Levis bought at walmart have a lower thread count than real Levis. Just sayin'.
I never made the claim that walmart oils were "watered down".
Furthermore, I guess if I must provide a link and if it isn't on the internet it must not be true. Fair enough, it isn't true then. You win and i'll bow out in defeat.
EDIT: I'll leave this here.
Now that is funny stuff... Like to hear how you can explain this about GM engines (for sure about V6 Vs 4cyl and stress)...? Only thing that cost me is the time to catch the sample of oil nothing more, my company does it for free and I'm to guess your one of those that believes you must pay through the nose to get the best...? Did you even read the link provided...? 5W-30 oil comparisons Might want to do some comparing then look at the bottom line... We have and oil analysis does not lie because it is real world numbers not just a website or hearsay...
Damn 30+ years as a mechanic and work on $200K+ machines for a living and guess I know nothing about oil...? "nothing personal" D:
That's absolutely insane, do you think these companies spend millions on R+D, marketing, then have different versions of their product for different stores? I guess the Cap'n Crunch sold at Walmart probably has less crunch-berries than the boxes sold at Kroger..
more valves + no push rods = higher accuracy/timing/less friction/better in almost every way. compairing GM to GM.. before the bailout is like compairing GeorgeBush senior to George Jr. ,After the bailout perhaps not quite as bad, but i cant give credit to Billionaire CEO's asking for handouts like a crackhead on wellfair, then making design changes only because they sucked the gov's giant pole so they wouldn't need to spend any of there vaycay bonus.Wow, you automotive knowledge is so lacking I don't know where to begin..first off a GM pushrod V6 3.5L only makes 200HP, 3.5L sized V6's from Nissan, Honda, Toyota were making 250+HP way back in the early 2000's, this is because they were twin-cam four valve per cylinder design's, GM in 2008 finally went that route with the re-design of the Malibu and upgraded the V6 to a modern one with 255HP. There's a trade-off involved, I get very good MPG with my "old-school" engine with it's simple, cool-running design, on the flip side 50-60 more HP is quite noticeable in a mid-sized sedan and HP sells cars. Secondly one can't "water-down" motor oil, water and oil don't mix too well LOL. Go ahead and shop for your Pennsoil at Sears, Target, Auto-zone but IT'S THE EXACT SAME PRODUCT THAT IS ON THE SHELF AT WALMART! anyone suggesting because they pay crappy wages means they sell "watered-down" name-brand oil is just nuts..
This doesn't make sense. Just for a company doing such business would be a distribution nightmare and not to mention lawsuit that will follow if somehow the oil was accidentally shipped to other distributor. Furthermore the brand that is at walmart should be label as walmart additive. When you compare two container they are identical parts store vs walmart.
back it up.
If I own the company I will make sure it is the same. I don't care who is packaging it.
Like the other poster say if you make that claim please provide link
There are more transparencies now the way businesses are run. So the old ways of running a business will not work unless you are in china. Even that is changing
lol this is how i feel its like arguing with kindergardeners, perhaps thats why thy are comfortable buying things from walmart other than non-important crap.
I'm really not going to write an essay and teach the op about mechanics... unless he pays me. but I'll leave these obvious responses b4 quiting this board aswell.. i appoligize before hand there is way too much garbage posted to respond to everything... again unless you pay me
30yrs ago, GM was "efficent" because there was little or no non-domestic brands to compair them to
that link left no spot on the chart for the amount of peanut or corn oil found in SuperTech.
you actually hit the nail on the head. its common though to not notice, most people don't have a reason to.
more valves + no push rods = higher accuracy/timing/less friction/better in almost every way. compairing GM to GM.. before the bailout is like compairing GeorgeBush senior to George Jr. ,After the bailout perhaps not quite as bad, but i cant give credit to Billionaire CEO's asking for handouts like a crackhead on wellfair, then making design changes only because they sucked the gov's giant pole so they wouldn't need to spend any of there vaycay bonus.
Higher hp if done right means higher efficency. theres a lot of variable that affect hp and mpg.. not even touching the engine and redesigning the tranny can affect mpg. there's lots of possabilities of why GM consistantly failed but it can be summed up with 'incompetence'.
There are different part numbers or codes on products sent to such stores as walmart... next time your randomely at the store, check it out, take a pic with your phone of an items product code off the item container and compare it to one from a different retailer you end up at.
LOL im not your mother
i don't see a link? LOL
If that is the case then I guess I will start using it to fry my french fries in it...that link left no spot on the chart for the amount of peanut or corn oil found in SuperTech.
If that is the case then I guess I will start using it to fry my french fries in it...
But the oil analysis would see this if it were true... (comes under "foreign matter" and viscosity index)
And I doubt you could teach me mechanics but not to say I could not learn something new as I do every day... But did notice that yes you have responded to everyone but in the text of "b4 quitting this board"
Gillbot... Take note your link has one state mentioned at the bottom and I will leave it at that...:sneaky:
This is the crap that keeps lawyers rich...D::biggrin:Wikipedia Privacy Policy?
More HP usually results in lower MPG but the HP sells and your wrong, a pushrod, 2 valve per cylinder engine is a much simpler design and much easier on the oil, that's why newer model cars are spec'ed to use synthetic only in many cases. Tell you what, go buy a quart of Castrol GTX at Walmart and go buy one at Sears or autozone and send them off for analysis, I'd bet you any amount you'd care to wager they would come back EXACTLY the same..
if the analysis process is as accurate as a doctors analysis for example.. i wouldn't bet any money on it, they may only be searching for a set criteria and may not find stuff if no one put it on there list to search for it.If that is the case then I guess I will start using it to fry my french fries in it...
But the oil analysis would see this if it were true... (comes under "foreign matter" and viscosity index)
And I doubt you could teach me mechanics but not to say I could not learn something new as I do every day... But did notice that yes you have responded to everyone but in the text of "b4 quitting this board"
I'm really not going to write an essay and teach the op about mechanics... unless he pays me.
LOL im not your mother
your making a lot of non scientific assumptions. i never said because the double over head is more efficent a 250hp double over head would get better mpg... if you compair apples to apples, a 250hp push rod will get worse gas millage than a 250hp double overhead. Besides you were comparing GM to GM, the 250hp Toyota/Honda's get better mpg than your 200hp GM. Synthetic recomendations on newer engines has nothing to do with double overhead, those have been around for a long time, its probably more to do with the tighter tolorances and government deadlines on mpg requirments.
if the analysis process is as accurate as a doctors analysis for example.. i wouldn't bet any money on it, they may only be searching for a set criteria and may not find stuff if no one put it on there list to search for it.
when did you become the OP of this thread? and yes i should and will quit the board, its loose loose like a s hit fight with a chimpanzee
EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvxNgdFeWqM
Sorry, wrong again I get 23.5 city, 32-33 hwy, the newer model V6 Malibu only manages 18mpg/city and it has a much better transmission than my obsolete 4-speed. Thing is most people won't care about the difference in MPG, a Honda V6 Accord or Toyota V6 Camry is a full second or more better than my older model in 0-60 times. Simple truth is if you make more power you usually use more fuel, a 4 valve/cylinder double OHC engine "breathes" much better than my older engine can so it uses more fuel. Also pushrod engines tend to give max torque at lower RPM, mine reaches max@ 3K which means it can shift into a higher gear faster, increasing economy.
jolancer... Would be a good idea to keep this thread on track and not let it spiral down with this sort of useless crap... Differences of opinions are fine but off the deep end nonsense is a reserved for a different section...wow cool car. must be some dam government conspiracy, thats why you don't see many of them around anymore, if you put a carburator on it and get a magneto coil, remove the ECU, maybe you could lower your horse power up to 100, put a set of four wheel drum brakes and you'l be getting ~50mpg... oh wait i did the math wrong, (324mi per tank) / (18gal tank) X (3.5L engine) = 63mpg!!!!! dude.... to bad all kids care about these days is speed speed and bath salts... if you do it right your car will be good till what? 01/23/2116 ....right on bro, your great great grand kids will be so lucky when they inherit it, as long as there not obsessed with dam Speed... heroin is where its at right bro
wow cool car. must be some dam government conspiracy, thats why you don't see many of them around anymore, if you put a carburator on it and get a magneto coil, remove the ECU, maybe you could lower your horse power up to 100, put a set of four wheel drum brakes and you'l be getting ~50mpg... oh wait i did the math wrong, (324mi per tank) / (18gal tank) X (3.5L engine) = 63mpg!!!!! dude.... to bad all kids care about these days is speed speed and bath salts... if you do it right your car will be good till what? 01/23/2116 ....right on bro, your great great grand kids will be so lucky when they inherit it, as long as there not obsessed with dam Speed... heroin is where its at right bro
What I've learned from this thread:
Oil not purchased from a reputable auto parts dealer, such as NAPA, jobber-oriented parts wholesalers/retailers, or from new car dealers' parts departments sell oil that's probably "watered down" with vegetable oils---soybean/peanut/corn/canola/whatever.
Advance, Autozone, O'Reilley's, and every other auto parts dealer not mentioned above is not reputable, is not to be trusted in the quality/authenticity of their parts, and are in on this collusion to defraud the consumer.
And I lost untold numbers of brain cells reading some of this drivel.
just my exerpience but what i noticed is the most reliable parts suppliers seem to be those that don't only sell to the public but also supply to the local shops.. so the majority of there buisness is probably from a health client base so they have no need to bullshit there walkin customers. In my region one of the most well known ones is Nu-way
I don't see how anyone could "damage" their vehicle with an oil change unless one forgot to put in the oil and started the engine or somehow stripped the drain plug. Walmart also carries many different brands, if you buy Castrol at Walmart it's the same Castrol as Pep boys or NAPA has. As for the quality see the link posted by Tortoise, turns out Super-tech is decent stuff after all, plenty fine enough for a GM 3.5L V6 which is not exactly the type of engine that will stress an oil very much.. :biggrin:
That may well be true but how it's distributed is irrelevant as to what's in the bottle, I refuse to believe Castrol sold at Walmart is inferior to Castrol sold at Advance auto.
Actually, the Castrol at Wal-Mart says it was bottled exclusively for Wal-mart, at least the 5-quart jugs. I used to always buy Castrol from Wal-Mart. Well one time I was giving both cars an oil change, filled the first car with one jug, then moved on to the second car. For some reason I smelled the bottle and it stunk of sulfur, just like a heavy gear oil. I researched online couldn't find anything about it, tried to call castrol but they were closed, called some O'rielly's who had an open jug and confirmed it didn't stink. I decided I didn't trust it, went andbought some from O'Rielly's that was just fine.
The next day I got a hold of Castrol, and they confirmed my lot had an "odor problem" and that it was 100% contained to oil sold at Wal-Mart. I.e. nobody else would take the oil that didn't meet 100% of all specs, including smell. Wal-Mart, however, was happy to have the discount. Ended up costing my $45 in wasted oil, because I just dumped it all.