Oh My Science! South Park - The Stick of Truth

[ImpulsE69]

Eh...the couple games I use that have Uplay were mixed.

one...I refuse to ever touch again.

The other, initially it was definitely annoying at first, but then they patched something that changed the way it acted, and it is much less intrusive. However, they did not make this change on the other game.

I am definitely leery of any game that uses it.

 

[mizzou]

Looks good.

Haven't had a good cartoon game since...well I can't think of much except

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqZ8E-vQCAg

 

[Maximilian]

Looks good, wont be getting if its Uplay though.

 

[motsm]

As with others, if it has Uplay I won't be buying this no matter how good it appears. Unfortunate, since I'm a fan of South Park and Obsidian can be competent.

 

[cmdrdredd]

As with others, if it has Uplay I won't be buying this no matter how good it appears. Unfortunate, since I'm a fan of South Park and Obsidian can be competent.

Ride the hate train...

 

[Maximilian]

Ride the hate train...

Oh come on man, after the GFWL fiasco you trust ubisoft with their DRM?

Only thing I trust is steamworks, hopefully that trust isnt misplaced.

 

[motsm]

Ride the hate train...

I can barely put up with Steam, and it's at least a competently designed piece of intrusive DRM garbage. The remaining DRM tolerance I had left is invested with my games tied to EA's abortion creation station, so there is no way in hell I'm making another account, even if it was the best most specialist greatness of DRM evar; and I am assuming from what I have read, that it ain't that.

It's getting to a point where it's barely worth the hassle, but perhaps that's because I'm currently fighting the constant barrage of thoughtless buggy tosh that is Mass Effect 2's PC port.

 

[KaOTiK]

Ride the hate train...

I don't see it as hate. Plenty of people have had miserable experiences with Uplay (I personally have not) and I can understand not wanting to deal with another service having to run to play a game, especially if you already are having to use another service on top of it to even launch the game.

I will say though, that Uplay isn't bad now (again from my experience), at least in its current form for Steam users. Ubisoft has made a special version that launches when you go to play one of their games on Steam (removes Uplay store and not sure if/what anything else). I also do like how you earn achievements on Uplay and those achievement points you can spend to get extras for your games, from a extra mission/map/character to cosmetic stuff. But, if given the choice, I wouldn't launch it at all if I was playing the game from Steam to start with.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I can barely put up with Steam, and it's at least a competently designed piece of intrusive DRM garbage. The remaining DRM tolerance I had left is invested with my games tied to EA's abortion creation station, so there is no way in hell I'm making another account, even if it was the best most specialist greatness of DRM evar; and I am assuming from what I have read, that it ain't that.

It's getting to a point where it's barely worth the hassle, but perhaps that's because I'm currently fighting the constant barrage of thoughtless buggy tosh that is Mass Effect 2's PC port.

Steam is not DRM and steam doesn't force DRM into games.

That is a developer choice so you need to complain about the devs not steam.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I want a company that produces games I like, Obsidian, to continue to exist. So I will buy this game.

 

[motsm]

Steam is not DRM and steam doesn't force DRM into games.

I'll be polite as possible about this, no need to start a big thread crapping argument here. Just do a Google search about DRM, because you obviously don't what it is.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I'll be polite as possible about this, no need to start a big thread crapping argument here. Just do a Google search about DRM, because you obviously don't what it is.

Lol you can buy games on steam that dont use steam's DRM. Steam has offline mode. How is that DRM? Steam is a marketplace first where valve makes money every time someone uses it to buy a game or dlc. Read some about steam, no developer is required to use the DRM components available to them.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Lol you can buy games on steam that dont use steam's DRM. Steam has offline mode. How is that DRM? Steam is a marketplace first where valve makes money every time someone uses it to buy a game or dlc. Read some about steam, no developer is required to use the DRM components available to them.

Seriously? What are you smoking. Try playing your games w/o Steam installed then come back and say "it's not DRM". SMH.

 

[darkewaffle]

Uplay's integration with Steam leaves something to be desired, and I did have a little bit of trouble getting FC3:Blood Dragon to work correctly initially but I also consider the few games I've got with Uplay to be well worth the trivial hassle.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

 

[cmdrdredd]

looking for a subwoofer to go along with my YSTM7 speakers....

MSW5W,MSW8W, or MSW10W would suffice...

southpaw

Um...try harder. If you buy it on steam or register it through steam and you cry "but I have to use steam" you are an idiot.

Steam has a DRM component but many games do not use it and only use a team as a distribution method.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Is this really necessary?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Is this really necessary?

As necessary as a comment like "with uplay I won't buy it." Is. I would think that we should be happy developers even release their games for pc. We are skipped over quite a bit.

 

[Kalmah]

Waiting to see if this game has some solid replay value. Usually games based on something that originally came from the outside (movie, tv show etc) are a one play game. I haven't done my homework on this game yet though so I could say that I'm clueless anyhow.

I did like what I saw in some short video clips that I watched.

 

[surfsatwerk]

As necessary as a comment like "with uplay I won't buy it." Is. I would think that we should be happy developers even release their games for pc. We are skipped over quite a bit.

You're not wrong.

 

[ImpulsE69]

As necessary as a comment like "with uplay I won't buy it." Is. I would think that we should be happy developers even release their games for pc. We are skipped over quite a bit.

Some of us aren't in the "make us jump through hoops after we gave you money to play your game" camp. Deal with it. I can pirate it and not give money OR deal with uplay. See the difference? At this point maybe you are right, it's not DRM, it's un-needed in my face marketing front ends required to start a game I bought. Not much better really. Yes we deal with Steam, but if dealing with Steam, we shouldn't need to deal with any other.

I was actually looking forward to this game, but it definitely just dropped to bargain bin for me. We shall see.


In this case I will say it may be unfortunate for Obsidion because they didn't really get to choose who their publisher was. However, it's the never ending battle of consumer vs publisher, because like it or not it WILL turn people away.

 

[Kalmah]

Some of us aren't in the "make us jump through hoops after we gave you money to play your game" camp. Deal with it. I can pirate it and not give money OR deal with uplay. See the difference? At this point maybe you are right, it's not DRM, it's un-needed in my face marketing front ends required to start a game I bought. Not much better really. Yes we deal with Steam, but if dealing with Steam, we shouldn't need to deal with any other.

I was actually looking forward to this game, but it definitely just dropped to bargain bin for me. We shall see.


In this case I will say it may be unfortunate for Obsidion because they didn't really get to choose who their publisher was. However, it's the never ending battle of consumer vs publisher, because like it or not it WILL turn people away.

I don't see this as much of a difference from paying for cable or satellite tv and still watching commercials. People still eat that shit up. I cut mine off years ago though.

I too would like to keep Obsidian around; they really are about all that we have left in the RPG department. Chances are that they are being milked by the publishers just as we are as the consumers. I'm all for voting with my wallet, but what are we going to do when there is nothing left but EA scraps?

I don't know, I think my purchasing decision is going to be based on the game itself this time. I feel like this game had honest beginnings or something.

 

[cmdrdredd]

It will also force developers out of pc games entirely as well. It is important to let developers know there is money to be made on the pc as well. Remember without developers making games your $500 GPU is nearly worthless.

I guess it is just me but I am saddened when I see people say they refuse to buy a game until it is $20. That just tells the developer nobody cares and they will not make any games for the platform. Sure it is ok to refuse to buy a game but when you say you won't pay more than bargain bin prices, that sends a message that a developers time isn't well spent making a game for the pc. It is just my feeling and opinion.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It will also force developers out of pc games entirely as well. It is important to let developers know there is money to be made on the pc as well. Remember without developers making games your $500 GPU is nearly worthless.

I guess it is just me but I am saddened when I see people say they refuse to buy a game until it is $20. That just tells the developer nobody cares and they will not make any games for the platform. Sure it is ok to refuse to buy a game but when you say you won't pay more than bargain bin prices, that sends a message that a developers time isn't well spent making a game for the pc. It is just my feeling and opinion.

I'm really ok with paying $50 for a game and I'd even go $60, the thing I find unfortunate is gamers have a long history of being screwed by game developers and companies. Basically consistently put out a product that is worth the $50-60 price and I will buy.

 

[KaOTiK]

I'll be polite as possible about this, no need to start a big thread crapping argument here. Just do a Google search about DRM, because you obviously don't what it is.

First and foremost, Steam is a digital delivery system. There are games you can purchase on Steam and not even have to have Steam running to play, you can launch the games directly with the exe. Most developers use the Steam DRM though that requires Steam to be running to play the game. It is something that is often not known by people.