Ohio SOS Wants to Ban Biden From Ballot

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hal2kilo

Lifer
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I understand that, and from the article it looks like both parties screw this up regularly. I just dont understand how it happens in the first place, your elections dates and all these deadlines are all known years or decades ahead of time (I assume these deadlines stay fairly static) you have huge parties with campaigns that spend enormous amounts of money and have large amounts of expert staff, how does this kind of stuff get overlooked in the first place?
Crazy Pub legislatures. Nuf said.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
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He’s right…the Dems started it. (they may have had legal reasoning behind their attempts…unlike the Repubs) but they DID take the first shot.
No he's wrong - one has actual sound legal reasoning behind it about a very fucking serious issue, the other is something happening purely out of spite and a lack of ethics.

Those are two different types of shots, so no, they are not comparable.

The fact people both sides this shit is fucking insanely wrong.
 

Jon-T

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I think the Democrats have shown once again they've underestimated what the evil Republican party is about.

Sometimes you got to bring a knife to a knife fight, not think these evil fuckers will do the decent thing.
The Republicans have nothing to do with this.

The filing deadline is the same as it ever was. The DNC decided to hold their convention late and never noticed that if they nominated Joe late they would miss the filing deadline.

This demonstrates how the Democrats just cant do anything correctly, weather it involves entering an election or running a country.

These are not competent people. These are the people who screw up your drive through order.
 

K1052

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The Republicans have nothing to do with this.

The filing deadline is the same as it ever was. The DNC decided to hold their convention late and never noticed that if they nominated Joe late they would miss the filing deadline.

This demonstrates how the Democrats just cant do anything correctly, weather it involves entering an election or running a country.

These are not competent people. These are the people who screw up your drive through order.

They routinely extended the deadline, most recently for Trump in 2020.

What good explanation is there for not doing so as usual?
 

dank69

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fskimospy

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The Republicans have nothing to do with this.

The filing deadline is the same as it ever was. The DNC decided to hold their convention late and never noticed that if they nominated Joe late they would miss the filing deadline.

This demonstrates how the Democrats just cant do anything correctly, weather it involves entering an election or running a country.

These are not competent people. These are the people who screw up your drive through order.
So to be clear when Trump decided to hold his convention late in 2020 and missed the deadline you think that was evidence of his incompetence and that he would screw up a drive through order?
 

Jon-T

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Just to show how the Republicans value a fair election

The same problem existed in Alabama. The DNC could not file their paperwork on time.


The Republicans in the House, Senate and Governor passed a bill changing the rules to put Biden on the ballot despite the DNC mistake.
 
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BoomerD

No Lifer
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I guess it depends on if you think enforcing the law is 'taking the first shot'.

No he's wrong - one has actual sound legal reasoning behind it about a very fucking serious issue, the other is something happening purely out of spite and a lack of ethics.

Those are two different types of shots, so no, they are not comparable.

The fact people both sides this shit is fucking insanely wrong

Alla y’all motherfuckers need new sarcasm meters.
 
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K1052

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Just to show how the Republicans value a fair election

The same problem existed in Alabama. The DNC could not file their paperwork on time.


The Republican led House, Senate and Governor passed a bill changing the rules to put Biden on the ballot despite the DNC mistake.

Both. Parties. Often. Have. Conventions. After. Ballot. Deadlines. In. Various. States. And. Those. States. Accommodate. Them.
 

outriding

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Feb 20, 2002
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The Republicans have nothing to do with this.

The filing deadline is the same as it ever was. The DNC decided to hold their convention late and never noticed that if they nominated Joe late they would miss the filing deadline.

This demonstrates how the Democrats just cant do anything correctly, weather it involves entering an election or running a country.

These are not competent people. These are the people who screw up your drive through order.
What was that again?

 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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He’s right…the Dems started it. (they may have had legal reasoning behind their attempts…unlike the Repubs) but they DID take the first shot.
The issue is they didn't have legal reasoning. "Everyone knows" isn't an indictment, it isn't a conviction, it's hearsay.
 

fskimospy

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Just to show how the Republicans value a fair election

The same problem existed in Alabama. The DNC could not file their paperwork on time.


The Republican led House, Senate and Governor passed a bill changing the rules to put Biden on the ballot despite the DNC mistake.
If Republicans value fair elections why did they attempt a coup when they lost the 2020 one?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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This has been asked in this thread and in others and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it answered.

This logic means the people who wrote the 14th amendment thought it should be legal Robert E. Lee and/or Jefferson Davis to become president of the United States in 1868.

Do you think that’s the case? If so, why. If not, then clearly they did not consider being tried and convicted of a crime to be necessary. Which side do you land on?

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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K1052

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The issue is they didn't have legal reasoning. "Everyone knows" isn't an indictment, it isn't a conviction, it's hearsay.

Then I think its only fair, to us and him, that he get his day in court(s) before he stands for election.
 
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BoomerD

No Lifer
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The issue is they didn't have legal reasoning. "Everyone knows" isn't an indictment, it isn't a conviction, it's hearsay.

Please quote the appropriate part of the US Constitution or Bill of Rights that specifically says that a conviction is necessary to disqualify a candidate under the 14th amendment, section 3.

Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
 

fskimospy

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The issue is they didn't have legal reasoning. "Everyone knows" isn't an indictment, it isn't a conviction, it's hearsay.
This is 100% false.

In case you would like to read the legal reasoning here you go:


After permitting President Trump and the Colorado Republican State Central Committee (“CRSCC”; collectively, “Intervenors”) to intervene in the action below, the district court conducted a five-day trial. The court found by clear and convincing evidence that President Trump engaged in insurrection as those terms are used in Section Three.

Here's the district court ruling finding that Trump engaged in insurrection and the evidence used to support this finding:


So now that you know they DID have legal reasoning, do you want to revise your position?
 
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