In my head I was hearing Steve Butabi from Night at the Roxbury.
'And who do you think that guy was?'
'Albert Einstein'
'The smart physics guy! I swear to god!'
'We were like 'Albert!' WooooooO!'
In my head I was hearing Steve Butabi from Night at the Roxbury.Now THAT made me laugh - imagining the voice in a very serious after-school-special tone.
Disagree completely. At least being haphazardly passed around will teach a child to be self-reliant. Abuse is never positive, and never preferred.
I'd rather a child be raised by fucking wolves than be raised in an abusive household.
In my head I was hearing Steve Butabi from Night at the Roxbury.
'And who do you think that guy was?'
'Albert Einstein'
'The smart physics guy! I swear to god!'
'We were like 'Albert!' WooooooO!'
Just my humble opinion here--but I think any law specifically trying to enforce/protect a minor's right to identify with the gender of their choosing against their parents' wishes is a bad idea. There are some obvious situations where you would want to protect foster kids or prevent/reverse an adoption, but I think it's stupid to take kids away from birth parents except for cases of proven physical or emotional abuse--in which case there are existing laws to protect children.
Kids may already be aware of their identity/preferences pre-puberty, and it's great if parents can acknowledge that, but you still need to go through puberty and all the requisite physical, mental, and hormonal "growing up" before you decide you want to change.
Gay folks are born. They don't decide to change. Very 1980s statement there. Transgenders still have to pay for surgery and whatnot so it's not like a child is getting an addadicktome any time soon unless his folks pay for it. This is a non-issue much like gangs of transvestites hiding in toilets waiting for your children.
Ontario law evidently defines forcing a child to act like a certain gender against his/her/it's will as abuse.
I still cannot wrap my head around anyone except hardcore radicals opposing this. Since typical God-fearing conservatives view unborn fetuses as people with rights that cannot be compromised by the parents I have to ask at what point do you strip those rights from the child? Once you determine they might not be "normal"?
Here is the bill, recently passed:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&BillID=4479
It is in Ontario only, not all of Canada. Also it prevents stupid parents from ruining their children by attempting to make them straight. Aside from not being able to beat the gay out of your own children, here's another reason why conservatives are opposed:
Jack Fonseca, a political strategist for Campaign Life Coalition, criticized the new law: “With the passage of Bill 89, we’ve entered an era of totalitarian power by the state, such as never witnessed before in Canada’s history… Bill 89 is a grave threat to Christians and all people of faith who have children, or who hope to grow their family through adoption.”
Here we go with religion again. You would think that if an LGBT kid is available, and you're a bigot, you would just stick your nose in the air and refuse that kid. Evidently not. So in order to protect these children from being abused by those looking to "fix" them, they have to make stupid laws like this.
Good law.
lol @heatstreet, you really pick some winners
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I love Canada .
Fact is kids know who they are since they are very young and it doesn't change. Beating and stuff just reinforces them to be who they are. Only the weak give in or kill themselves and that's a whole other issue.. Trans kids are far more vulnerable to bullying and assault than anyone else.. and I suspect the OP is just another bully looking to smack people down for his own worthless ego.
Pretty much sums up your commitment to the truth or anything resembling an original thought.
Pretty much sums up your commitment to the truth or anything resembling an original thought.
Kids may already be aware of their identity/preferences pre-puberty, and it's great if parents can acknowledge that, but you still need to go through puberty and all the requisite physical, mental, and hormonal "growing up" before you decide you want to change.
lol @heatstreet, you really pick some winners
Transitioning goes much more smoothly if they don't undergo puberty first, and it can be delayed with relatively minimal effect while they figure out what's going on.
Disagree completely. At least being haphazardly passed around will teach a child to be self-reliant. Abuse is never positive, and never preferred.
I'd rather a child be raised by fucking wolves than be raised in an abusive household.
There you go projecting again, victim.Progressives are regressive.
And cancer.
There you go projecting again, victim.
No, I define abusive as abusive, as in physical, sexual, mental, or emotional abuse. I was responding directly to @interchange, not to the story. Try to follow a thread before you break out your sword....and you define "abusive" as a parent who doesn't want their kid to be brainwashed by the school into thinking s/he's the opposite gender? That it's better for the kid to have their sexual organs altered and reproductive system destroyed rather than provide counseling to guide someone with confusion or dysmorphia?
...maybe these kids shouldn't be coerced into transitioning in the first place?? You don't find it unusual that trans-trenders have only been a popular thing for 5-10 years? Their numbers have only recently EXPLODED from the tiny fraction it once was.
Yes, we all know gender dysmorphia has been around for ages, but this thing where it's now downright trendy is a recent phenomenon, and it's most definitely your progressive movement that's pushing it on two fronts: One; to be a white cis male is evil and disgusting, fie upon your white AND male privileges! Two; to be bisexual and trans is to regain "goodness", and to claim the desired victim-class status and be protected from the evil white cis males of patriarchal society.
Progressives are regressive.
And cancer.
Can Canadian parents still disagree with their children's incorrect math answers?
wtf canada? this new law you just got shoved down your throats is so fucked up. what is the next thing that the totalitarian Canadian government will consider child abuse and pass a law to take your kids away?
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/can...if-parents-dont-accept-their-gender-identity/
and this too
wtf???