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I realized something the other day, journalists and cops are basically the same people. They do jobs that are officially praised and commonly derided. They tend to see themselves as defenders of integrity and aggressive pursuers of the truth, but they're actually known for annoying the shit out of people over petty reasons tangentially related to justice. They're known for giving the most attention to individuals at an extreme end of the economic scale. They aren't really paid that well, and few parents would list that career as their first choice for their kids. The public just does not care about any of these individuals until they become involved in something sensational, but then they're a household name for fifteen minutes. The base of a major party overtly distrusts and covertly works against them, especially in certain contexts.

But is the keyboard mightier than the glock?
 

Ruptga

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you paint a broad brush. Although some of your labels certainly fit some of those within these professions, it doesn't define the entire group of each as petty, self-serving, power-hungry narcissists. There are bad apples in any group. I wouldn't call those apples "real cops" or "real journalists," but there is also some truth to needed a bit more transparency and open dialogue within these groups to ferret out such bad actors. I find that journalists are much better at this, however. For journalists, integrity is probably the most essential trait in their industry. The field simply couldn't exist without it, so not only are there plenty of individuals determined to maintain and protect that integrity, there are also laws and practices designed to punish violations of such--and they are very effective.
You might argue that this sort of exists for the police force as well, but obviously the enforcement of such violations is effectively neutered within the precincts most needing an enema.

So I was painting with a broad brush when I equated two large and diverse professions? Yeah, probably.

Regardless of the quality of any individuals in either group, or even the quality of either group as a whole, I was really getting at our perceptions of them. By and large, angry liberals bitch about cops the way that angry conservatives bitch about journalists. "They're just out to get X people and keep them down, they're colluding to enforce their unAmerican agenda", and so on. It's interesting.

But is the keyboard mightier than the glock?
Depends, is it a tactical assault version?
 

norseamd

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So I was painting with a broad brush when I equated two large and diverse professions? Yeah, probably.

Regardless of the quality of any individuals in either group, or even the quality of either group as a whole, I was really getting at our perceptions of them. By and large, angry liberals bitch about cops the way that angry conservatives bitch about journalists. "They're just out to get X people and keep them down, they're colluding to enforce their unAmerican agenda", and so on. It's interesting.

But angry conservatives bitch about the government, poor, Muslims, Mexicans, Chinese, and a whole lot more groups. They hate journalists because stuff comes from journalists that is counter to their sociological partisanal system, Im loathe to even call it dogma or ideology, both of those might imply that they actually believe in their bullshit. Call it for what it is, petty tribalism.
 

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So I was painting with a broad brush when I equated two large and diverse professions? Yeah, probably.

Regardless of the quality of any individuals in either group, or even the quality of either group as a whole, I was really getting at our perceptions of them. By and large, angry liberals bitch about cops the way that angry conservatives bitch about journalists. "They're just out to get X people and keep them down, they're colluding to enforce their unAmerican agenda", and so on. It's interesting.


Depends, is it a tactical assault version?

Yes. It's a mechanical keyboard. Of course you could assault someone with those.
 

norseamd

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I realized something the other day, journalists and cops are basically the same people. They do jobs that are officially praised and commonly derided. They tend to see themselves as defenders of integrity and aggressive pursuers of the truth, but they're actually known for annoying the shit out of people over petty reasons tangentially related to justice. They're known for giving the most attention to individuals at an extreme end of the economic scale. They aren't really paid that well, and few parents would list that career as their first choice for their kids. The public just does not care about any of these individuals until they become involved in something sensational, but then they're a household name for fifteen minutes. The base of a major party overtly distrusts and covertly works against them, especially in certain contexts.

I suppose one might say that both have huge potential for righteousness and good, although in practice both are quite a ways from the cover they are given, and both are vulnerable to corruption and exploitation.
 

Ichinisan

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Why? So he could be tracked down and harrassed? He has a right to say what he wants just like any Dem. You are exactly why we need to MAGA, and keep ignorant cucks from harrassing true Americans.


I already know people will take your post seriously.
 

Ruptga

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Yes. It's a mechanical keyboard. Of course you could assault someone with those.
Well in that case the keyboard wins every time. Put on a Captain America shirt and use the keyboard to absorb their bullets, then bash in their head with it. You can't lose.
 

agent00f

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And Nazis ate sugar. You know, I shouldn't have to explain this, but sharing one attribute with a group doesn't make a person a member. Plus, as a defender of centrism and all, I don't get why you're making such a big deal of it. As a centrist you should be comfortable with the fact that even a blind squirrel will find a few nuts.

I'm simply informing you of what centrism is so that the basis of your rants might be more accurate. For example I doubt you criticize obama for centrist opportunism, eg gay marriage.

How the hell do you go from Sanders to Trump. I'll never get that rationalization.

There are a lot of I(ndependents)INO's who were never going to vote for Sanders when it came down to it pretending they would as political rhetoric.
 

nakedfrog

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My GF's landlady claimed she was originally going to vote for Sanders because "he's such a sweet old man", and is now voting Trump because she just can't vote for Clinton.
 

agent00f

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So I was painting with a broad brush when I equated two large and diverse professions? Yeah, probably.

Regardless of the quality of any individuals in either group, or even the quality of either group as a whole, I was really getting at our perceptions of them. By and large, angry liberals bitch about cops the way that angry conservatives bitch about journalists. "They're just out to get X people and keep them down, they're colluding to enforce their unAmerican agenda", and so on. It's interesting.

So what you're saying is people stereotype groups they don't like. Real insightful.
 

Ruptga

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I'm simply informing you of what centrism is so that the basis of your rants might be more accurate. For example I doubt you criticize obama for centrist opportunism, eg gay marriage.
No, what you're still doing is assuming that I'm yet another ignorant partisan as an excuse to get all hoity toity because this is the internet.

Obama has been a disappointment in many ways, the gay marriage flip flop barely registers by comparison. He has also stood by the NSA and the Patriot Act, and he has embraced the classic Democratic approach to war of "but mom I wasn't touching them, I was just really close and training all these other guys and selling munitions and bombing some stuff but I was totally not touching them", because keeping more than just the letter of campaign promises is apparently too hard.

So in summary, you don't know me, just shut the fuck up already. I'm well aware of what a centrist is, and
A person don't need to be an extremist to be a wise and beautiful woman, it just helps their odds.


So what you're saying is people stereotype groups they don't like. Real insightful.
no u
 

Ruptga

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My GF's landlady claimed she was originally going to vote for Sanders because "he's such a sweet old man", and is now voting Trump because she just can't vote for Clinton.
lol

Oh and frog, you'll be happy to know I've changed my mind about being an asshole. I've decided that I like Johnson's platform well enough that I can support him even if I'm not totally sold on the man himself.
 

agent00f

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No, what you're still doing is assuming that I'm yet another ignorant partisan as an excuse to get all hoity toity because this is the internet.

Obama has been a disappointment in many ways, the gay marriage flip flop barely registers by comparison. He has also stood by the NSA and the Patriot Act, and he has embraced the classic Democratic approach to war of "but mom I wasn't touching them, I was just really close and training all these other guys and selling munitions and bombing some stuff but I was totally not touching them", because keeping more than just the letter of campaign promises is apparently too hard.

So in summary, you don't know me, just shut the fuck up already. I'm well aware of what a centrist is, and

no u

So I assume you were there in 2007 accusing him of the same things, since all signs pointed to a centrist candidate like partnering with Lugar/Coburn which he bragged about to some excess, despite what he might be promising the progressing in addition to what he's promising everyone else. Since you haven't worked it out yet, promising everyone something is what centrists do.

Thus it's pretty evident that you don't know what centrist entails if you're accusing centrists of somewhat defending white welfare. "I don't get why you're making such a big deal of it.", as you might say.
 
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nakedfrog

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lol

Oh and frog, you'll be happy to know I've changed my mind about being an asshole. I've decided that I like Johnson's platform well enough that I can support him even if I'm not totally sold on the man himself.
Some of my best friends are assholes!

They're all voting for Johnson too, but that's not the point
 

IronWing

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I went hiking today. As I neared the end of my outing, I encountered a large snake eating a smaller snake. The larger snake went trotting off into the grass with its dinner hanging out of its mouth. Both snakes appears to be of the same species. I thought it a powerful portent for tomorrow's election.
 
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