Official World Cup Soccer Thread

[Gooberlx2]

The reason that I think he shouldn't be off-sides in that situation is that he already retrieved the ball, on the advance, in an on-sides position.

He establishes onsides in the face of the Mexican defense--he essentially beats the other team in a legitimate fashion. It is now on the Mexican defense to stop him--for the goal keeper to handle that ball, which did not happen. I can't rationalize how that Argentinian player is suddenly required to abandon his legally-established advantage in reaction to Mexico making such a huge mistake in defense. Besides the fact that the Argentinian player suddenly has to make that decision to jump back on sides within the 3 seconds that that play happened (or, I suppose he is expected not to touch the ball?)...it just doesn't make sense to me.

I guess I can understand having been confused not completely knowing the rule...but that's the rule. I guess I think it works fine. Yeah, he beat the defense but got stuck by the keeper. He shoulda hauled back onsides or taken his ass out of play. Defense can always use the rule as strategy to trap the offense, as they should (not that it mattered in this instance anyway). Tevez's past accomplishment of beating the defense bears no reward for the present moment of play.

I assumed that it was like off sides in hockey, which I think would make more sense for soccer. (though hockey is puck first, and always first; vs soccer = from the moment of kick, the attacker can pass defenders before the ball passes them, correct?)

Yes.

 

[zinfamous]

I guess I can understand having been confused not completely knowing the rule...but that's the rule. I guess I think it works fine. Yeah, he beat the defense but got stuck by the keeper. He shoulda hauled back onsides or taken his ass out of play. Defense can always use the rule as strategy to trap the offense, as they should (not that it mattered in this instance anyway). Tevez's past accomplishment of beating the defense bears no reward for the present moment of play.
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but in this situation, the concept of past/present is a matter of 2-4 seconds?

:hmm:

 

[Gooberlx2]

but in this situation, the concept of past/present is a matter of 2-4 seconds?

:hmm:

I know. Sometimes ya get fucked. Shoulda just scored that goal in the first place. ^_^

 

[KMFJD]

Maicon will be the difference, the Dutch have nothing to counter him, maybe move Dejong to his side...he will be the key

 

[sdifox]

wrong thread...

 

[sdifox]

wrong thread...

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

imagine how many it'd be if our team was badass and more marketing was done for the sport

Probably like every other country in the world, where the whole country stops to watch the game and people even skip work lol

 

[iCyborg]

Probably like every other country in the world, where the whole country stops to watch the game and people even skip work lol

It's not the same everywhere, IMO South Americans are crazier than others. A case in point:
a bunch of us wanted to watch a EURO cup qualifier game of our home country, and because it wasn't covered on any regular channel in Canada we found some sports bar that ordered it from Setanta (and charged $20 for entrance...). There were about 40-50 people watching, 90% guys, dressed in jeans etc, just watching the game and having a few beers. Shortly after the game, there was another game, S. American quals, one of the teams was Chile, don't know the other except that it wasn't Brazil or Argentina. And then Chileans entered the bar and not only did they heavily outnumber us, but there were women, children, young, old, everything, and like 80% were dressed in national team outfits carying flags and scarves being quite loud too. I remember we were like "daaamn, soccer is teh serious business for these people".

 

[GasX]

Probably like every other country in the world, where the whole country stops to watch the game and people even skip work lol

I think it was 1998. I was flying out of London when England were playing. I was so upset that I was going to miss the game. Mysteriously there was a flight delay and I watched the game in the lounge. Game over - flight started boarding.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

BWAHAHA nice save Japan.

 

[sdifox]

Looks like Paraguay will win this one.

 

[sdifox]

holly shit, Matui almost got one in. Crossbar-pwned!

 

[sdifox]

Santa Cruz fail...

 

[sdifox]

humm, tide seems to be turning

 

[KMFJD]

Relevant for today...

 

[sdifox]

wasted Paraguay chance

 

[sdifox]

lol Goalie took down his own man. Knee to chin! That is a Muai Tai move!

 

[sdifox]

wtf is Paraguay doing?

 

[sdifox]

ahahha, the defender paid the goalie back!

 

[sdifox]

holly shit the Japanese player really decked the Paraguay goalie.

 

[Gooberlx2]

terrible call ref, atleast it didn't change the game.

 

[Ricemarine]

lol... the ref really likes giving yellow cards for accidental handballs.

 

[sdifox]

this will probably end in penalties.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Whooo, good place to be, keeper. I would love to see Japan make it to the quarters.

 

[sdifox]

Whooo, good place to be, keeper. I would love to see Japan make it to the quarters.

you just jinxed them :awe: