Originally posted by: Jopopsy
From what I understand, there should be little to know differance in run quality between the first runs and a few weeks out. There MAY be a marginal differance between a first run and a near last run --- JasperHunter pls. tell me if I'm off base here.
As for the PSU, if you get a 175 I think that's actually a good thing. The 175 has 25 more watts to play with, so it won't be working anywhere near its full capacity on a Jasper 360. While I'm sure the 150 watt won't be working at full capacity either, it stands to reason that the 175 brick will work 'less'. I wouldn't sweat the power supply.
We will definitely get one eventually, although I've been told that if I can't sell the old one, and we end up with two, that I'm in big trouble.Originally posted by: Darrell
I want to thank everyone for the wealth of information provided. Without everyone here , I wouldn't have known what to look for on my hunt. JapserHunter and myself will get ours...it is just taking longer.
Oh yeah, and to JasperHunter, thank GOD you started the thread over here!! It was tiring to see all the kids hiding behind their keyboard and posting crap on 8bit's blog
Originally posted by: Pikaraph
Yesterday I talked about Jasper with a microsoft insider an a french board, he said Jasper arcades were already in Europe, but we would have to wait till january/february for jasper elites.
Originally posted by: JasperHunter
Originally posted by: Jopopsy
From what I understand, there should be little to know differance in run quality between the first runs and a few weeks out. There MAY be a marginal differance between a first run and a near last run --- JasperHunter pls. tell me if I'm off base here.
As for the PSU, if you get a 175 I think that's actually a good thing. The 175 has 25 more watts to play with, so it won't be working anywhere near its full capacity on a Jasper 360. While I'm sure the 150 watt won't be working at full capacity either, it stands to reason that the 175 brick will work 'less'. I wouldn't sweat the power supply.
Manufacturing always improves over time, but AFAIK, there is little, if any, difference in reliability between the first Falcons and the last ones.
I don't think having a larger PSU than necessary will really matter. It's actually oversized a bit already.
Originally posted by: Nzwayz
Originally posted by: JasperHunter
Originally posted by: Jopopsy
From what I understand, there should be little to know differance in run quality between the first runs and a few weeks out. There MAY be a marginal differance between a first run and a near last run --- JasperHunter pls. tell me if I'm off base here.
As for the PSU, if you get a 175 I think that's actually a good thing. The 175 has 25 more watts to play with, so it won't be working anywhere near its full capacity on a Jasper 360. While I'm sure the 150 watt won't be working at full capacity either, it stands to reason that the 175 brick will work 'less'. I wouldn't sweat the power supply.
Manufacturing always improves over time, but AFAIK, there is little, if any, difference in reliability between the first Falcons and the last ones.
I don't think having a larger PSU than necessary will really matter. It's actually oversized a bit already.
Using a little electronic math I remember from my classes 18 year ago....
12V x 12.1A = 145.2W
12V x 14.2A = 170.4W
So the Jasper requires a minimum of 145.2W to run at full capacity. With the inclusion of a 150 or 175W power brick, there will be no problems drawing the power. In fact, having a 175W power brick will actually be better since it doesn't have to work that hard to provide 145W of power...meaning in theory, it should have a cooler (to the touch) power supply then a 150W power supply.
Anyone with a IR thermometer can validate this?
Originally posted by: Nzwayz
Originally posted by: JasperHunter
Originally posted by: Jopopsy
From what I understand, there should be little to know differance in run quality between the first runs and a few weeks out. There MAY be a marginal differance between a first run and a near last run --- JasperHunter pls. tell me if I'm off base here.
As for the PSU, if you get a 175 I think that's actually a good thing. The 175 has 25 more watts to play with, so it won't be working anywhere near its full capacity on a Jasper 360. While I'm sure the 150 watt won't be working at full capacity either, it stands to reason that the 175 brick will work 'less'. I wouldn't sweat the power supply.
Manufacturing always improves over time, but AFAIK, there is little, if any, difference in reliability between the first Falcons and the last ones.
I don't think having a larger PSU than necessary will really matter. It's actually oversized a bit already.
Using a little electronic math I remember from my classes 18 year ago....
12V x 12.1A = 145.2W
12V x 14.2A = 170.4W
So the Jasper requires a minimum of 145.2W to run at full capacity. With the inclusion of a 150 or 175W power brick, there will be no problems drawing the power. In fact, having a 175W power brick will actually be better since it doesn't have to work that hard to provide 145W of power...meaning in theory, it should have a cooler (to the touch) power supply then a 150W power supply.
Anyone with a IR thermometer can validate this?
Should work fine, although I'm not aware of anyone that has tried it. There would probably not be any benefit though.Originally posted by: DoomsdayVzla
Hi again, just a question here.
Is it OK to usea 203W PSU in a Falcon or even a Jasper? Or you don't recommend it? I'm asking because if I´m lucky enough I´ll get a Jasper soon, but would like to know if my old Zephyr PSU works with Jasper.
Thx,
Doomsday
Great news! Congrats Darrell! You've contributed immensely to the hunt and I'm glad your turn finally came as wellOriginally posted by: Darrell
Well everybody, my Jasper search is over!! Free at last...free at last!!!
I got a Japer Pro Holiday Bundle at the Tri-County BB for those in the Cincinnati area. I think I got the last Pro Jasper on the floor, but they had at least 4 Arcade Jaspers on the floor that I confirmed through the Window.
I got a lot 0843X CSON on the box, but the serial lot is 0840. Manufacture date is 10-30-2008
I haven't done much to it since I've only been home for about 15 minutes. But I do have the following:
1) I turned on the Pro Jasper for the very 1st time without the HD. When I go into the memory settings, there is no additional memory to be found. NXE is not pre-installed.
2) I got a Falcon PSU (175 watt) while the XBOX showed 12.1 A through the window.
3) At the initial setup screen, the kill-a-watt was a solid 85 watts. After the setup was completed, it stayed on a solid 85 watts. Once I installed the HD, the wattage bumped up to 88 watts. After upgrading to NXE, the killa-watt stayed at 88 watts idle at dashboard signed in to XBOX LIVE.
4) The fans in the back are not Delta's....I think. These have no stickers on them so I can't idenify them. BUT, at idle, these fans are quieter than any XBOX I have owned(5)...even the newer lot 0836 & 0837. I am assuming that with a cooler running XBOX, the fans are running at a slower RPM (less noise)
5) Using the flashlight, I can see the capacitors. It's a 4 X 2 setup, using the "golden" capacitors....
I am going to take more in-game measurements, but this will be later. AND, I am gonna open it up to replace the thermal interface material for the GPU & CPU. But this will take a week or two before the stuff arrives. QUESTION.....do you guys need/want me to open it up for any pics? I was hoping by powering on the XBOX without the HD when it started for the 1st time the 256 internal memory would show up...but it didn't. I can take pics.....let me know.....it might take a day or so.....