Oh sweet god...

[squirrel dog]

Maybe time for your bro to grow up .

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Isn't it your responsibility to come forward with the true background information on what happened? It likely won't change anything, but at least managers would get an alternate view of the situation and it could help your buddy down the road.

I don't know anything more than everyone else knows...


Small addendum: Her DAD works here too and got in on the fun, he'd call the guy son and likewise he would respond to "dad." It was fun.


Edit: Appears the person above me is yet another poster who didn't like the thought of reading the thread first.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Kev

On the receiving end hearing lewd jokes and the f bomb? Are you kidding me?

on the receiving end of a hostile work environment.

my last job had to have been the exemplification of it. everything was "i love you this" and "i love you that..." the one openly gay employee that we had got made fun of relentlessly behind his back.

that is so completely different than the situation described in this thread.

 

[ITJunkie]

Sorry to hear this. The unfortunate part in all of this is what you stated...the whole mood of the office is now changed. He doesn't dare move a toe out of line until he finds another job and if any of you retaliate against her, the companies open to a lawsuit. No easy answer to this problem....

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: MazerRackham
NEVER try to date women you work with. NEVARRRR!!!!

As I've been telling a friend recently, Fishing off the company pier is catch and release only.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: ITJunkie
Sorry to hear this. The unfortunate part in all of this is what you stated...the whole mood of the office is now changed. He doesn't dare move a toe out of line until he finds another job and if any of you retaliate against her, the companies open to a lawsuit. No easy answer to this problem....

It's just so sad to see him like this. He's a completely different person.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: kranky

The point many people are missing is that it's completely up to the other person to decide if they have been offended! It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

No matter what other opinions are offered in this thread, this should be considered the bottom line.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Isn't it your responsibility to come forward with the true background information on what happened? It likely won't change anything, but at least managers would get an alternate view of the situation and it could help your buddy down the road.

I don't know anything more than everyone else knows...


Small addendum: Her DAD works here too and got in on the fun, he'd call the guy son and likewise he would respond to "dad." It was fun.


Edit: Appears the person above me is yet another poster who didn't like the thought of reading the thread first.

he is right though.

he asked her out (bad idea anyway). she said no. he continued to harrass her about it. yeah he thought she was jokeing around with him. but it really does not matter its still harrasment.

i agree he has to grow up.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Isn't it your responsibility to come forward with the true background information on what happened? It likely won't change anything, but at least managers would get an alternate view of the situation and it could help your buddy down the road.

I don't know anything more than everyone else knows...


Small addendum: Her DAD works here too and got in on the fun, he'd call the guy son and likewise he would respond to "dad." It was fun.


Edit: Appears the person above me is yet another poster who didn't like the thought of reading the thread first.

he is right though.

he asked her out (bad idea anyway). she said no. he continued to harrass her about it. yeah he thought she was jokeing around with him. but it really does not matter its still harrasment.

i agree he has to grow up.

unless she mentioned something to her, that's still pretty fucked up. if she didn't mention anything, how the fuck was he supposed to know? especially since they hung out outside of work. you're telling me you don't joke around like that with friends you know?

if she DID mention something to him, then that's def his fault.

 

[Beev]

As far as I know she never told him to stop. He's the type of person that would have stopped had she told him. He's respectful in that regard.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: kranky

The point many people are missing is that it's completely up to the other person to decide if they have been offended! It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

No matter what other opinions are offered in this thread, this should be considered the bottom line.

And that is why the whole situation is complete horse crap.

If she had reported that this bothered her THE FIRST TIME...and not laughed along with it the whole time, while being great friends with this guy, then she might have been in the right.

But she is completely, 100%, totally in the wrong. If the company had the slightest bit of balls, they'd write HER up, and maybe even fire her if she didn't shape up.
Would that risk a lawsuit? Yes. Would the company likely win if the whole office testified to what the OP says is the real situation? Yes.
And it all goes back to what someone else posted here:
Pussification
Of
America

It needs to stop, and sooner or later some of these companies are going to start getting rid of these pansy-ass people and start fighting back.

Yeah, I know WHY this guy got written up, and I know WHY people who've posted here like Kranky have turned into complete non-personalities at work. And it's wrong.
There IS such a thing as harassment, and this situation isn't it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Isn't it your responsibility to come forward with the true background information on what happened? It likely won't change anything, but at least managers would get an alternate view of the situation and it could help your buddy down the road.

I don't know anything more than everyone else knows...


Small addendum: Her DAD works here too and got in on the fun, he'd call the guy son and likewise he would respond to "dad." It was fun.


Edit: Appears the person above me is yet another poster who didn't like the thought of reading the thread first.

he is right though.

he asked her out (bad idea anyway). she said no. he continued to harrass her about it. yeah he thought she was jokeing around with him. but it really does not matter its still harrasment.

i agree he has to grow up.

unless she mentioned something to her, that's still pretty fucked up. if she didn't mention anything, how the fuck was he supposed to know? especially since they hung out outside of work. you're telling me you don't joke around like that with friends you know?

if she DID mention something to him, then that's def his fault.

she did tell him something. she told him NO to dateing him. that should have been the end of it. He should nto have "joked" with her about her going on a date with him.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: waggy
she did tell him something. she told him NO to dateing him. that should have been the end of it. He should nto have "joked" with her about her going on a date with him.

I can't tell. Did you just completely miss the part where her freaking DAD joined in? I don't know about you, but if it really bothered me even in the least bit then the first people I'd tell were my parents especially if they joined in.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Isn't it your responsibility to come forward with the true background information on what happened? It likely won't change anything, but at least managers would get an alternate view of the situation and it could help your buddy down the road.

I don't know anything more than everyone else knows...


Small addendum: Her DAD works here too and got in on the fun, he'd call the guy son and likewise he would respond to "dad." It was fun.


Edit: Appears the person above me is yet another poster who didn't like the thought of reading the thread first.

he is right though.

he asked her out (bad idea anyway). she said no. he continued to harrass her about it. yeah he thought she was jokeing around with him. but it really does not matter its still harrasment.

i agree he has to grow up.

unless she mentioned something to her, that's still pretty fucked up. if she didn't mention anything, how the fuck was he supposed to know? especially since they hung out outside of work. you're telling me you don't joke around like that with friends you know?

if she DID mention something to him, then that's def his fault.

she did tell him something. she told him NO to dateing him. that should have been the end of it. He should nto have "joked" with her about her going on a date with him.

So what? I've asked coworkers out on a date, been refused, and we joked about it later. If they TOLD ME they were uncomfortable with it, I would've stopped. Otherwise, as we became friends outside of the work place, it was just fun and games.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: waggy
she did tell him something. she told him NO to dateing him. that should have been the end of it. He should nto have "joked" with her about her going on a date with him.

I can't tell. Did you just completely miss the part where her freaking DAD joined in? I don't know about you, but if it really bothered me even in the least bit then the first people I'd tell were my parents especially if they joined in.

so fucking what?

he continued to ask. wich is harrasment. in this case yeah she may jsut be a bitch. BUT the company can't risk it.

its stupid to continue to joke about such things. wich he foundout heh

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: waggy
so fucking what?

he continued to ask. wich is harrasment. in this case yeah she may jsut be a bitch. BUT the company can't risk it.

its stupid to continue to joke about such things. wich he foundout heh

The next time your boss asks you to do something, say no. Then when he asks again, sue for harassment. That's your logic, so go with it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: waggy
so fucking what?

he continued to ask. wich is harrasment. in this case yeah she may jsut be a bitch. BUT the company can't risk it.

its stupid to continue to joke about such things. wich he foundout heh

The next time your boss asks you to do something, say no. Then when he asks again, sue for harassment. That's your logic, so go with it.

are you fucking stupid?

asking a girl out repeatedly when she has said no is sexual harassment (no matter if you think she/her father/her mother borther sister aunt are jokeing with you). Saying no when your boss ask you do something is ground for getting fired (unless he ask you for a blow job).

HR has to take the sexual harassment accusation seriously. They open themselves up for some nasty lawsuits if they do not. Why put yourself in a position of having something like that fallow you around?

 

[Dean]

...Lil Johnny, the office clown, realized after the fact, that practicing the DX "s*ck it" gesture on his female co-worker was totally inappropriate .

 

[Beev]

This girl would have no basis for a lawsuit if she wanted to do one. It would thrown out instantly. It's in line with "he looked at me sexually!" suits.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
This girl would have no basis for a lawsuit if she wanted to do one. It would thrown out instantly. It's in line with "he looked at me sexually!" suits.

many get settled otu of court. And if they are cought trying to hide teh harrasment or even little action they get nailed.


while i think the "looked at me" suits/accusations are bullshit i can understand the steps managment does to protect themselves.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz
This girl would have no basis for a lawsuit if she wanted to do one. It would thrown out instantly. It's in line with "he looked at me sexually!" suits.

many get settled otu of court. And if they are cought trying to hide teh harrasment or even little action they get nailed.


while i think the "looked at me" suits/accusations are bullshit i can understand the steps managment does to protect themselves.

Of course, and I understand that companies always have to look out for themselves first, but that doesn't mean going after anyone that gets complained about "just to be safe." That's crap.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz
This girl would have no basis for a lawsuit if she wanted to do one. It would thrown out instantly. It's in line with "he looked at me sexually!" suits.

many get settled otu of court. And if they are cought trying to hide teh harrasment or even little action they get nailed.


while i think the "looked at me" suits/accusations are bullshit i can understand the steps managment does to protect themselves.

Of course, and I understand that companies always have to look out for themselves first, but that doesn't mean going after anyone that gets complained about "just to be safe." That's crap.

ahh but they have to! wich is why i say the OP's friend is a idiot. DO not put yourself in such a situation. crap like this will fallow you around and ruin many chances you may get.

 

[zach0624]

it is considered harassment(probably sexual, depending on the jokes) and she has a right to write him up. I can't say whether or not I agree with what she did because I don't exactly led up to it and how she really felt about being teased (although from what Sraaz said she was probably just trying to get back at him over an argument, in which case I think what she did is wrong). You do have to be careful in the office about what you say though, it may be a pain but the rules are there to protect people and keep a productive work environment.

 

[her209]

All this could have been avoided if the girl said "yes".


/sarcasm

 

[JEDIYoda]

In the work place a man is always wrong!!! doesn`t matter if true or not....
It`s best to stay to yourself and for God sake do not ever tease or ask a woman out opr you will be the one out....the door...