Official World Cup Soccer Thread

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sjwaste

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I thought Messi was already a fairly established international player? He looked good in limited time in the 06 cup. 4 years later, he's pretty dominant. As an Italian-American, first generation at least, it's really hard to say -- but he might be better than Pirlo, maybe even Pirlo in his prime.
 

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I thought Messi was already a fairly established international player? He looked good in limited time in the 06 cup. 4 years later, he's pretty dominant. As an Italian-American, first generation at least, it's really hard to say -- but he might be better than Pirlo, maybe even Pirlo in his prime.

Established as pro player, not as part of the national selection. I guess I should not have used the world international.
 

sjwaste

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Established as pro player, not as part of the national selection. I guess I should not have used the world international.

Nah, I get your point. You're right - basically what I said was that he looked like an up and coming star. You're saying he's establishing himself. We don't disagree, his progression has been incredible.
 

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I must have had a different seat in watching the nigeria red card unfold. The greek player clearly used the ball to push the nigerian away. The nigerian player should not have reacted with a push and a half kick (that did not even come close to connecting) but I guess the rules are clear in such a situation. I agree with the commentator though, I wish the ref would show patience in such a situation and realize it really was not that bad and is somewhat of a quick decision/reaction.
 

sjwaste

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I must have had a different seat in watching the nigeria red card unfold. The greek player clearly used the ball to push the nigerian away. The nigerian player should not have reacted with a push and a half kick (that did not even come close to connecting) but I guess the rules are clear in such a situation. I agree with the commentator though, I wish the ref would show patience in such a situation and realize it really was not that bad and is somewhat of a quick decision/reaction.

International soccer has a lower threshold for that sort of thing than most American sports do. There's a lot of emphasis on sportsmanship (irony: diving). Basically, you just can't react violently to another guy.

Look at Zidane getting sent off in the '06 final. He ended his career on a bonehead (ha!) move. If they're going to send a guy off in his last international match, the most important match of the most important tournament, every other player has to be on notice.

I fully support it, just like I did when Francesco Totti was tossed in Euro 2004 for spitting on a guy.
 

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International soccer has a lower threshold for that sort of thing than most American sports do. There's a lot of emphasis on sportsmanship (irony: diving). Basically, you just can't react violently to another guy.

Look at Zidane getting sent off in the '06 final. He ended his career on a bonehead (ha!) move. If they're going to send a guy off in his last international match, the most important match of the most important tournament, every other player has to be on notice.

I fully support it, just like I did when Francesco Totti was tossed in Euro 2004 for spitting on a guy.

Yes it does have a lower threshold and lol at the irony of diving. However, Zidane's boneheaded moved is on a whole different level here. Moreover, he reacted to verbal taunting rather than a push.
 

sjwaste

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Yes it does have a lower threshold and lol at the irony of diving. However, Zidane's boneheaded moved is on a whole different level here. Moreover, he reacted to verbal taunting rather than a push.

I must have missed something - did the Greek player not also draw a card? I would've thrown him out for pushing a guy too. On the pitch in a world cup soccer match is not the time or place to start doing shit like that.

And the hockey fan in me cries a little.
 

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I find it refreshing that no punk ass bitch behavior is tolerated at the WC.

We're too jaded here in America. The inmates run the asylum.
Mostly I don't mind. There's a lot of intensity in American sports.

But I definitely respect FIFA's right to demand games be called very tight behavior-wise.
After all - the WC is their baby.
 

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Even with 10 men, I think Nigeria should have won today.

You're out of your mind. Greece had over 10 shots on goal while Nigeria had 3.

It could have easily been 4-1. I give the Nigerian goalkeeper a lot of credit, he had a shitload of saves compared to that stupid mistake the Greek goalkeeper made.

27(11) Shots (on Goal) 10(3)
 
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JHoNNy1OoO

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HOLY HELL! 5 Yellow cards in this Serbia v Germany game by the 32nd minute and now in the 36th minute Klose get's his second yellow card and now Germany is down a man for the rest of the game.

Edit: Just as I post this Serbia goes ahead and scores the first goal. 1-0 Serbia
 

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Gah, just woke up. Sounds like it's been a mess so far.

KT
 

sjwaste

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I'm working from home, just turned the game on in the background to see the halftime highlights. Wow on the red card. The analysts didn't seem to disagree with it, though, said the ref has been calling an even game. I really wonder what Klose said to get the red card.
 

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he did say anything he got 2 yellows, both were normal run of the mill tackles that would have simply been a free kick in any other game.

fuck in the EPL there wouldn't have been a single card yet in this game
 

sjwaste

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Oh, ok, the replay made it look like the red came out because he was arguing. I missed the first card.
 

sjwaste

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I'll give the ref this - he's consistent. He is calling every single late tackle a yellow. If anything, that should open things up and give both teams more opportunities to move the ball if they can't just keep clipping each other to halt play.

Probably a little tighter than you'd want to see a game called, considering some guys can get carded out of the important 3rd group match for relatively minor fouls.
 

sjwaste

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There's a formula for taking PKs. You saw it w/ Blanco yesterday. Low, hard, and into the corner. #3 is very important. Must go to the side netting.

Whoops.
 
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