Ok lets get this straight please. Is it good to run at 1600x1200 resolution on a 19 inch monitor? Also ....

WyteWatt

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Ok lets get this straight please. Is it good to run at 1600x1200 resolution on a 19 inch monitor? Also whats the min. your refresh rate should be at 1600x1200 if u run you 19 inch montior on 1600x1200 resolution all the time?
 

Ausm

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Depends if the monitor supports it...also if your eyes can handle it


Ausm
 

WyteWatt

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ausm i know but most do support it. So what would be the min. refresh rate to have at that resolution that would be good to the eyes? I heard somewhere its bad to go below 85Hz refresh rate for you eyes. Is that true? I have a feeling in a way it isn't and maybe in one way it is.

 

aceO07

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I have a 17.4" (viewable size) flatpanel display running at 1280x1024. That's only a little smaller viewable size than the 19" monitor. I think my resolution is perfect for me. 1600x1200 might make things too small for me to see.

ausm is right. I just depends on if your monitor supports it and you can see it comfortably. I've gotten used to flat monitors and planels, so I notice flickering more when the refresh rate is below 85hz
 

Biggs

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Pretty simple, my friend, the minimum is the maximum refresh rate for a particular resolution your monitor can handle.
 

WyteWatt

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.paldo thats what i thought not sure why people here asking for 19 inch montiors want to make sure 1600x1200 runs at a certain refresh rate when it will be still hard to read. Does not make sense inless they are talking about 1600x1200 just in gaming? Maybe thats it.

 

gregor7777

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Originally posted by: .paldo
you gotta have eyes of an eagle to run 1600x1200 resolution on a 19" monitor.


/start Intim83's voice

Ok, well lets say I do have implanted eagle eyes and I can notice a flickering on any monitor wth a RR below 195Hz, what should I run then???

/end Intim83's voice



 

Chaotic42

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I run 1600x1200 on my 19" Viewsonic. I was running 1920x1440, but my roomate complained, and the refresh rate was kind of low.

I have 20/13 vision for what it's worth.
 

Fun Guy

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70Hz is the absolute minimum for any resolution on any CRT monitor. 75Hz is better, 85Hz and higher is ideal.

If a monitor does only 60-65Hz at your required resolution, you would be better off shooting yourself in the head (which you would likely do after about four hours in front of it anyway).
 

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Originally posted by: imtim83
Ok lets get this straight please. Is it good to run at 1600x1200 resolution on a 19 inch monitor? Also whats the min. your refresh rate should be at 1600x1200 if u run you 19 inch montior on 1600x1200 resolution all the time?

I have a 21" monitor and run it at 1280x1024. If I run it at 1600 x 1200 then the text is too small, unless you are two inches from the screen, then the radiation turns my hair grey.

I like at least 85 refresh rate at any resolution, higher if possible.

 

Pariah

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If the monitor specs says it can do it, then it won't have a problem, the issue is whether your eyes can take it. I run it on a 19" @ 85Hz and don't have any problems. Keep in mind, the 2D quality of the video card you use is also very important.
 

mastertech01

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I think 1280x960 @ 85HZ or better refresh is ideal for 19inches on a CRT
 

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1600x1200 @ 85Hz was too small on my old P990 Trinitron. I ran 1280x960 and my eyes thanked me for it. For the past couple of years that I have owned my P1110, I run 1600x1200 @ 85Hz and it's just right.
 

glugglug

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Ok, time to dispel the screen readability psychosomatically enforced myth hehe.

I am currently using a 17" monitor (16" viewable). It is running at 1920x1440, 68Hz. (monitor can't handle 70Hz with this resolution unless I make the front porch/back porch timings too small and get ugly edge effects).

I have absolutely no trouble reading it at that resolution. The clarity is not perfect, but that is due to the monitor dot pitch, not the text size. In fact, if the monitor was of higher quality, 16" viewable would be perfectly fine for reading standard fonts at 5000x5000 resolution.

A few facts:

1) Most programs default to 12 point fonts.
2) Newspapers standard print is 10 point.
3) On a 19" monitor, the text is almost exactly the same size it will be printed if you are at 1600x1200. (at 100% zoom in word or other programs)

There is some psychological effect going on that people see on-screen print as smaller than on-paper when they are the same. Probably from looking at the blurryness of old monitors before 0.25-0.28mm dot pitch became the standard or from the crappy quality of TV screens (most of which have a dot pitch above 1mm).

With an 18" viewable area (about like a 19" monitor), in order to display 1600x1200 resolution with no pixels being blurred together, you need 0.228mm or better dot pitch. Chances are (unless its really top notch), the monitor is probably closer to 0.26mm dot pitch, so there will be a bit of blurring, but not too bad.
 

CAMS

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Originally posted by: glugglug
Ok, time to dispel the screen readability psychosomatically enforced myth hehe.

A few facts:

1) Most programs default to 12 point fonts.
2) Newspapers standard print is 10 point.
3) On a 19" monitor, the text is almost exactly the same size it will be printed if you are at 1600x1200. (at 100% zoom in word or other programs)

There is some psychological effect going on that people see on-screen print as smaller than on-paper when they are the same. Probably from looking at the blurryness of old monitors before 0.25-0.28mm dot pitch became the standard or from the crappy quality of TV screens (most of which have a dot pitch above 1mm).

What are you talking about?
I dont know about you but I read text on a page at approx 18", this is comfortable for a lot of people.
There is know way I will sit that close to a monitor, unless I want tan, so I lower the resolution and sit further away.
 

Chau

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i have a 19inch KDS flatscreen monitor and i run it at 1600x1200 @85 hz
 

Elcs

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Ive ran my 14" monitor at 800*600 with 60hz for at least 4 years and Ive never had problems. I recently found that this monitor can do 800*600 at 75hz so I upped it. I personally cant see the difference.
 

Pheran

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IMHO, 1280x960 is the ideal resolution for a 19" monitor (and I use 1024x768 for 17" and 1600x1200 for 21"). By the way, 1280x1024 is evil. I'd like to smack the bonehead who came up with a resolution with a nonstandard aspect ratio.
 

Eug

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Depends a lot also on the hardware.

Most video card and monitor combinations I've seen are terrible at 1600x1200x75. And indeed, most consumer monitors are not even capable of 1600x1200x85. You have to have an upper-mid to high-end monitor. You also have to have a video card with stellar 2D quality, because if you don't it's still gonna look poor even if the monitor is excellent. The older nVidia-based cards were notorious for having unacceptable high-resolution 2D.

P.S. Remember, you can change the font size in Windows if the text seems small, although some software and some websites might look a bit wonky if you use font sizes that are too big.
 

Fun Guy

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Originally posted by: ausm
Depends if the monitor supports it...also if your eyes can handle it

Ausm

The more I read in this thread, the more the wisdom of ausm shines through.
 

kly1222

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I run 1280x1024 on a 22". My vision isn't bad, I just like things big. It really depends on your preference. The only thing that is standard among most people is the refresh rate. Anything below 70Hz is bad, 85Hz+ is good.
 

JellyBaby

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WIth the right software settings you can run at any resolution between 1280 and 1600, if your hardware supports it. Why video drivers don't include a few intermediary settings by default is beyond me.
 

Fun Guy

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Originally posted by: JellyBaby
WIth the right software settings you can run at any resolution between 1280 and 1600, if your hardware supports it. Why video drivers don't include a few intermediary settings by default is beyond me.

Please impart to us where one might find such software and/or applications.

Thank you.
 
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