been effective motivation. There is absolutely nothing inside of Suh's head telling him "I shouldn't step on another person's leg."

There are rules in the nfl, and he continues to show he doesn't care about them, and the league continues to show they don't care about enforcing their rules.

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/12/7/7348937/ndamukong-suh-josh-mccown-hit-lions-buccaneers
"I shouldn't give another player who has removed himself from the play a forearm to the helmet at full running speed."

Every other player in the league is capable of understanding and implementing self-restraint while on the field.

 

[KMFJD]

Who cares about the opinion of Mike Pereira? It is as clear as day it was intentional. Especially when he pauses with every pound of his weight pushing down on his cleats digging into Rodger's ankle. Suh is in complete control of his balance when he decided to lift his right foot off the ground and place the entire force of his body onto Rodger's ankle.

I think it is definitely worth a fine but not a suspension

 

[positivedoppler]

I think it is definitely worth a fine but not a suspension

Given his past history of how he likes to go out and purposely try to inflict injury on people, he should be booted out of the nfl. He can go join UFC where animals like him belong

 

[herrjimbo]

Given his past history of how he likes to go out and purposely try to inflict injury on people, he should be booted out of the nfl. He can go join UFC where animals like him belong

I concur. If Detroit had any sense of fair play, they would boot Suh from their roster. After that, let the NFL deal with him.

 

[cubby1223]

I think it is definitely worth a fine but not a suspension

Suh is playing on a $65,000,000 contract. Fines are meaningless. A $10k fine to him is like a $10 fine to you or I. Completely meaningless. This has been demonstrated time and time again in the past to not alter his behavior. Nothing short of benching him for a crucial game has been effective in stopping the destructive acts he puts on game after game after game. I don't know, I guess I shouldn't care about all the concussions he has inflicted on other players. They chose to sign their contracts and chose to take those risks in exchange for a shit-ton of cash. Who am I to comment?

Did he have a strategy planned to position himself to stand on Rodgers' bum ankle during the game? No.
Did he take advantage of an opportunity that just happened to present itself to him?

 

[Retro Rob]

Well, the biggest story from the Packers game wasn't the Suh step on Rogers, but how a one-legged QB thrashed our secondary and wasn't hit not even once I believe, after returning to the game.

Now we have to deal with Dallas and Romo, who isn't as good as Rogers and lost all 4 of their games at home, in Dallas next week.

Two things I'm optimistic about:

A weird stat I heard last night is that Stafford is undefeated against Romo, but I don't really know how much that matters, and secondly, we've had success against Dallas overall with Stafford, even that circus of a game last year in Detroit.

Stafford's going home to Texas, so he should be motivated enough to play well in front of a crowd that will be rooting for him in some fashion.

 

[vi edit]

Stafford's going home to Texas, so he should be motivated enough to play well in front of a crowd that will be rooting for him in some fashion.

Stat of the day yesterday...Stafford is 0-15 on road games against teams with winning records.

 

[Retro Rob]

Stat of the day yesterday...Stafford is 0-15 on road games against teams with winning records.

Yeah, pathetic...especially for a number 1 pick and with the weapons he's had over the course of his career.

I think he's 2-30 for his career against teams with a winning record. It's hard for me to even say that without wanting to puke.

 

[tmc]

why the fu(k is ESPN getting a playoff game? nonsense!

 

[smackababy]

Well, the biggest story from the Packers game wasn't the Suh step on Rogers, but how a one-legged QB thrashed our secondary and wasn't hit not even once I believe, after returning to the game.

Now we have to deal with Dallas and Romo, who isn't as good as Rogers and lost all 4 of their games at home, in Dallas next week.

Two things I'm optimistic about:

A weird stat I heard last night is that Stafford is undefeated against Romo, but I don't really know how much that matters, and secondly, we've had success against Dallas overall with Stafford, even that circus of a game last year in Detroit.

Stafford's going home to Texas, so he should be motivated enough to play well in front of a crowd that will be rooting for him in some fashion.

Besides Stafford, I think the D is going to struggle against Dallas' line. They won't get pressure and Romo will shred them similar to Rodgers. Especially, if Suh has to sit out.


And, in other news, Smith gone in Atlanta and Ryan + Idzik gone in NY.

 

[SunnyD]

I think it is definitely worth a fine but not a suspension

But iirc the NFL at this point will be handing out suspensions based on his history. Which he rightfully deserves.

 

[Retro Rob]

Besides Stafford, I think the D is going to struggle against Dallas' line. They won't get pressure and Romo will shred them similar to Rodgers. Especially, if Suh has to sit out.


And, in other news, Smith gone in Atlanta and Ryan + Idzik gone in NY.

We have no one who can cover Witten and Bryant. If we hope to win, we're gonna need to score 40+.

 

[smackababy]

why the fu(k is ESPN getting a playoff game? nonsense!

Because, most of the first world can afford basic cable, which includes ESPN.

 

[smackababy]

Looks like Trestman and Emery both fired from the Bears as well.

I just can't see the firing after a single season. It makes little sense. It takes more than one offseason to get a team into capable form. I guess it was Trestman's second season though, so whatever.

 

[Retro Rob]

Looks like Trestman and Emery both fired from the Bears as well.

I just can't see the firing after a single season. It makes little sense. It takes more than one offseason to get a team into capable form.

Rex Ryan and Mike Smith are already gone. Massacre Monday kicks off with a bang!

 

[Jimzz]

Trestman has been there 2 years. That and he was critical of players to the media. That is not something you do as a head coach, at least the way he did it.

 

[Retro Rob]

Looks like Trestman and Emery both fired from the Bears as well.

I just can't see the firing after a single season. It makes little sense. It takes more than one offseason to get a team into capable form. I guess it was Trestman's second season though, so whatever.

Yep, they're both done...well, at least the GM for sure:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/12091465/chicago-bears-fire-phil-emery

 

[manimal]

Looks like Trestman and Emery both fired from the Bears as well.

I just can't see the firing after a single season. It makes little sense. It takes more than one offseason to get a team into capable form.

while I may not have liked emery all that much he turned over the roster fairly well save for his big price spends. Trestman was considered a fucking genious last year... One bad season is a referendum? Stupid unless get a BIG name like Wolf or Polian to hire a replacement. Its stupid to just use another executive search firm. Those firms are a waste of money.


PLEASE HIRE RON WOLF or Holmgren or we will be in line for first pick next year.



If cutler isnt gone after this year I may not watch next year. I have been a die hard fan trough Dick Jauron years and worse in the 70s. The media did this. GDI


Trestman is a good coach who had players that didnt want to be there. All the old lovie guys have stabbed him in the back including Briggs Gould and a bunch of other guys. Tillman at least kept his mouth shut for the most part.


Fucking Briggs calls phantom audibles to fucking coverages that DONT EXIST and he falls asleep during meetings. WTF he should have gotten fired last year for what he did to Conte.


Conte will end up going elsewhere just so he can have a fresh start. He got shit thrown at him this year and had shit said to his family when he was out the week he had a fucking interception. Seriously fuck Chicago media.


Team should have replaced the DC with a big name and shipped of Cutler for a second or third and shipped Marshall and any remaining sandbagging lovie shitheads and started fresh. MCcaskeys are an embarrasment and Papa Bear is rolling over in his grave that a cross eyed accountant and sandbagging QB run the fucking town.


Seriously Cutlet better be gone next year. OMG if hes back I dont know what a majority of bears fans will do.



Trestman is gonna get hired by lovie to coach Mccown for a year now just watch...



WOLF OR HOMGREN AS Chief bear please!! no more scurbs.

 

[manimal]

Trestman has been there 2 years. That and he was critical of players to the media. That is not something you do as a head coach, at least the way he did it.

bullshit... he was getting called for bad coaching when his players werent responding to the coaching because they dont fucking care. Everyone bought into the system save for Cutlet and briggs and a few silent cancers. Trestman came out and said players didnt do what they were supposed to do.

Bunch of damn nancies...... Ditka used to question peoples manhood to their faces. They either played or were gone. Team should have benched Cutlet MUCH sooner and should have benched Briggs in the preseason.


Trestman is a quality guy who was saddled with a roster of guys from the previous regime. He was adamant about NOT signing Cutler and the GM and team went over his head. SO much fail from the org its not Trestmans fault.


Team should have never entered the season with the same DC either. That was on Emery. Cutler contract. Emery. Signing Allen? Emery. Keeping Briggs? emery.


Emery was the guy who shit in the well and was walking around pissed that he had shit in his glass..



We all knew the defence was gonna be bad. The line got hurt all year and Zone blocking requriers cohesion. That line plays together all year bears are in playoffs.


While trestman made some mistakes it was key players sandbagging that cost them wins.


Can you honestly say that Cutler didnt sabotage this season?

 

[smackababy]

I actually think Trestman will get an OC job somewhere and do well.

 

[manimal]

I actually think Trestman will get an OC job somewhere and do well.

me to thats the sad part. Could actually see him landing in Niners land since they run his system.

 

[manimal]

Hub arkush can go F himself as well.

 

[vi edit]

Not sure I like the Trestman firing. So many problems on that team, least of which is coaching IMHO. Defense was in shambles. So many old players, no leaders, and a leaky secondary. Offensive line was improved...but still bad. And then the 126 million dollar problem named Cutler. Bleh.

I think Marshall was off his meds the 2nd half of the season and we saw real Brandon Marhsall with his twitter rants of getting in the ring with Detroit fans. Trestman was obviously frustrated with the situation and the lack of energy his players were putting forward and called them out on it.

Most of the damage done is irreparable. He lost that locker room and wasn't going to get it back. There wasn't much other choice.

 

[manimal]

Not sure I like the Trestman firing. So many problems on that team, least of which is coaching IMHO. Defense was in shambles. So many old players, no leaders, and a leaky secondary. Offensive line was improved...but still bad. And then the 126 million dollar problem named Cutler. Bleh.

I think Marshall was off his meds the 2nd half of the season and we saw real Brandon Marhsall with his twitter rants of getting in the ring with Detroit fans. Trestman was obviously frustrated with the situation and the lack of energy his players were putting forward and called them out on it.

Most of the damage done is irreparable. He lost that locker room and wasn't going to get it back. There wasn't much other choice.

how is is that most of us fans can see this but cross eyed Mccaskey cant?

 

[smackababy]

Not sure I like the Trestman firing. So many problems on that team, least of which is coaching IMHO. Defense was in shambles. So many old players, no leaders, and a leaky secondary. Offensive line was improved...but still bad. And then the 126 million dollar problem named Cutler. Bleh.

I think Marshall was off his meds the 2nd half of the season and we saw real Brandon Marhsall with his twitter rants of getting in the ring with Detroit fans. Trestman was obviously frustrated with the situation and the lack of energy his players were putting forward and called them out on it.

Most of the damage done is irreparable. He lost that locker room and wasn't going to get it back. There wasn't much other choice.

While, I think Trestman didn't do a terrible job, considering Cutlet's play, there has to be someone taking responsibility for the season. They can't exactly fire Cutler (although, I think they are going to get rid of him some way), Trestman showed he couldn't take over and help right the ship. He might have been effective at steering it when things were going good, but once it started sinking, he kind of just sat by. Cutler should have been benched way before it happened. They did better last year without him.