Oh sweet god...

[jackace]

I agree with others in this thread. I talk to the women that I work with, but you have to be VERY VERY careful if you talk to them about anything but work. Also as said above and applies with everyone not just women, never talk about politics or religion at work. Some people get butt hurt about both way too easy.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
When he first started he asked her out, she said no, and that was that. However, he often teases her about it and asks her again (with a massive sarcastic smile on his face) she laughs, he laughs, our god damn bosses laugh.

 

[krunchykrome]

She may be a "stupid b!tch", but your coworker's and anyone else who thought this ongoing behavior was appropriate are idiots.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
She may be a "stupid b!tch", but your coworker's and anyone else who thought this ongoing behavior was appropriate are idiots.

Technically, nothing other than work related things are "work appropriate." Baseball game last night? Not work appropriate. New game came out? Not work appropriate. Now, obviously people still talk about these, because no one cares, BUT, it also depends on your settings. Maybe your office does care and therefore you can't talk about sports, etc there. It's all about perception.

Anyway, this isn't even the point of this thread. The point is that they were friends and then she used everything against him JUST because they had an argument. It's bullshit, immature, and childish.

 

[rh71]

play with fire much ?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

Wow you're quite the dumbass aren't you? I didn't disagree with it being an issue. the entire point of everything I've ever posted is about the way she handled it. Kindly try reading the thread again.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

Wow you're quite the dumbass aren't you? I didn't disagree with it being an issue. the entire point of everything I've ever posted is about the way she handled it. Kindly try reading the thread again.

You forgot the golden rule:

All Women Are Right.
All Men Are Wrong.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

Wow you're quite the dumbass aren't you? I didn't disagree with it being an issue. the entire point of everything I've ever posted is about the way she handled it. Kindly try reading the thread again.

you've made light of the issue repeatedly, saying how "everyone laughed at it" and that you in essence think she's lying or seeking revenge. That means you don't think his behavior is an issue, and it most certainly is. You've been argumentative and insulting to anyone in this thread to told you that his behavior was inappropriate and disagreed with you.

telling people to read the thread again won't suddenly make you right.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

Wow you're quite the dumbass aren't you? I didn't disagree with it being an issue. the entire point of everything I've ever posted is about the way she handled it. Kindly try reading the thread again.

I have read the thread and mikey is right.

NO matter why she did it. She has the right and he has been sexualy harrasing her.

once a women says no to a date MOVE THE FUCK ON. Do NOT tease her about it, DO not joke about it, DO NOT FUCKING ASK HER AGAIN.

best idea is not to even ask a coworker out on a date.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
you've made light of the issue repeatedly, saying how "everyone laughed at it" and that you in essence think she's lying or seeking revenge. That means you don't think his behavior is an issue, and it most certainly is. You've been argumentative and insulting to anyone in this thread to told you that his behavior was inappropriate and disagreed with you.

telling people to read the thread again won't suddenly make you right.

Uh, that doesn't mean shit. Yeah he was on the edge and could have easily been reported (which in the end he was) the entire point is the way. she. handled it. If she would have told him to stop and he still continued then I would have probably yelled at him myself.

 

[oddyager]

So:

1. Your friend asks a coworker out (mistake #1) and she said no. This should have ended here.

2. Your friend teases her about it (mistake #2). She laughs, too. You claim your friend is a funny guy. There are other things in life you can poke fun at seriously.

3. Your friend did something to piss her off and with aforementioned mistakes, she now has ammo to shut him up.

tsk tsk.

 

[Firebot]

Originally posted by: thraashman
A couple years ago I was working at a Best Buy and a vendor left a gift for one of my co-workers as a thank you for some help. Now the co-wokrer is a very attractive blonde. But she was oddly excited about the gift, not because of what it was, but because she was just happy to get a package at work. And she kept saying "I got a package!". When she said that to me I responded with, "I'm trying not to make a joke". She insisted I tell her what the joke was even though it was obvious it centered around making a joke on "package". So I told her I was gonna say "If I'm feeling UP for it later, I've got a package for you"



She then went and told the manager on duty that I have no respect for women. And the MOD came over and had a talk with me. That was some of the biggest bullshit ever to me. I wasn't even gonna say it until she insisted.

She FORCED you to make a sexual harrassment joke in the office? What the hell's wrong with you?

 

[Firebot]

Originally posted by: oddyager
So:

1. Your friend asks a coworker out (mistake #1) and she said no. This should have ended here.

2. Your friend teases her about it (mistake #2). She laughs, too. You claim your friend is a funny guy. There are other things in life you can poke fun at seriously.

3. Your friend did something to piss her off and with aforementioned mistakes, she now has ammo to shut him up.

tsk tsk.

It's pretty likely that his friend made a sexually oriented comment at step #3 when the discussion became heated. Probably called her a bitch or something, which is absent from the original post.

 

[videogames101]

thats, rly, rly evil... shes the one that needs to be written up for like, harrasment, or w/e

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
Ok, to preface, we are an office of roughly 40 people. We have our little cliques like every other office and things work fine. One of my coworkers, and a good friend at work, sits next to a girl (not very attractive, but that doesn't matter). When he first started he asked her out, she said no, and that was that. However, he often teases her about it and asks her again (with a massive sarcastic smile on his face) she laughs, he laughs, our god damn bosses laugh.

Fast forward to Monday of this week and apparently he did something completely unrelated to piss her off, so to "get even" she reports him for anything he's ever done. He gets in trouble, written up, etc. Now it's Friday, and all week he has been super quiet and secluded. He used to bring humor to our office in more ways than one and now it's like his personality was literally killed.

Stupid bitch.

/rant

-3/10

<---P&N
L&R--->

props for your ending with arrows pointing to the other forums. :thumbsup:

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
props for your ending with arrows pointing to the other forums. :thumbsup:

Wanted to get the inevitable rating and "wrong forum" posts out of the way

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: boomerang
I've adopted a "strictly business" policy with the women at work. I communicate only as needed for work and that's all.

I don't like doing this, but I really have no other choice. I just can't take the chance.

What prompted this was my remark to a female co-worker that her hair smelled nice. I had known her for over 20 years at that point. The next day she's acting very cool towards me. After doing some discrete checking around, I find that she was offended by my remark and is considering filing sexual harassment charges against me. I should say that she has a history of this behavior and has followed through in the past. None of her accusations have stuck - yet.

Sexual harassment is what the woman (in this case) deems it to be. It may be a lewd joke, a suggestive remark, that your hair smells nice, or maybe even "Good morning". It's all up to her.

I'm not risking everything on them.

You're doing the smart thing. While it would be great to joke around sometimes, it's not worth the chance. I've done the same. I limit all physical contact to the introductory handshake when meeting someone for the first time. No references to anything gender-related. No politics, religion, any controversial topics of discussion. The only upside is that if someone tries to completely fabricate something against me, I would have no trouble getting a dozen female co-workers to swear that I am all business all the time and have never, ever made even the tiniest hint of a suggestive remark. It would just not be a credible story.

The point many people are missing is that it's completely up to the other person to decide if they have been offended! It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

Thus proving the point that "sexual harrassment" is the only crime in which intent (of the perpetrator) is determined by the victim. :roll:

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
Ok, to preface, we are an office of roughly 40 people. We have our little cliques like every other office and things work fine. One of my coworkers, and a good friend at work, sits next to a girl (not very attractive, but that doesn't matter). When he first started he asked her out, she said no, and that was that. However, he often teases her about it and asks her again (with a massive sarcastic smile on his face) she laughs, he laughs, our god damn bosses laugh.

Fast forward to Monday of this week and apparently he did something completely unrelated to piss her off, so to "get even" she reports him for anything he's ever done. He gets in trouble, written up, etc. Now it's Friday, and all week he has been super quiet and secluded. He used to bring humor to our office in more ways than one and now it's like his personality was literally killed.

Stupid bitch.

/rant

-3/10

<---P&N
L&R--->

based on your side of the story, yeah what a bitch she is. poeple like that should die.

(now if her side was presented, then it would probably sound like he should be fired?)

 

[Beev]

Little update for today, since it's been a week since it initially happened.

He seems to be doing a lot better. Not many people in the office know about the situation to begin with. He has sworn to never speak to her again (good choice) and apparently she apologized to someone (not him) for something to do with it, but I'm not sure what. Hopefully he starts being talkative again at the very least.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

If you ask a coworker out (which is, generally speaking, a terrible mistake), you have to be able to handle rejection. Constantly joking/teasing her about it is not "handling" it. Obviously it made her uncomfortable, but she didn't want to come out and tell this guy that he was being a jerk and to knock it the hell off. She should've spoken to a supervisor ages ago about the behavior if it bothered her (which it apparently did), but that doesn't get your friend off the hook for his extremely obvious sexual harrassment (and a textbook example of why you don't ask coworkers out).

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

Wow you're quite the dumbass aren't you? I didn't disagree with it being an issue. the entire point of everything I've ever posted is about the way she handled it. Kindly try reading the thread again.

I have read the thread and mikey is right.

NO matter why she did it. She has the right and he has been sexualy harrasing her.

once a women says no to a date MOVE THE FUCK ON. Do NOT tease her about it, DO not joke about it, DO NOT FUCKING ASK HER AGAIN.

best idea is not to even ask a coworker out on a date.

While I agree that doing what you recommend is a great way to avoid being accused of sexual harassment, this chick wouldn't even have her case heard before a judge....it's likely the DA wouldn't even press charges.

Sorry, but she doesn't get to hang out with this guy for months, laugh at him asking her out JOKINGLY for months, then suddenly cry "harassment" down the line.
If she had reported him for harassment AT THE BEGINNING, she'd have a case.
And even if this one somehow made to to court, it'd be laughed out.

Again,
Pussification
Of
America

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

Wow you're quite the dumbass aren't you? I didn't disagree with it being an issue. the entire point of everything I've ever posted is about the way she handled it. Kindly try reading the thread again.

I have read the thread and mikey is right.

NO matter why she did it. She has the right and he has been sexualy harrasing her.

once a women says no to a date MOVE THE FUCK ON. Do NOT tease her about it, DO not joke about it, DO NOT FUCKING ASK HER AGAIN.

best idea is not to even ask a coworker out on a date.

While I agree that doing what you recommend is a great way to avoid being accused of sexual harassment, this chick wouldn't even have her case heard before a judge....it's likely the DA wouldn't even press charges.

Sorry, but she doesn't get to hang out with this guy for months, laugh at him asking her out JOKINGLY for months, then suddenly cry "harassment" down the line.
If she had reported him for harassment AT THE BEGINNING, she'd have a case.
And even if this one somehow made to to court, it'd be laughed out.

Again,
Pussification
Of
America

now remember we are only hearing his side retold from his friend. how truthfull do you think it is?

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Sraaz

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just give up guys, Sraaz obviously is stubborn and too immature to see that this is a real issue. Let him continue in his idiocy until he too gets sued.

Wow you're quite the dumbass aren't you? I didn't disagree with it being an issue. the entire point of everything I've ever posted is about the way she handled it. Kindly try reading the thread again.

I have read the thread and mikey is right.

NO matter why she did it. She has the right and he has been sexualy harrasing her.

once a women says no to a date MOVE THE FUCK ON. Do NOT tease her about it, DO not joke about it, DO NOT FUCKING ASK HER AGAIN.

best idea is not to even ask a coworker out on a date.

While I agree that doing what you recommend is a great way to avoid being accused of sexual harassment, this chick wouldn't even have her case heard before a judge....it's likely the DA wouldn't even press charges.

Sorry, but she doesn't get to hang out with this guy for months, laugh at him asking her out JOKINGLY for months, then suddenly cry "harassment" down the line.
If she had reported him for harassment AT THE BEGINNING, she'd have a case.
And even if this one somehow made to to court, it'd be laughed out.

Again,
Pussification
Of
America

now remember we are only hearing his side retold from his friend. how truthfull do you think it is?

well why don't we assume it is because we have no way of proving otherwise (ie how do you know it's not)

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
If you ask a coworker out (which is, generally speaking, a terrible mistake), you have to be able to handle rejection. Constantly joking/teasing her about it is not "handling" it. Obviously it made her uncomfortable, but she didn't want to come out and tell this guy that he was being a jerk and to knock it the hell off. She should've spoken to a supervisor ages ago about the behavior if it bothered her (which it apparently did), but that doesn't get your friend off the hook for his extremely obvious sexual harrassment (and a textbook example of why you don't ask coworkers out).

No, people need to be accountable for themselves, and freaking man up....she should have told the guy to not joke with her anymore, and she shouldn't have been laughing at him asking her out, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BOSSES, and not waiting until she was PMS'ing one month and report him for harassment.

Again, I agree with those who say that never even discussing this type of stuff with female coworkers is a great way to avoid harassment claims, but that doesn't go to the heart of the matter....which is personal accountability.
She could have easily told this guy, whom the OP says she was the best of friends with after work, that him asking her out was making her uncomfortable. She didn't. Therefore, she automatically should forfeit her right to make this claim.
And the bosses, who knew this was the deal, should have told her to suck it up and deal with it.

As I said before, it's time that some companies step up and challenge crap like this instead of bending over and reprimanding someone who didn't deserve it.