Originally posted by: gshock888
sorry. i just found that out myself while searching for some 6xx...
there are some great deals for XPS with x800 now...
Unit Price: $565.00
Dimension 8400 Desktop: Pentium 4 Processor 540 with HT Technology (3.20GHz, 800 FSB, 1MB)
Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
1 GB DDR2 SDRAM 533MHz (2 DIMMs)
250 GB EIDE SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
128MB PCI Express ATI Radeon X300 SE
56Kbps Data/Fax Modem
Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit ADVANCED HD Audio with 100dB Perform
16X DVD ROM Drive
16x DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
Thanks for the info. Will have to use it next time. Is there a performance difference betwen the 5xx and 6xx CPUs on the Dells?Originally posted by: gshock888
this may be repost, but to find out 6xx sequence processors
simply filter on DESKTOP for chassis. the 5xx are listed under MINITOWER and the new 8400 6xx processors are listed as DESKTOP.
great way to find those babies....
Originally posted by: Lanyap
Thanks for the info. Will have to use it next time. Is there a performance difference betwen the 5xx and 6xx CPUs on the Dells?Originally posted by: gshock888
this may be repost, but to find out 6xx sequence processors
simply filter on DESKTOP for chassis. the 5xx are listed under MINITOWER and the new 8400 6xx processors are listed as DESKTOP.
great way to find those babies....
Originally posted by: gshock888
friend got a 630 3.0ghz with 250GB, 1GB and x300 for 550. i say the 6xx are only warm now...
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: gshock888
friend got a 630 3.0ghz with 250GB, 1GB and x300 for 550. i say the 6xx are only warm now...
They are coming standard with new 8400's now, so not even warm, IMO. People who buy computers on ebay see Ghz.
Originally posted by: tishoo
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: gshock888
friend got a 630 3.0ghz with 250GB, 1GB and x300 for 550. i say the 6xx are only warm now...
They are coming standard with new 8400's now, so not even warm, IMO. People who buy computers on ebay see Ghz.
Hmm - maybe not worthwhile for reselling (which, incidentally, I confirmed - their ToS prohibits, but they obviously ignore ).
But for personal use, the better motherboard, with more PCI slots (I need at least 2, so 3 is good!), more capable FSB (1066 max, IIRC?) and more L2 cache is certainly worth a slight premium!
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: tishoo ... the better motherboard, with more PCI slots (I need at least 2, so 3 is good!), more capable FSB (1066 max, IIRC?) ...
The 8400 motherboard uses the 925X chipset (800FSB max). The XPS uses a 925XE chipset that can run 1066FSB.
Originally posted by: tishoo
Gotcha, thanks!
As this deal seems dead for now, I'm going to stop posting questions here like a newbie, and move to the technical discussion forum for some reading.
Sorry - to all those who're probably getting the impression the deal has resurfaced
There is only a slight PSU compatibility problem: the case has no cut out for a power switch on the back of the PSU. Otherwise it's 100% ATX 12v compatible. Dell hasn't used funky PSUs in desktops* since the Pentium 3. It's kinda funny how that lives on and on year after year, mostly because of uninformed posts like your's keeping the myth alive.Originally posted by: jpeyton
They are Dell specific in regards to the mounting holes, and PSU compatibility, but in other regards they are OEM Intel motherboards.
Originally posted by: pxc
There is only a slight PSU compatibility problem: the case has no cut out for a power switch on the back of the PSU. Otherwise it's 100% ATX 12v compatible. Dell hasn't used funky PSUs in desktops* since the Pentium 3. It's kinda funny how that lives on and on year after year, mostly because of uninformed posts like your's keeping the myth alive.Originally posted by: jpeyton
They are Dell specific in regards to the mounting holes, and PSU compatibility, but in other regards they are OEM Intel motherboards.
The microtower cases (23x0/2400/4600/4700) can mount microATX boards fine. The 4600/4700 use the same case design, aside from front/side panel changes, as the 23x0 and 2400. I received my 4700 and 8400 a few days ago and I don't see any problem replacing the motherboard in the 4700. The 8400 is much different and it might take extra work to mount a microATX board in it. microATX boards mount with no modification in the 23x0/2400/4600/4700 cases:
http://www.notveryserio.us/pix/2350open1.jpg
http://www.notveryserio.us/pix/2350detail1.jpg
With a careful choice of motherboard, the stock exhaust fan can be used with a passive heatsink for quiet cooling. The pictures above are an Asus motherboard and AthlonXP 2400+ mounted in a 23x0/2400 case. The internals on the 4600/4700 are identical.
*excluding the newer small form factor cases (4700C/GX280 and SX280), which like all SFF cases use a variation of microATX PSUs to fit the particular case.